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So many heinous crimes committed that go virtually unnoticed and this girl gets so much attention.

I don't get it.

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On 3/18/2015 beammeupscottie said:

You are absolutely correct. IF she were going to be in solitary with few privileges for the rest of her natural life I think most people would be satisfied.

What grinds people (well, me if nobody else) is the fact that this creep will find a way to enjoy her life in prison if she is allowed contact with others. Look at Richard Speck he was very happy in prison.

Wasn't Speck MURDERED in prison?

Edited -OOOPS...wrong notorious criminal!

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On 3/18/2015 Autumn in NY said:

No matter how heinous and horrific the crime is, I always feel a sense of sadness and dread on the day any death row prisoner is finally executed. A waste of a life for a life. With that said I always feel the same way when I see photos of women walking into abo-rtion clinics. How can you feel for one and not the other.

I feel very sad for the person who has to carry out the DP...the technicians who administer the drugs.

That has to be a terrible job.

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What does that do to a person? Injecting someone with a lethal dose.

You can't just do that and go home and eat dinner.

Unless you're a cold SOB too.

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On 3/18/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:

What does that do to a person? Injecting someone with a lethal dose.

You can't just do that and go home and eat dinner.

Unless you're a cold SOB too.


Jodi went and had secks with another fella right after she butchered Travis. Some people have that disconnect...

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I'm not really a proponent of the death penalty for a few reasons.

I probably would not have been able to serve on the JA jury.

However, ANYONE that did serve should not have lied about their feelings or not disclosed any connections to the prosecution.

This case would most likely have resulted in a death penalty if not for lying jurors.

This does bother me as I am a strong believer in the rule of law.

So, I don't admire this juror for what she did, despite my being against the death penalty.

Hyacinth

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I'm going to express my pov (again) instead of addressing every poster here.

First, I already stated that if somebody is FOR the dp and can defend their position in a mature manner, it won't change how I feel about that poster.

Next, nobody for the dp for JA is addressing how SOME posters, not all, are hoping JA is murdered by other inmates and/or beaten to a pulp. Fact. Those feelings were posted on various JA threads.

And yes, some are freaking out over JA not getting the needle - that is what I mean about pulling their hair over this. For heaven's sake - let's fact it - the JA case started out with the salacious s*x details. And that caused many snickering posts in the early days of JA.

So many gruesome murders take place in this country but JA garnered more attention than was really necessary.

I also believe that SOME, not all, really don't care as much about Travis as they claim - and that is because SOME posts have been about her hair, her clothes, her face - etc. Nothing at all that was germane to the case. It always struck me as catty and self-righteous. And, dare I say it, if JA had been a man and Travis a woman? No such remarks would be made.

Let me tell you why I am against the dp - and don't forget I'm in the drive-through state for dp cases.

It's applied unfairly and unevenly; there is always a doubt (DNA aside today). It is the fact that somewhere a person went wrong. Why, is not for me to say. Yes, we are all responsible for our actions and yes, punishment must be handed out no matter who committed the crime or who the victim was.

Not every dp criminal is a hard-core s.o.b without feelings. But at one time that person was somebody's child; at one time there was potential for that person to be somebody else besides a dp case. Whether that person deliberately chose his/her actions that caused him/her to face the ultimate punishment is moot to me.

It is the end of a life that very well should have been about being what he/she should have been. It is the understanding for those who turned the wrong way in a blink of the eye.

I don't hate JA; I hate what she did. Her life sentence is not going to change my life one way or the other.

I'm sorry Travis was murdered but I also mourn any person who had to pay the ultimate punishment; not because I feel sorry for them or feel that they were treated unjustly but because we, as a society, still fail to help the mentally ill, still believe that the dp will ease all the criminal ills in this country, still have throw away children, and most importantly believe that somehow killing the killer will make it all go away. It never did and it never will.

jmoymmv

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Jodi isn't the first to commit a heinous crime. There are two on trial for horrible murders right now in just one city, Boston. Not being a proponent of the DP does not mean one feels sorry for these monsters. It simply means one does not believe in state sanctioned murder. Besides, I think the bigger punishment is gained by sentencing these murderers to the rest of their natural lives behind bars while law abiding citizens live out their lives in freedom.

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I do think people have a point about life sentences not being enough punishment when some of the murders live better lives behind bars than many of our law abiding citizens who are poor.

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On 3/18/2015 Cakers1 said:

I'm going to express my pov (again) instead of addressing every poster here.

First, I already stated that if somebody is FOR the dp and can defend their position in a mature manner, it won't change how I feel about that poster.

Next, nobody for the dp for JA is addressing how SOME posters, not all, are hoping JA is murdered by other inmates and/or beaten to a pulp. Fact. Those feelings were posted on various JA threads.

And yes, some are freaking out over JA not getting the needle - that is what I mean about pulling their hair over this. For heaven's sake - let's fact it - the JA case started out with the salacious s*x details. And that caused many snickering posts in the early days of JA.

So many gruesome murders take place in this country but JA garnered more attention than was really necessary.

I also believe that SOME, not all, really don't care as much about Travis as they claim - and that is because SOME posts have been about her hair, her clothes, her face - etc. Nothing at all that was germane to the case. It always struck me as catty and self-righteous. And, dare I say it, if JA had been a man and Travis a woman? No such remarks would be made.

Let me tell you why I am against the dp - and don't forget I'm in the drive-through state for dp cases.

It's applied unfairly and unevenly; there is always a doubt (DNA aside today). It is the fact that somewhere a person went wrong. Why, is not for me to say. Yes, we are all responsible for our actions and yes, punishment must be handed out no matter who committed the crime or who the victim was.

Not every dp criminal is a hard-core s.o.b without feelings. But at one time that person was somebody's child; at one time there was potential for that person to be somebody else besides a dp case. Whether that person deliberately chose his/her actions that caused him/her to face the ultimate punishment is moot to me.

It is the end of a life that very well should have been about being what he/she should have been. It is the understanding for those who turned the wrong way in a blink of the eye.

I don't hate JA; I hate what she did. Her life sentence is not going to change my life one way or the other.

I'm sorry Travis was murdered but I also mourn any person who had to pay the ultimate punishment; not because I feel sorry for them or feel that they were treated unjustly but because we, as a society, still fail to help the mentally ill, still believe that the dp will ease all the criminal ills in this country, still have throw away children, and most importantly believe that somehow killing the killer will make it all go away. It never did and it never will.

jmoymmv

I know we don't agree on much, but I just have to tell you this post is powerfully and beautifully written. I agree with every single word you wrote.

~Enough is enough~