A good barometer for going out... - Page 2

Porcelain · ‎02-19-2014

Going out to do what? Sit at a coffee shop with a mask on? Boogie down at a socially distanced night club? Try on clothes? All these activities have changed fundamentally. They are fun to do in good times. But with a deadly or debilitating virus as a possible cost of participation, the value proposition is completely changed.

I mean if there were a sign on the door at a coffee shop saying "Enter at your own risk. There's a 5-20% chance you may end up dead, permanently asthmatic, or kill your elderly family members if you come in here and another customer or one of our employees makes a safety mistake. And you'll be on your own and we won't consider ourselves responsible. 50% off croissants. Have a nice day--I would turn right around and go to a sparsesly populated park.

I'm just interested in getting together with certain other people again. And I think the OP's recommendation is a really good one for that.

When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
"Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@Porcelain wrote:
Going out to do what? Sit at a coffee shop with a mask on? Boogie down at a socially distanced night club? Try on clothes? All these activities have changed fundamentally. They are fun to do in good times. But with a deadly or debilitating virus as a possible cost of participation, the value proposition is completely changed.

I mean if there were a sign on the door at a coffee shop saying "Enter at your own risk. There's a 5-20% chance you may end up dead, permanently asthmatic, or kill your elderly family members if you come in here and another customer or one of our employees makes a safety mistake. And you'll be on your own and we won't consider ourselves responsible. 50% off croissants. Have a nice day--I would turn right around and go to a sparsesly populated park.

I'm just interested in getting together with certain other people again. And I think the OP's recommendation is a really good one for that.

Much Drama, Stay at home if you are not comfortable, stay safe. Other may choose to actually live the life given.

Someday, when scientists discover the center of the Universe....some people will be disappointed it is not them.

Porcelain · ‎02-19-2014

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@Porcelain wrote:
Going out to do what? Sit at a coffee shop with a mask on? Boogie down at a socially distanced night club? Try on clothes? All these activities have changed fundamentally. They are fun to do in good times. But with a deadly or debilitating virus as a possible cost of participation, the value proposition is completely changed.

I mean if there were a sign on the door at a coffee shop saying "Enter at your own risk. There's a 5-20% chance you may end up dead, permanently asthmatic, or kill your elderly family members if you come in here and another customer or one of our employees makes a safety mistake. And you'll be on your own and we won't consider ourselves responsible. 50% off croissants. Have a nice day--I would turn right around and go to a sparsesly populated park.

I'm just interested in getting together with certain other people again. And I think the OP's recommendation is a really good one for that.
Much Drama, Stay at home if you are not comfortable, stay safe. Other may choose to actually live the life given.

Are you getting your hair done this week? What are your big re-opening plans? From your many responses I gather you are very comfortable living your life exactly the way you did in 2019. You must be really excited and happy and I am very pleased for you.

When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
"Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

homedecor1 · ‎03-09-2010

@SeaMaiden

My DIL is one of the most sought out tattoo artists in her area. Like you she has customers who have called her & now booked right now thru September - she can't wait to get back to work.

In the meantime, she's a beautiful artist and has been doing original artwork for sale.

Hooefully, by June 1 they'll reopen all salons, tattoo places, nail salons 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Boehm Collector · ‎03-09-2010

My brother is a physician and his sister-in-law is an infectious disease specialist. I will go by their recommendations. My brother's sister-in-law recommended social distancing long before it was imposed on us.

SeaMaiden · ‎03-10-2010

@homedecor1 wrote:
@SeaMaiden

My DIL is one of the most sought out tattoo artists in her area. Like you she has customers who have called her & now booked right now thru September - she can't wait to get back to work.

In the meantime, she's a beautiful artist and has been doing original artwork for sale.

Hooefully, by June 1 they'll reopen all salons, tattoo places, nail salons 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

@homedecor1 I was being facetious in my post.... I think it is a bad bad idea.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@Porcelain

Everyone will have a choice at some point, how and what they choose to do is up to them.

Not sure where you came up with the "5-20%" figures, maybe they are a number you randomly chose to put in your post. Those numbers are nowhere even close to the actual stats being given, by state and even by city, to actual virus numbers.

Those percentage(%) numbers are the only reason for this reply. Like my good friend @MamaWick the OP, I agree with her opening post.

hckynut(john)

Porcelain · ‎02-19-2014

@hckynut wrote:
@Porcelain

Everyone has will have a choice at some point, how and what they choose to do is up to them.

Not sure where you came up with the "5-20%" figures, maybe they are a number you randomly chose to put in your post. Those numbers are nowhere even close to the actual stats being given, by state and even by city, to actual virus numbers.

Those percentage(%) numbers are the only reason for this reply. Like my good friend @MamaWick the OP, I agree with her opening post.

hckynut(john)

5% mortality 20% hospitalization. Not cut and dried by any means. I'm not going to debate about numbers and percentages. They can slice in many directions. I get enough of that with my dad, God love him.

For me even .25% chance of any of that -- even just a slight chance of 2 weeks of barely being able to breathe or move around at home and the gigantic bother of upending my life in order to avoid infecting my husband -- would keep me out of a coffee shop. That's all based on a situatione where a worker at a coffee shop or another customer made a safety mistake while I was there and they infected me.

It's not a general chance every time you go out the door. It's based on the very real and possible misfortune of bumping into an unaware infected person who makes a mistake. And right now there's no way of identifying such people.

When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
"Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

Boehm Collector · ‎03-09-2010

@hckynut and @Porcelain .. I don't know where those percentages came from either. But if you consider that there are 1,079,894 confirmed cases in the US with 62,672 deaths that amounts to 5.80% of those infected have passed away. In my town there are 436 confirmed case with 20 deaths..... that amounts to 4.59%. And if you take into account that there may be many people who have it but are asymptomatic .. the percentages are even lower.