“AS WE AGE….” - Page 3

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@SportyShorty07 wrote:
@CaliGold67 wrote:
@SportyShorty07 wrote:
@CaliGold67 wrote:
I haven't seen this same "anti-aging" marketing push for Aging Men (well, gray hair & the V pill).
@CaliGold67 That's a really great point! I see commercials for Old Spice 3 in 1 bodywash, razors, and Cialis for men on tv. I see so many anti aging commercials for women on tv. Why is all of the pressure put on women to fight our skin aging while men are encouraged to just let nature take it's course? I want to see anti aging commercials for men on TV and in magazines
Thank you for getting the point I was trying to make! As always - women are being treated differently but in a very subtle way. It's NOT equitable.
@CaliGold67 I agree! The pressure for women to look younger is immense on TV, online and print ads. I don't see any of this fear mongering about aging in advertisements directed towards men. QVC hosts scrutinize the "before photo" of an older woman's beautiful and natural face and mention nasal labial folds, fine lines, hyperpigmentation etc. The pressure to optimize, soften, blur, firm, smooth, brighten, exfoliate etc is very apparent. Men and Hollywood actors are allowed to "just be" and are applauded for looking weathered or "seasoned" in old age whereas all of the pressure to defy or lessen the natural process of aging is put on women. It's not equitable.

@SportyShorty07 Women are the ones putting pressure on older women and on themselves. You can't blame anyone else. Just read these boards and see what women do to pick apart other women.

SportyShorty07 · ‎04-15-2014

@Sooner I haven't seen women pick apart other women on these boards too much, but maybe the moderators delete the posts before I can see them. Its a shame that that's happening on the forums.

ajsidney12 · ‎02-10-2013

@SportyShorty07 But hasn 't it always been like this, since the invention of the first "beauty cream"? I am going to guess at least 100 yrs ago or so, someone marketed the first wonder cream to women to keep you looking youthful. Body cream, eye cream, bust cream, foot creams, makeup, hair dye, etc., if we buy into it, they will continue to make it.

I believe some men use a little skin care here and there for dry skin or cleansing, but overall we as women are continuing to pay for these items, thus the business rages on. It really is our own fault for not believing in our own natural beauty and trying to be something like Josie Maran who was a very high profile model in the 90's, but we will never look like just by using Argan oil. Btw I use the body butter and love it, so it is not an attack on her but I hate my dry legs. Maybe men don't, generally speaking, care if they have dry legs?

Do I want to resist more skin damage than I already have from growing up with barely putting spf on playing outdoor sports my whole (younger) life and wear it every single day now. Yes I do. I don't know that men are wearing it on their faces every day, on average. And most men I know barely put it on at the ocean or pool.

The thing that is truly upsetting is social media pushing skin care to as young as 7 year old girls. This is what has happened to us as girls and women, that "they" are now trying to convince little kids there is something wrong with their beautiful skin. It makes me ill the advantage they are taking of people and they can be potentially damaging the kids skin because they think they need retinol or lactic acid at 10 yrs old. Gross.

bargainsgirl · ‎01-13-2012

@CaliGold67 wrote:
@rms1954 wrote:
@CaliGold67 wrote:
I believe I've been aging since I was a baby. The reminders I'm hearing on QVC TV are coming fast & furious. YES - I know I'm aging but do I have to hear the actual words every 2 minutes as I watch Josie Maran (potentially to order items)?

"Wrinkles - Dry - Gray - 50+ - Loose - Menopause - Look Older - Extra Hydrating - Lines - Grandkids - Changes - Crepey - More Lines & Wrinkles - Folds - Dried Out - More Wrinkles - Lack of Sleep - Anti-Aging". OY.

We Get It. I LOVE most of Josie's products but she's really piling on the "old" terms. I don't think she, or Amy, is even 50 years old.

I haven't seen this same "anti-aging" marketing push for Aging Men (well, gray hair & the V pill).
Aren't we all, aging that is. You don't have to hear it if you choose to watch something else or mute it.

You missed my point.

I understood your point and I completely agree with you. Yes we all can choose to watch or not but the point is why keep harping and degrading a natural occurance. Aging gracefully is a novel concept for some I suppose.

bargainsgirl · ‎01-13-2012

@CelticCrafter wrote:
No one is forcing you to buy any of it, no one is forcing you to leave the channel where it is, change it if you aren't liking what you see.

I think she realzed that......

SportyShorty07 · ‎04-15-2014

@ajsidney12 wrote:
@SportyShorty07 But hasn 't it always been like this, since the invention of the first "beauty cream"? I am going to guess at least 100 yrs ago or so, someone marketed the first wonder cream to women to keep you looking youthful. Body cream, eye cream, bust cream, foot creams, makeup, hair dye, etc., if we buy into it, they will continue to make it.

I believe some men use a little skin care here and there for dry skin or cleansing, but overall we as women are continuing to pay for these items, thus the business rages on. It really is our own fault for not believing in our own natural beauty and trying to be something like Josie Maran who was a very high profile model in the 90's, but we will never look like just by using Argan oil. Btw I use the body butter and love it, so it is not an attack on her but I hate my dry legs. Maybe men don't, generally speaking, care if they have dry legs?

