60 minute segment on Social Security - Page 8

reese2 · ‎03-10-2010

On 3/16/2015 hckynut said: Any person(adult)that has NEVER worked should not receive anyone's SS benefits, deceased spouse or otherwise. If you did not "haul any water" you should not be allowed tom"drink from the trough", PERIOD! That is why the SS safe is filled with nothing but IOU' s.

My great-grandmother never "worked" a day in her life. All she did was raise five children, keep it all going while my grandfather worked away from home most of the time on a river barge, kept house, farm and anything else that needed to be done.

Oh, and then when my mom was eleven, her mother died a few months after giving birth do her 5th child. Guess what that crazy great-grandmother of mine did? She took in her daughter's oldest four children, the oldest of which was only a few years younger than her own change of life baby, and she raised them with her youngest son! Can you imagine? What fun she must have had her entire life!

That woman certainly did not deserve to feed at any trough! She was a slacker for sure!

adelle38 · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/16/2015 JustJazzmom said:
On 3/16/2015 adelle38 said:
On 3/16/2015 hckynut said: Any person(adult)that has NEVER worked should not receive anyone's SS benefits, deceased spouse or otherwise. If you did not "haul any water" you should not be allowed tom"drink from the trough", PERIOD! That is why the SS safe is filled with nothing but IOU' s.

When SS began it was rare for women to work outside the home and men usually died first so the "widow's pension" was understandable. I think it's time to phase that out except in the case of widow's with young children. As to divorced spouses(any number of them) receiving spousal SS benefits, I think that's ridiculous.

Let's extrapolate and not allow big CEO's to get their SS benefits too! After all they made tons of money when they were employed!! ${#emotions_dlg.laugh}$

Divorced, unremarried spouses should receive their spouse's SS benefits.

I hope you are never divorced and determine what you have to pay this month-- food or utility bills? For many divorced spouses, SS benefits are a necessity in their lives.

I am divorced and I do have to do that. Individuals need to plan ahead so that they aren't relying on someone else's income for support.

It's always a victory for me when I remember why I entered a room.

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

The biggest problem is that Social Security has been used to pay other things in the government's budget-- not just elderly people who put into the system when they worked.

The problem that is happening now is that there are less people putting money into the system (young adults and adults who are full time employed) so there will be less money to go around for when these people retire and get their SS benefits.

Reduced birth rates will eventually be a detriment to this SS system and of course people are living longer-- than 65 years of age -- people when this program was instituted didn't live for the most part beyond 70.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

adelle38 · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/16/2015 Marienkaefer2 said:
On 3/16/2015 adelle38 said:
On 3/16/2015 hckynut said: Any person(adult)that has NEVER worked should not receive anyone's SS benefits, deceased spouse or otherwise. If you did not "haul any water" you should not be allowed tom"drink from the trough", PERIOD! That is why the SS safe is filled with nothing but IOU' s.

When SS began it was rare for women to work outside the home and men usually died first so the "widow's pension" was understandable. I think it's time to phase that out except in the case of widow's with young children. As to divorced spouses(any number of them) receiving spousal SS benefits, I think that's ridiculous.

No it's not ridiculous. My aunt was married for 35 years and worked her tush off during that marriage, raising a family, maintaining the home, everything. Through no wish of her own she was divorced at 60. You're not going to tell ME or anyone else in those shoes that she does NOT deserve to collect on the ss that her husband earned during those years, especially as it was little enough that she got out of the divorce to help support herself at that age anyway. . Sorry, but you're WRONG. Geez is this 1915 or 2015 with these attitudes. Talk about devaluing women.

Actually, you're the one with the "1915 attitude." I said widows benefits were necessary when SS began but times have changed and women need to take care of their own financial planning.

It's always a victory for me when I remember why I entered a room.

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/16/2015 adelle38 said:
On 3/16/2015 JustJazzmom said:
On 3/16/2015 adelle38 said:
On 3/16/2015 hckynut said: Any person(adult)that has NEVER worked should not receive anyone's SS benefits, deceased spouse or otherwise. If you did not "haul any water" you should not be allowed tom"drink from the trough", PERIOD! That is why the SS safe is filled with nothing but IOU' s.

