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Re: 12 year-old kills a Sonic employee

Most states don’t even require gun safety training.

It’s more difficult to get a driver’s license.
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Re: 12 year-old kills a Sonic employee

@bikerbabe 

 

The Bill of Rights doesn't include the right to drive.

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Re: 12 year-old kills a Sonic employee

Irrelevant.

The Second Amendment doesn’t mean the right to own anything and everything without limit. It also doesn’t preclude some level of responsibility. Gun safety training doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.

Shouldn’t advocates of the Second Amendment WANT to advocate for responsible ownership?
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We don't have militias in 2023 either. I want my rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without worrying about being shot by random people with guns.

 

No one is coming to take your precious guns away, in spite of what some might be telling you. After all, they're even more important than the lives of small children.

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Re: 12 year-old kills a Sonic employee

We all, or most, want responsible parenting, driving... and there are laws meant to insure that.

Still, it doesn't happen, not rarely, not even occasionally, but all the time.

Laws are not needed for responsible people and irresponsible people do as they please.

A small percentage get caught, fined, arrested, and some of them go to jail, but that does not alter their irresponsible behavior nor that of the rest.

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I grew up in a family of gun lovers.  Even as small children, my parents had multiple guns in nightstands and around the house.  There was the obligatory gun cabinet in the family room with multiple rifles, unlocked, of course.

 

In my mother's later years, she was determined she was going to carry her gun with her wherever she went.  Of course, she never had any training along the way.

 

My husband and I tried repeatedly to tell her if someone overpowered her they would take her gun and use it on her or someone else.  There is NO WAY she would have the presence of mind or ability in a nanosecond to fend off anyone.  She became a danger to herself and others.

 

Hopefully, those here in possession of guns will think about things carefully and, at the very least, take some type of training frequently.

 

 

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@bikerbabe wrote:
Most states don’t even require gun safety training.

It’s more difficult to get a driver’s license.

 

 

 

@bikerbabe 

 

Are you talking about the purchase of a firearm, or the legality to carry one? 

 

My drivers license I renewed online until I turned 75. I was eligible to do so because I had no accidents or citations since 1960.

 

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@bikerbabe wrote:
Irrelevant.

The Second Amendment doesn’t mean the right to own anything and everything without limit. It also doesn’t preclude some level of responsibility. Gun safety training doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.

Shouldn’t advocates of the Second Amendment WANT to advocate for responsible ownership?

 

 

 

@bikerbabe 

 

The 2nd Amendment is relatively short, and concise. Surprises me how those few words can be interpreted in so many different ways.

 

Firearm safety training would be good for many that purchase them. Making it a requirement for everyone! There are many presently in our Military, and even more that are Veterans that have already served. My service was decades ago, but living with my firearm next to me most of those years! I didn't forget anything I learned about firearm safety and/or maintenance.

 

I am all for a deep background check on everyone that wants to legally possess a firearm.There is absolutely no legal reason that I would/should not pass a background check, but.

 

There are several states where that would make no difference. I would not be able to legally own a firearm. Why? In "A" state, "because nobody has threatened to kill me". What that has to do with my background? 

 

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@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:

We don't have militias in 2023 either. I want my rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without worrying about being shot by random people with guns.

 

 

@Greeneyedlady21 

 

We do still have Militias, they just have different names. Army Reserve Units/National Guard Units, just to name a couple. They are part time Members used on an emergency basis.

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No one is coming to take your precious guns away, in spite of what some might be telling you. After all, they're even more important than the lives of small children.

 

@Greeneyedlady21 

 

Nobody is telling me they are going to take my gun. To me, my gun is not a precious commodity. I bought it for the protection of myself/family, and possibly an event that involved others safety, which might include the lives of small children.

 

To me this is not an either/or, where 1 opinion is right and 1 opinion is wrong. We just happen to differ in our opinions.

 

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