Do I want to resist more skin damage than I already have from growing up with barely putting spf on playing outdoor sports my whole (younger) life and wear it every single day now. Yes I do. I don't know that men are wearing it on their faces every day, on average. And most men I know barely put it on at the ocean or pool.

The thing that is truly upsetting is social media pushing skin care to as young as 7 year old girls. This is what has happened to us as girls and women, that "they" are now trying to convince little kids there is something wrong with their beautiful skin. It makes me ill the advantage they are taking of people and they can be potentially damaging the kids skin because they think they need retinol or lactic acid at 10 yrs old. Gross.

@ajsidney12 Excellent points! You are so right- if we buy into it, the beauty companies will continue to make it. The majority of men might moisturize if their skin feels dry or put on sunscreen if they're going on a boat or to a theme park, but I wish that men could know how much pressure there is to cover all of the bases in beauty products. We really should honor and appreciate our natural beauty. Josie Maran is very pretty and her body butter is fantastic! I use Nivea body lotion on my legs.

I didn't start using sunscreen everyday until my late 20's, but I use it every day now. The men I've dated have never worn sunscreen unless they were going to a theme park or a beach. I completely agree about the scary trend of influencers pushing kids to use harsh retinoids, acids, and anti aging skincare- what do elementary schoolers even need a skincare routine for ? Kids shouldn't worry about their skin. Parents need to draw the line and not purchase unnecessary skincare for their kids.

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@SportyShorty07 wrote:
@Sooner I haven't seen women pick apart other women on these boards too much, but maybe the moderators delete the posts before I can see them. Its a shame that that's happening on the forums.

@SportyShorty07 Read the Pam Anderson discussion. She looks OLD--Gasp!!!! Women are picked apart all the time. Not so much pictures of posters, but women in general. Looking older is horrifying to many women.

ALRATIBA · ‎07-15-2016

I'm waaaay past 50, and perfectly satisfied what I look like. Most of my friends are around my age and we all look great. No magic elixirs!

We were talking about that recently and tend to think that since we all worked in Corporate fields until our late 60s ... we had to dress well, be well-groomed, etc., etc.

We also were (and are still) socially active - church functions, women's groups, etc.

When we retired we basically continued our dress/grooming routines, and our social lives.

SportyShorty07 · ‎04-15-2014

@Sooner wrote:
@SportyShorty07 wrote:
@Sooner I haven't seen women pick apart other women on these boards too much, but maybe the moderators delete the posts before I can see them. Its a shame that that's happening on the forums.
@SportyShorty07 Read the Pam Anderson discussion. She looks OLD--Gasp!!!! Women are picked apart all the time. Not so much pictures of posters, but women in general. Looking older is horrifying to many women.

@Sooner I think that Pamela Anderson looks fantastic! I love her makeup free face and she has such glowing skin. Nobody looks the same as they did when they were young and that's ok- faces are meant to change and age and aging is totally natural and beautiful. Did you see the movie "The Substance"? I saw it opening night in theaters and it really tackled the ridiculous pressures women are under to feel and look as young as they can- I will never forget that movie and I think I'll see it again in theaters! The movie was provocative, daring, darkly funny, and so so twisted.

JoyFilled Warrior · ‎09-02-2022

@Sooner wrote:
@SportyShorty07 wrote:
@CaliGold67 wrote:
@SportyShorty07 wrote:
@CaliGold67 wrote:
I haven't seen this same "anti-aging" marketing push for Aging Men (well, gray hair & the V pill).
@CaliGold67 That's a really great point! I see commercials for Old Spice 3 in 1 bodywash, razors, and Cialis for men on tv. I see so many anti aging commercials for women on tv. Why is all of the pressure put on women to fight our skin aging while men are encouraged to just let nature take it's course? I want to see anti aging commercials for men on TV and in magazines
Thank you for getting the point I was trying to make! As always - women are being treated differently but in a very subtle way. It's NOT equitable.
@CaliGold67 I agree! The pressure for women to look younger is immense on TV, online and print ads. I don't see any of this fear mongering about aging in advertisements directed towards men. QVC hosts scrutinize the "before photo" of an older woman's beautiful and natural face and mention nasal labial folds, fine lines, hyperpigmentation etc. The pressure to optimize, soften, blur, firm, smooth, brighten, exfoliate etc is very apparent. Men and Hollywood actors are allowed to "just be" and are applauded for looking weathered or "seasoned" in old age whereas all of the pressure to defy or lessen the natural process of aging is put on women. It's not equitable.
@SportyShorty07 Women are the ones putting pressure on older women and on themselves. You can't blame anyone else. Just read these boards and see what women do to pick apart other women.

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Hi @SportyShorty07 and this very thing, breaks my ever-luv'n heart! Esp as a woman who broke thru many of those glass ceilings, for myself, & same others.

But, as they say:

"~Women are natural enemies of one another."

In my own la-la land, I so wish this isnt/wasnt true.

"Don’t forget to be kind to strangers, for some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it!" TLB