Ailes Out at Fox? - Page 11

Pearlee · ‎06-11-2011

@Noel7 wrote:
@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@Stray wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@MyGirlsMom wrote:
It's astonishing to me how many women go to such lengths to support a man who has been accused of such conduct.

Bill Cosby and now Roger Ailes.

Each victim has their own reason(s) for not reporting the behavior and we (as women) shouldn't demonize them. Some women have been subjected to this type of behavior for a long while and accept it as, "men, as usual." It's not okay.

In all cases, tell someone, file charges, let an arrest be made and go to court.

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@MyGirlsMom

There are a lot of women who just don't like other women, especially if they have been successful.
@Noel7- I don't believe that. I admire them but it also depends on your definition of "successful". I used successful women in business as my mentors. But, women who are excellent at whatever they chose in life are successful to me. Some very so called "successful women" are dreadful selfish/self centered human beings.
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@Stray

I wasn't talking about you.

Unfortunately, those of us here for a long time have seen continuing attacks on successful women. Not to mention pretty women, moms, the list goes on. It never stops.
It's like there's this very small mold that the attackers think all women should fit into.

Be anything outside of that mold and you're a candidate for attack.

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I agree with you @QueenDanceALot

And most women who are raped or beaten and are in the news are almost always not believed by many women here. In fact, they often become the focus of anger, how dare they claim what they have claimed.

I completely disagree with your statement. In fact, I have no idea how you ever reached that conclusion. @Noel7

chickenbutt · ‎03-09-2010

40 million, eh? I guess it's not hurting him too badly. SMH

Ms X · ‎09-13-2012

@chickenbutt wrote:
40 million, eh? I guess it's not hurting him too badly. SMH

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I don't understand why he and other top executives should get much of anything in situations like this! Gretchen Carlson, who started all this with her sexual-harassment lawsuit, didn't get a dime as far as I know.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@Stray wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@beach-mom wrote:
What would you do if you were a network news anchor/star reporter? Would you just let it go because your career comes first? That's what these women did.

Not me. I would report it as soon as it happened. By not doing so, you are letting your fellow women reporters get put in uneasy positions. And you're letting a man get away with horrible acts. It's not worth it.

So now we have some saying he did; some saying he didn't.

Megyn Kelly seems to me like a person who will do anything to get ahead. Shame on her for not speaking out about this sooner. And Gretchen threw every other successful female anchor there under the bus. By saying SHE didn't give in to him to get ahead, she is insinuating others did. I think there were other reasons she was fired, and she wanted to get back at him. Shame on her for praising him in her book and thanking him for the opportunities he gave her. She could have just left that out.

I don't find either one of them credible, simply because they didn't speak out about it sooner. This is a lot different from a situation in which someone is abused every day and her work situation is intolerable.

So he "resigns" - and Gretchen will be able to say she's the one who brought down Fox News.

She'll land on her feet; he won't. Don't know what will happen to Steve Doocy.
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@beach-mom

Historically, women who report harassment get fired AND they often get banned in the business.

Most DO NOT report because for so long it was the price women paid to get ahead. Remember what Barbara Walters said? She had to sleep her way to the top.

Don't blame women, blame the system because that is often also the case with rape.

@Noel7- that just isn't true....long ago maybe it was true. I did the statistics and handed in stats to our CEO and reported them to the EEOC. Big companies have diversity officers, onbudspeople and teams with members like myself that investigate, are neutral and part of a team handling harrassment/HW....we advise people to report retaliation for launching an inquiry; a person is given a severe reprimand or fired for retaliation and other actions take place protecting employees. There are strong laws protecting people in the workplace and if employees are unaware of them or feel they are being harassed, they are working in the wrong place and giving power to the harassers. Women nor men are hesitant about reporting impropriety.

GC is in the entertainment business and she may be black balled not for accusing Ailes if it is true....but, maybe she is known as being difficult and a mediocre host??? I wouldn't know but their personna and temperament are known around "town" being NYC....because it is a very small town re entertainment. If her reputation precedes her, she may not work or she may be the hottest ticket in town...time will tell...

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@Stray

Stay, it does happen, I have worked with women who were victims. Program or not, it's still something many women have to deal with.

I don't know if FOX has a program, but it certainly seems to have been happening there.

deepwaterdotter · ‎03-09-2010

@chickenbutt wrote:
40 million, eh? I guess it's not hurting him too badly. SMH

Might this be in accordance with a "Golden Parachute" clause in his employment contract?

