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[Suziepeach]

@chickenbutt, it was just as well you didn't see it all.  The more I watched, the more aggravated I felt at them for him getting to this point & being so darn helpless.   I am hoping down the line they'll open their eyes & he'll get his life back.

[chickenbutt]

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Smoky wrote:

@chickenbutt, it was just as well you didn't see it all.  The more I watched, the more aggravated I felt at them for him getting to this point & being so darn helpless.   I am hoping down the line they'll open their eyes & he'll get his life back.

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I tend to look at things from an analytical POV, as I'm not an emotional thinker.    It always shocks me that one can gain hundreds of pounds without it being problematic.

I once gained 30# and, I'll admit, it seemed like it happened overnight.  But at that point, my clothes didn't fit well at all and at some point it clicked it 'what happened here?'.   I had to get on the ball.

But there is no way to not notice when the clothes you have, you can no longer even put them on and then you have to buy bigger and bigger clothes.  Then you have to find alternate ways to even find clothes to fit.  At what point does something kick in?  I guess that's the big question.  For every person it's a different point - if at all - and based on something psychological that blocks the reality you are living.

That's obviously pretty simplistic, but I think it's the key here.

Right now I could stand to lose 15 pounds.  But, unfortunately, some other health challenges preclude me from being able to do hard enough exercise to kick that off.   I do what I can but I am a lot less active than other, due to some parts of my situation now.  I think that if it were much worse I would not be able to stand it.  Maybe it's all that being told how worthless, stupid, and ugly, etc, I am that makes me so hard on myself.  Who knows!  We are all so very different. 

But I just don't think it would be that difficult to get to what is causing somebody to gain hundreds of pounds.  I think the hard part is getting that person, SOMETIMES, to want to help themselves.  It's like anything else - you have to want it enough to do what you need to do to make it happen.  

[Suziepeach]

@chickenbutt, I sure understand what you're saying, lots more than you'll ever know, my friend.  It's taken me years to get to this point in my life and it sure as hail wasn't an easy journey at times.  Not until I took control of me!!  James is going to have to take control of hisself, no one else can do that.... he's the one in that bed, miserable and complaining about the pain.. Well then do something about it!!!! 

I have weight issues myself and watching him, well, it put mine into a different prospective- makes me want to work harder for ME.. 

[chickenbutt]

Yeah, that's one of the good things I guess - it can inspire you to do more.

Do you remember those shows (not the hoarder shows - but still!) about the people with filthy houses and these ladies went in and cleaned them up?  It was a while back.

Anyway, and even so with the hoarder shows, I'll tell you what!  It made me get up from the tv and start cleaning.  I don't live in a pig pen or anything close, but just watching that made even clean stuff that was already clean!  HA!  

[Mmsfoxxie]

Thanks, @missy1 for the very interesting link.  I stayed on there for about an hour!  I didn't see the James we're discussing on here, though.  Was he on there?  I did see another James, one without a beard.

[Suziepeach]

@chickenbutt, yes I saw that show too..  Yuck on how nasty people live.  Made me more aware too, LOL.

[febe1]

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@chickenbutt wrote:

Well, here's a question I never thought I'd ask but - was he just krapping in the bed, as he lie there, and that was the extent of what they had to clean up?    

It was never clear to me, as I watched, but I also didn't see any evidence that he was 'going' in any other manner.  I know he had a catheter for urination but didn't see how he managed for elimination.

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All I saw was that padded square beneath him, @chickenbutt. But I can't believe they would be that ignorant they wouldn't have a "pot." Afterall, the man isn't in a coma....

[febe1]

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@chickenbutt wrote:

Yeah, that's one of the good things I guess - it can inspire you to do more.

Do you remember those shows (not the hoarder shows - but still!) about the people with filthy houses and these ladies went in and cleaned them up?  It was a while back.

Anyway, and even so with the hoarder shows, I'll tell you what!  It made me get up from the tv and start cleaning.  I don't live in a pig pen or anything close, but just watching that made even clean stuff that was already clean!  HA!  

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Same here, @chickenbutt: I watch the hoarders and purge my closet and call the charity for pick up. It really is inspirational.

I find the most interesting the animal hoarders. OMG, those shows are unbelievable!

Wanted to mention about the 600# show & your questioning why they don't stop eating sooner. I think they're just like alcoholics in that they have to hit rock bottom before they can begin. And even then, some are just accepting to die b/c they can't stop eating.

Like hoarding, it's all a sickness. But IMO, both really really need tough love. I could never be an enabler. Once a loved one of mine stayed in bed, I would kick his butt right out of there! Sorry, that's it....

[chickenbutt]

Hi Taja!  I hear everything you're saying.  

My cut off has to be when bad things are happening to animals!  I cannot bear seeing or hearing about it because it breaks me into a million little pieces.   

I know some people are intolerant about people like me who tend to be more sensitive to the peril of animals, sometimes, than humans.  I'm not saying I don't care about humans as I do and will feel appropriately to so many things.  But with animals - that is what just brings me down.  They are so innocent and have no choices at all.

If I'm watching a show like Hoarders or something where it gets to animal abuse I either have to FF through that part or delete it entirely.

I watch a lot of true crime and when I hear 'the victim got a puppy...' oh dear, I'm OUT of there right now.   I just know the bad guy is going to do something horrible that I won't be able to take.  *click-delete*  

[nomless]

Really, it's usually not about the food. The extreme overeating is usually a symptom of an underlying emotional disorder that often has its roots in some kind of abuse or neglect (real or perceived) during childhood. Food became a comfort when other things were lacking. Until the individual comes to terms with those issues, it's very difficult put food aside and get on with life. It's so sad.