When SS began it was rare for women to work outside the home and men usually died first so the "widow's pension" was understandable. I think it's time to phase that out except in the case of widow's with young children. As to divorced spouses(any number of them) receiving spousal SS benefits, I think that's ridiculous.

Let's extrapolate and not allow big CEO's to get their SS benefits too! After all they made tons of money when they were employed!! ${#emotions_dlg.laugh}$

Divorced, unremarried spouses should receive their spouse's SS benefits.

I hope you are never divorced and determine what you have to pay this month-- food or utility bills? For many divorced spouses, SS benefits are a necessity in their lives.

I am divorced and I do have to do that. Individuals need to plan ahead so that they aren't relying on someone else's income for support.

This is true now because SS was never meant to be just the only income to live on. Nowadays people have IRAs and investments to supplement their retirement SS income.

Corporate America has gotten rid of many of their defined benefit plans and people now have to look into other means of saving for the future.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

chickenbutt · ‎03-09-2010

How did this get from a woman who was illegally collecting her dead mother's disability to wives collecting SS from their ex husbands?

Isn't that two entirely different things? Maybe if he would, for once, read the OP and the other posts in the thread he wouldn't be so confused. Good grief!

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

On 3/16/2015 JustJazzmom said:
The biggest problem is that Social Security has been used to pay other things in the government's budget-- not just elderly people who put into the system when they worked.

The problem that is happening now is that there are less people putting money into the system (young adults and adults who are full time employed) so there will be less money to go around for when these people retire and get their SS benefits.

Reduced birth rates will eventually be a detriment to this SS system and of course people are living longer-- than 65 years of age -- people when this program was instituted didn't live for the most part beyond 70.

If they just raised the cap on income taxed for SS benefits - from the $110,000 or so currently taxed to $180,000 or even $200,000 - there would be NO PROBLEM paying future retirees. No problem at all.

Mj12 · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/16/2015 reese2 said:
On 3/16/2015 hckynut said: Any person(adult)that has NEVER worked should not receive anyone's SS benefits, deceased spouse or otherwise. If you did not "haul any water" you should not be allowed tom"drink from the trough", PERIOD! That is why the SS safe is filled with nothing but IOU' s.

My great-grandmother never "worked" a day in her life. All she did was raise five children, keep it all going while my grandfather worked away from home most of the time on a river barge, kept house, farm and anything else that needed to be done.

Oh, and then when my mom was eleven, her mother died a few months after giving birth do her 5th child. Guess what that crazy great-grandmother of mine did? She took in her daughter's oldest four children, the oldest of which was only a few years younger than her own change of life baby, and she raised them with her youngest son! Can you imagine? What fun she must have had her entire life!

That woman certainly did not deserve to feed at any trough! She was a slacker for sure!

${#emotions_dlg.thumbup1}$

sophiamarie · ‎08-08-2013

This is O/T but in the same segment last night, they talked about people who were declared DEAD when they were alive and well. When that happens, you can't access your bank accounts, get credit cards, etc....... One woman said she lived in her car for 6 months after she couldn't pay her bills and lost her house.

This is just about the worst thing that can happen and it's happening a lot. The guy from SSA said it's just a matter of hitting the wrong key on the keyboard. Lord help anyone who gets into a situation like that. There is absolutely no easy way to rectify it either. ${#emotions_dlg.scared}$

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

On 3/16/2015 sophiamarie said:
This is O/T but in the same segment last night, they talked about people who were declared DEAD when they were alive and well. When that happens, you can't access your bank accounts, get credit cards, etc....... One woman said she lived in her car for 6 months after she couldn't pay her bills and lost her house.

This is just about the worst thing that can happen and it's happening a lot. The guy from SSA said it's just a matter of hitting the wrong key on the keyboard. Lord help anyone who gets into a situation like that. There is absolutely no easy way to rectify it either. ${#emotions_dlg.scared}$

I can't imagine how someone would lose their home over a typo...especially since it takes a LOT longer than 6 months to have your home foreclosed.

There was something "off" about that story, IMO.