Re: AUTISM: New Discoveries, Genetic Connections &... - Page 3

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@hyacinth003 wrote:
I DO have a child with autism, so I figure I am entitled to an opinion. I personally do not believe vaccinations cause autism. I believe science has debunked this.

When I look back, my daughter showed signs from infancy, before vaccinations. She was breast fed, so she was "all natural" even showing things I later felt were related to autism. I had difficulty feeling bonded. She pulled away from me and never showed the preference for me over others (like strangers). She was hyperactive even as an infant. She didn't want to be cuddled, only climbed me.

I believe there is a form of autism that presents itself as a sudden loss of development, even regressing. I believe it occurs around age 2 or so. So it could coincide with vaccinations but not be related. Perhaps there is a tiny subset of children that react to it, just like any other drug.

It certainly would be nice to have as much information as possible.

Hyacinth

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@hyacinth003

Thank you for sharing your story. I've read your posts over the years and I know you are a very special caring mother.

LTT1 · ‎03-09-2010

@Noel7

Thank you for the link. It is heartening to me that Autism is being researched.

Two of my students with autism made exceptionally deep impressions with me.

There was a brother and an older sister -- I taught them both.

The brother tried to reach out for help on his math problems. That was a major action for him -- an outward expression of something needed.

I felt I "got" him.

And I communicated this verbally to him.

There must be very deep emotions buried in people with autism... their families suffer so much right along with them.

~Have a Kind Heart, Fierce Mind, Brave Spirit~

chrystaltree · ‎05-10-2010

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Noel7

Thanks for posting this. I hope this gets a lot of press .... and the ridiculous insistance that vaccinations cause autism will subside. Kids need to be vaccinated! JMO

That was debunked years ago and it really was only one guy who was saying it. He made millions from his books and seminars and always knew it was a big lie. He victimized desperate parents.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@chrystaltree wrote:
It's good that the reseach is ongoing. But there is no good news in this report. None at all. I say that because if it is true that each individual has their own genetic "recipe" that caused the autism and many, many separte genes were involved....omg....the magnitude of a cure is too large to calculate. It's not one disease, it's one separate disease for each individual who has it. Granted, they are treating many disease with gene specific drugs now and it seems like that will be the route they take with autism. But it's not going to be any time soon. That was my take on the article anyway.

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@chrystaltree

I think there is good news, the possibility that some of the genetic mutations could be treated with medication.

So much of what is being found out about various disorders and illnesses is about genetics and the possibility of gene treatment.

chrystaltree · ‎05-10-2010

@Noel7 wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:
It's good that the reseach is ongoing. But there is no good news in this report. None at all. I say that because if it is true that each individual has their own genetic "recipe" that caused the autism and many, many separte genes were involved....omg....the magnitude of a cure is too large to calculate. It's not one disease, it's one separate disease for each individual who has it. Granted, they are treating many disease with gene specific drugs now and it seems like that will be the route they take with autism. But it's not going to be any time soon. That was my take on the article anyway.
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@chrystaltree

I think there is good news, the possibility that some of the genetic mutations could be treated with medication.

So much of what is being found out about various disorders and illnesses is about genetics and the possibility of gene treatment.

My point was that it might be "good news" for gene targete treatment way dow the line. Since this just a study and only gives the opinions of the study participants, it doesn't offer any "good news" to anyone who has or has a child with autism today. Another study could come out next week that says something entirely different. That's the nature of reseach studies.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@chrystaltree wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:
It's good that the reseach is ongoing. But there is no good news in this report. None at all. I say that because if it is true that each individual has their own genetic "recipe" that caused the autism and many, many separte genes were involved....omg....the magnitude of a cure is too large to calculate. It's not one disease, it's one separate disease for each individual who has it. Granted, they are treating many disease with gene specific drugs now and it seems like that will be the route they take with autism. But it's not going to be any time soon. That was my take on the article anyway.
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@chrystaltree

I think there is good news, the possibility that some of the genetic mutations could be treated with medication.

So much of what is being found out about various disorders and illnesses is about genetics and the possibility of gene treatment.

My point was that it might be "good news" for gene targete treatment way dow the line. Since this just a study and only gives the opinions of the study participants, it doesn't offer any "good news" to anyone who has or has a child with autism today. Another study could come out next week that says something entirely different. That's the nature of reseach studies.

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@chrystaltree

It wasn't only the opinion of study participants in one study. It was also reported by other studies, I looked at a cluster and I reported on three studies.

Usually new treatments do take time to go into effect but that time is getting shorter in many cases recently.

blackhole99 · ‎08-22-2013

My husband worked with a guy who has 3 sons and they all have varying degrees of autism. I can't imagine if they thought vaccines were causing this that they would have their kids vaccinated, but he never said.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@blackhole99 wrote:
My husband worked with a guy who has 3 sons and they all have varying degrees of autism. I can't imagine if they thought vaccines were causing this that they would have their kids vaccinated, but he never said.

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That's interesting, thanks @blackhole99

It was also reported that some family members who carried the gene mutations were NOT on the spectrum, which imo brings up the possibility that the genes weren't triggered or something along those lines.

Lila Belle · ‎01-24-2013

@Noel7 wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:
It's good that the reseach is ongoing. But there is no good news in this report. None at all. I say that because if it is true that each individual has their own genetic "recipe" that caused the autism and many, many separte genes were involved....omg....the magnitude of a cure is too large to calculate. It's not one disease, it's one separate disease for each individual who has it. Granted, they are treating many disease with gene specific drugs now and it seems like that will be the route they take with autism. But it's not going to be any time soon. That was my take on the article anyway.
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@chrystaltree

I think there is good news, the possibility that some of the genetic mutations could be treated with medication.

So much of what is being found out about various disorders and illnesses is about genetics and the possibility of gene treatment.

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Gene treatment and personalized medical treatment was being studied by the previous administration. I wonder if this is still going on? i sure hope so!

roxxy1 · ‎11-12-2016

@hyacinth003 wrote:
I DO have a child with autism, so I figure I am entitled to an opinion. I personally do not believe vaccinations cause autism. I believe science has debunked this.

When I look back, my daughter showed signs from infancy, before vaccinations. She was breast fed, so she was "all natural" even showing things I later felt were related to autism. I had difficulty feeling bonded. She pulled away from me and never showed the preference for me over others (like strangers). She was hyperactive even as an infant. She didn't want to be cuddled, only climbed me.

I believe there is a form of autism that presents itself as a sudden loss of development, even regressing. I believe it occurs around age 2 or so. So it could coincide with vaccinations but not be related. Perhaps there is a tiny subset of children that react to it, just like any other drug.

It certainly would be nice to have as much information as possible.

Hyacinth

@hyacinth003 Hi. I also have an adult child with autism. He is 27. I call him my forever child.

I truly believe it is a combination of environment and genetic predisposition, and has nothing to do at all with vaccines. I live in NJ with the highest rate of autism. All the chemical fertilizers used years ago in our "Garden State", seeping into the water and soil, has adversly affected our children. My thoughts are, genetics loaded the gun, and the environment pulled the trigger.

Best wishes to you and your family.

Roxxy~~~~