Pearlee · ‎06-11-2011

People here are so quick to believe anything posted on the net. Here's another article...so don't jump to too many conclusions too quickly. Me? I'm going to wait and see what happens and when.:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/19/report-roger-ailes-getting-golden-parachute.html

libbyannE · ‎10-27-2010

@Pearlee wrote:
@libbyannE wrote:
@JJsMom wrote:
Hmmm ... is it related to Gretchen's allegations?
... And those of other women who came forward. Word last week in news reports was that he would not survive this because there was too much truth to it. Just from a journalism point if view, I would be thrilled to see him gone.
We don't know this. From what that article posted say, the investigation - including talking to current employees - isn't good for Ailes. We don't know why and it could be there's much more to have grievances about at Foxnews than what Carlson has brought up. We don't know why Ailes' days are probably numbered. A good journalist would not be jumping to conclusions.

Without going into details, I have close friends still working in that world. Those working there knew they would lose their jobs if they talked about it.

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@Noel7 wrote:
@Stray wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
@Stray wrote:
@goldensrbest wrote:
Any hope of shutting down fox news?
I hope not because then there would be nothing to trash on the threads except the hosts and LR I guess..
Given the number of supportive posts on this thread, it looks like quite a few posters on this BB are loyal Fox News viewers.
Not really, for me....but I got my law degree later in life. I was a nurse originally and thought in a different way....I like all the facts before I render an opinion now but much like making a diagnosis too. I am looking at the legal case, I handled harassment cases/HW so it is of interest to me. I have seen men and women lodge complaints and some had merit and some did not. It is interesting to me and a bit disconcerting that any savvy woman does not know and use venues available to her. So, for me that plants a seed of doubt....she is disgruntled, that's significant. I don't know Mr Ailes and I have no connection to Fox but do watch it for certain programs. Quite Frankly, I watch the Korean news station here in NJ. It is in English, direct and unbiased.
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Stray, what's missing in your equation is the psychology of fear and the Battered Wife syndrome.

THAT is what hampers women from leaving.

@Noel7- workplace harrassement and battered wife syndrome/rape and the psychology of it all is not the same. It is power and abuse but rarely violent, nor do people get hurt, physically. The fear is not for their lives; they are rarely threatened with bodily harm but fear of losing their livelihoods, embarrassment and it is just d**mn uncomfortable. To be threatened with bodily harm is treated in a whole different way. I started my interest in this field because I was harassed early in my career by my boss, a physician, an officer and friend of the CEO....I didn't know why...I was a nurse, worked hard and had a good reputation at the Company, I was very hesitant to report him until my friend, Assistant to the Chief Diversity Officer advised me of my rights/venues....that was in the 90s ....education in companies re the subject is important enough to be instilled at orientation, yearly seminars, posted online and every public venue. The process was not comfortable but it was fair, I wasn't retaliated against and went on to a very successful career....the Company paid for multiple degrees, one of which was JD and Masters/ Ph.D in counseling.....I became an officer and because I walked the walked I was picked for this team and you learn a lot about people in this process.

I was also stalked for many years by a guy from a relationship, also a doctor until he died in 2000 at a pretty young age Thank you God.....

so I do understand from various prospectives and tho I hated what I went through I have a clearer understanding as to what people feel and how it is crippling, unfair and dominates your life. But, I also learned not to judge people when I don't have the facts, that people do lie for revenge, publicity and monetary gain so I like to weigh all facts. By my own history, I should hate physicians I guess but I judge people by facts I know about them and that conjecture can be harmful

I don't feel any woman should be abused/harassed or disrespected in this lifetime never mind at work. An abused women is brave to act and report her abuser no matter who they are....but, to not report such activity gives them (abuser) all the power....in today's world there is help for people in the workplace but it's not so easy for the abused wife and her children as they have to give up so much and suffer terrible heartache and often physical pain

i would never compare GC's case and its relevance against an abused wife and fear for her child(ren).....it does them a disservice ....it isn't the same and far worse

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@Noel7- sorry.....this is a subject I am passionate about....I thought you meant me

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@momtochloe- I know I saw some pretty outlandish complaints against women. I think many high performing women feel a certain entitlement because of gender and that harassment was only pertinent to men as being the offender .....but, the law protects everyone and the women were shocked that their behavior was inappropriate and that they were reported. There is a certain competition that exists between women but more about attractiveness, age, clothes, demeanor of another women....for men, there is competition but different.