# 17 speaks out... - Page 10

kristan · ‎03-13-2010

Juror #17 had a grudge against Juan for prosecuting her ex & hubby. I wish Jodi was sitting in solitary confinement on death row, but I have moved past her. She is a waste of a human.

scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/18/2015 Lion said:
I do think people have a point about life sentences not being enough punishment when some of the murders live better lives behind bars than many of our law abiding citizens who are poor.

Good point.

It is indeed twofold I think.

1. That they come to enjoy themselves because they are able to associate with other prisoners.* Arias will find a way to manipulate other prisoners and destroy other lives, you can be sure of that.

2. We have seen in the past that somehere down the line, murderers have been released to commit other crimes.

*I again point to Richard Speck. I saw the creepy video of him saying "if people knew how much fun we are having here...."

Vicious brutal murderers should not be having "fun" behind bars.

And I do refer to vicious brutal murderers where there is no doubt that they committed their crime and that the crime was vicious and brutal.

Maryann_R · ‎03-07-2013

Yep, thanks to Juror #17. I don't think it was so much as her against the DP, as much as it is her being against Juan Martinez. It's not wanting her to get death as it is, wanting her confined to a cell for the rest of her life, not being able to be the most popular inmate, or winning singing contests, or whatever contests that prison might have, because we can't have them confined to their cells. like their punishment calls for, that would be inhumane.

KittyLouSoutenu · ‎02-15-2015

On 3/19/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/18/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/18/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
What does that do to a person? Injecting someone with a lethal dose.

You can't just do that and go home and eat dinner.

Unless you're a cold SOB too.

Jodi went and had secks with another fella right after she butchered Travis. Some people have that disconnect...

So you do think that those who put others to death in prison are adversely affected by it?

Yes, so do I.

I think it's a vicious cycle.

That's a good question. I would be interested in reading interviews with executioners on that subject.

I have said I have mixed feelings about the death penalty. I don't think it's a vicious cycle though.

My reason for posting in the first place was to ask the question of how giving a lethal injection to someone affects them.

Interviewing them might not tell you much of anything, but perhaps following their life might.

scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/19/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/18/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/18/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
What does that do to a person? Injecting someone with a lethal dose.

You can't just do that and go home and eat dinner.

Unless you're a cold SOB too.

Jodi went and had secks with another fella right after she butchered Travis. Some people have that disconnect...

So you do think that those who put others to death in prison are adversely affected by it?

Yes, so do I.

I think it's a vicious cycle.

That's a good question. I would be interested in reading interviews with executioners on that subject.

I have said I have mixed feelings about the death penalty. I don't think it's a vicious cycle though.

My reason for posting in the first place was to ask the question of how giving a lethal injection to someone affects them.

Interviewing them might not tell you much of anything, but perhaps following their life might.

I am getting the feeling (limitations of online communication) that you are unhappy with my response?

KittyLouSoutenu · ‎02-15-2015

On 3/19/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/19/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/18/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/18/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
What does that do to a person? Injecting someone with a lethal dose.

You can't just do that and go home and eat dinner.

Unless you're a cold SOB too.

Jodi went and had secks with another fella right after she butchered Travis. Some people have that disconnect...

So you do think that those who put others to death in prison are adversely affected by it?

Yes, so do I.

I think it's a vicious cycle.

That's a good question. I would be interested in reading interviews with executioners on that subject.

I have said I have mixed feelings about the death penalty. I don't think it's a vicious cycle though.

My reason for posting in the first place was to ask the question of how giving a lethal injection to someone affects them.

Interviewing them might not tell you much of anything, but perhaps following their life might.

I am getting the feeling (limitations of online communication) that you are unhappy with my response?

Unhappy? No. I just wanted to clarify as I didn't think you understood my initial post.

scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/19/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/19/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/19/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/18/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/18/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
What does that do to a person? Injecting someone with a lethal dose.

You can't just do that and go home and eat dinner.

Unless you're a cold SOB too.

Jodi went and had secks with another fella right after she butchered Travis. Some people have that disconnect...

So you do think that those who put others to death in prison are adversely affected by it?

Yes, so do I.

I think it's a vicious cycle.

That's a good question. I would be interested in reading interviews with executioners on that subject.

I have said I have mixed feelings about the death penalty. I don't think it's a vicious cycle though.

My reason for posting in the first place was to ask the question of how giving a lethal injection to someone affects them.

Interviewing them might not tell you much of anything, but perhaps following their life might.

I am getting the feeling (limitations of online communication) that you are unhappy with my response?

Unhappy? No. I just wanted to clarify as I didn't think you understood my initial post.

Oh, well maybe I didn't, then. It would be an interesting study. I wonder if anyone has done one.

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

To imagine a loved one could be murdered is far from a ludicrous statement. As kaliloky stated it’s a reality, and it happens to people every day. It’s one of the reasons we lock our doors, don’t pick up strangers, stay out of dark alleys, etc. We strive to protect our loved ones because we know there are lunatics in the world who have no morals or concern for other people. If we couldn't imagine dangers in the world we wouldn't guard against them.

Yes it has been said that Travis’ family should forgive Jodi, but I don’t have a problem with that. Maybe others do, but I just see it as someone’s opinion which is as valid to them as mine is to me. I don’t agree with it, but that’s not a requirement for anyone here.

I understand being upset about being called things like angry. I was a little disappointed with the implication that those for the dp are filled with blood lust and being continuously asked to explain things other people have said. But then again, people have their opinions and so be it.

The comment about feeling sorry for the executioner, and what it means to him/her was an interesting one with facets we here on this board have no real answers to—unless, of course, we personally know, or have studied, someone who has done this and they have shared extensively.

My thought, which could be entirely wrong, is that an executioner isn’t someone who is picked up off the street and asked to do the job immediately. I would imagine there are psychological exams and that the job is voluntary.

There are many jobs today that probably have great impact on the person doing them. For me, it would be working with children and animals. Seeing how children are mistreated by people who are supposed to love them would break my heart, and I feel for the workers who have to put animals to death at shelters. I guess I feel for the innocents, and not so much for evil.

PIT-HAG Melissa · ‎03-09-2010

I didn't realize there was so much response here..

Thank you for ALL the input...

In my head, I believe I could "kill" someone that murdered a family member BUT in my heart, I don't know that I could really "live" with that....

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