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Re: 25" in 45mins. Just How?


@Elsie299 wrote:

@rms1954 wrote:

It's weather.  There are no explanations.


I can't tell if you're joking. 


NO, she's NOT joking. Her comment is SPOT ON. NOT too hard to figure out.

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Re: 25" in 45mins. Just How?

Remember that weather events haven't been recorded that long as far as high and low, most rain etc.  Not a long record to anticipate what might happen in the long term.

 

And the land itself makes flash flooding a much higher probability, along with a wet year, lots of storms that sit and don't move out, and storms that move down a drainage pattern also cause very intense flash flooding as water piles up down the drainage paths.  

 

Lots of flash flood warnings get issued around where I live but I'm not sure how much attention people pay to them. 

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@monicakm wrote:

@Desertdi 

 

Is the word "Bible" dis-allowed on the forum?  Natural disasters are included in the things to happen before the Second Coming of Christ.  I just heard 80 people have perished because of the flood. Dear God Smiley Sad


@monicakm 

 

Which "word" you use on the forums, sometimes depends on the moderator.       

 

What I really meant was that the bible is also a HISTORY BOOK...covering thousands of years.   (I inherited one...not sure if anybody read it.)

 

 

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@MoJoV wrote:

 


@SilleeMee wrote:

Rising sea levels (from glacier melts) cause more water to go up into the atmosphere and then the water in the atmosphere falls back onto the earth in the form of rain or snow. It's only going to get worse in the coming months and years.

 

Flooding is happening all over the globe.


I remember hearing this was going to happen from the science community a few years ago.  Here it is.  It's real and going to affect the world.


Are you 2 sure about that?? According to this article, measurements aren't accurate at all and over-estimate the situation (if there even is one).

 

Flaws in 150 Years of Global Temperature Data Blow Holes in Global Warming Narrative
by Antonio Graceffo 

 

As justification for their climate crisis hysteria, liberals keep insisting that average global temperatures have risen, with the most commonly cited figure being a 1.1°C to 1.3°C (2.0°F to 2.3°F) increase since the pre-industrial era (1850–1900). The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), however, begins its “reliable” records in 1880 and reports an increase of about 1.1°C (2.0°F) since then. Even NOAA acknowledges the limitations of early data, stating, “Earth’s surface temperature has risen about 2 degrees Fahrenheit since the start of the NOAA record in 1850.”

 

But these claims rest on flawed foundations. Ninety-six percent of U.S. temperature stations fail to meet NOAA’s own siting standards and are often surrounded by development, resulting in inflated readings from the urban heat island effect. The transition from mercury thermometers to digital sensors between the 1980s and 2000s introduced discontinuities in the data, right during the period of supposed accelerated warming. Early measurements were geographically concentrated in Europe and North America, ignoring vast regions, especially the 71% of the planet covered by oceans.

 

Measurement errors of ±0.5°C often exceed the very climate signals being used to justify sweeping policy changes. Worse still, much of the raw data has been adjusted or “homogenized” using subjective assumptions that can introduce as much bias as the trends being studied. These problems, taken together, undermine the precision required to detect the small temperature changes that underpin today’s aggressive climate agenda.

 

Approximately 96 percent of temperature stations used to measure climate change fail to meet the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s own standards for “acceptable” and uncorrupted placement. This finding comes from Anthony Watts’ Surface Stations Project, documented in multiple studies including “Corrupted Climate Stations: The Official U.S. Surface Temperature Record Remains Fatally Flawed.”

 

Watts and his team of volunteers found stations “located next to the exhaust fans of air conditioning units, surrounded by asphalt parking lots and roads, on blistering-hot rooftops, and near sidewalks and buildings that absorb and radiate heat.” Even more troubling, data from properly sited stations show “a rate of warming in the United States reduced by almost half compared to all stations.” This suggests that a significant portion of reported warming may be artificial, created by poor measurement practices rather than actual climate change.

 

One of the most persistent flaws in the temperature record is the urban heat island effect. Many weather stations originally placed in rural areas during the 1800s and early 1900s are now surrounded by urban development. Cities generate heat through concrete absorption, reduced vegetation, and dense human activity, producing temperature readings that are consistently 2–5°F warmer than nearby rural areas. This is not speculation, it’s basic physics.

 

Urban surfaces retain heat differently than natural landscapes, and as development grew around these stations, they began measuring the heat of human expansion rather than natural climate conditions. The result is an artificial warming trend unrelated to global climate change.

 

Economist Ross McKitrick’s peer-reviewed research, published in journals like Climate Dynamics, exposes another troubling trend: socioeconomic signals in temperature data. If these measurements were purely reflecting climate, no such patterns should exist. Instead, McKitrick found correlations between economic growth and recorded warming, indicating that long-term temperature trends may be partially driven by the development occurring around measurement sites, not by the climate itself.

 

Perhaps the most damning analysis comes from Stanford researcher Patrick Frank, whose statistical analysis reveals that “the average annual systematic measurement uncertainty is ±0.5°C, which completely vitiates centennial climate warming at the 95% confidence interval.” In practical terms, this means the measurement errors are larger than the climate changes being measured. Frank concludes that “we cannot reject the hypothesis that the world’s temperature has not changed at all.”

 

The transition from analog mercury thermometers to digital electronic sensors is one of the most significant discontinuities in the 150-year global temperature record. Before digitalization, temperatures were measured using mercury-in-glass thermometers, read manually by observers at specific times each day. In contrast, modern digital systems use electronic sensors that continuously sample temperatures, have different thermal response characteristics, and rely on automated data processing. This means the measurements taken with digital systems are dramatically more accurate and more complete than those collected manually using mercury thermometers.

 

In the United States, digital sensors began replacing analog instruments in the 1980s, rendering direct comparisons with earlier U.S. records unreliable. Globally, digital systems weren’t widely adopted until the 1990s and 2000s, making comparisons between U.S. and international temperature data invalid prior to full global standardization.

 

Early temperature records suffered from severe geographic bias. Measurements were heavily concentrated in Europe and North America, with vast regions including most oceans, polar areas, Africa, and Asia having sparse or no data. Ocean temperatures, covering 71% of Earth’s surface, were particularly poorly measured before the 1950s. This creates a fundamental sampling problem. Scientists attempting to calculate “global” temperature averages were actually working with data from a small fraction of the planet, then extrapolating to represent the entire Earth. The assumption that well-documented European and North American weather patterns represent global conditions is scientifically questionable.

 

To address acknowledged measurement problems, scientists apply extensive “corrections” and adjustments to raw temperature data through a process called homogenization. However, these adjustments involve assumptions and subjective decisions that can introduce their own biases.

 

Different research groups using different adjustment methods arrive at different temperature trends from the same raw data. The magnitude of these adjustments is often comparable to the climate signals being studied. When the corrections applied to data are as large as the trends being measured, the measurements lose all meaning.

 

Regardless of accusations that “climate deniers” are rejecting science, the implications of these flaws are serious. Trillions of dollars in policy decisions are being based on temperature records in which measurement errors exceed the very climate trends they claim to show.

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From The Science Times:

 

Global Climate Change: The Earth Has Shifted, Say Inuit Elders
By Muneeb Kazi Updated: Apr 06 2015

A new warning has come to NASA from the Inuits. They are warning that the change in climate is not due to global warming but rather, because of the Earth shifting a bit.

 

The Inuits are local people that live in the Arctic regions of Canada, the United States and Greenland. They are excellent weather forecasters and so were their ancestors. Presently they are warning NASA that the cause of change in weather, earthquakes etc, are not due to global warming as the world thinks. They also report that

 

They state that the earth has shifted or "wobbled". "Their sky has changed!"

 

The elders declare that the sun rises at a different position now, not where it used to previously. They also have longer daylight to hunt now, the sun is much higher than earlier, and it gets warmer much quickly. Other elders across the north also confirmed the same thing about the sky changing when interviewed.

 

They also alleged that the position of sun, moon and stars have all changed causing changes in the temperature. This has also affected the wind and it is very difficult to predict the weather now and according to them predicting weather is necessary on Arctic.


All the elders confirmed that the Earth has shifted, wobbled or tilted toward the North.

 

This information provided by the Inuit Elders has caused a great concern in the NASA scientists.

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Re: 25" in 45mins. Just How?

Weather can vary from neighborhood to neighborhood.    My girlfriend called me one night and said, "Look outside...it's a blizzard."   Nothing here, and she doesn't live very far away.

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@Kachina624 wrote:

Kerrville is in the Hill Country.  Not only did a lot of rain come down but it ran off all the hills in the area into the Guadalupe River and other tributaries.   Flash floods are very common in the Hill Country.  All the low places along their highways have flood water measuring poles to show how deep water is.

 

This instance was much worse than most, but not the worst ever.


@Kachina624 

This happens in this area a lot but not to this extent.  It did, however, happen this way in the past century, c.1925 (I think is what I read, but don't quote me. I have low sodium and my mind is not working as well as it was a few weeks ago).

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@Desertdi wrote:

I think the answer is in that "good" book...


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@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:

From The Science Times:

 

Global Climate Change: The Earth Has Shifted, Say Inuit Elders
By Muneeb Kazi Updated: Apr 06 2015

A new warning has come to NASA from the Inuits. They are warning that the change in climate is not due to global warming but rather, because of the Earth shifting a bit.

 

The Inuits are local people that live in the Arctic regions of Canada, the United States and Greenland. They are excellent weather forecasters and so were their ancestors. Presently they are warning NASA that the cause of change in weather, earthquakes etc, are not due to global warming as the world thinks. They also report that

 

They state that the earth has shifted or "wobbled". "Their sky has changed!"

 

The elders declare that the sun rises at a different position now, not where it used to previously. They also have longer daylight to hunt now, the sun is much higher than earlier, and it gets warmer much quickly. Other elders across the north also confirmed the same thing about the sky changing when interviewed.

 

They also alleged that the position of sun, moon and stars have all changed causing changes in the temperature. This has also affected the wind and it is very difficult to predict the weather now and according to them predicting weather is necessary on Arctic.


All the elders confirmed that the Earth has shifted, wobbled or tilted toward the North.

 

This information provided by the Inuit Elders has caused a great concern in the NASA scientists.


@ThinkingOutLoud 

 

Yes, the 12/26/2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami changed the degree of the earth's axis.

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