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01-28-2016 06:23 AM
I think most are missing the point of this post. The OP isn't judging those she hasn't met. She is speaking of those she knows who consistently complain about wanting to change and probably feel better about themselves. I also have friends who whine about wanting to look and feel better about themselves but backslide in the opposite way instead. IF they didn't go on and on about feeling so poorly about themselves since retirement, than I would never give a secnd thought to how they chose to look. OP stated in a subsequent post:
"These are women I know, not just women I see women who have no serious illness that I'm aware of, If anyone was being judged , it was me. Many feel I'm the one that's overindulgent because I took care of myself throughout the years, I went through illness and live with it, but I knew that if I didn't help myself no one else was going to do it for me. And I didn't mention weight. I know some women that cry that they want to change things about themselves, have plenty of $$$ to do whatever but would rather go out to drink or buy massive amounts of food. And then they complain about their appearance, I.e, my hair is thinning, clothes don't fit right and on and on. No one can do it but them. "
01-28-2016 06:42 AM
I almost always wear makeup if going out. It is not a big overdone face for walmart but a simple routine. I dye my hair to get rid of gray.
I admire women who are so secure that they can go out looking the way they want. They put on makeup if they want and put on what they want to wear without waisting prescious energy on worrying about what other people think. I have not gotten to that point. I feel how I look represents me to the world and for some reason still care how I represent myself.
01-28-2016 06:44 AM - edited 01-28-2016 06:45 AM
I kind of see both sides of this. I have worn makeup since I was 14. I intend to wear it as long as it gives me a lift. With that said, you can take anything too far and put too much emphasis on looks. Nothing wrong if I want to look my best but if I think I have to look as well or better than everyone else Well..... that is another thing all together.
You can walk into a room thinking you look great and say, "Here I am", or you can walk into a room looking great saying, "There you are"! It's all about the attitude you have about it, imo.
The most confident women I know can be seen with makeup on and can be seen with makeup off and really not care what someone else thinks!
01-28-2016 07:03 AM
@Trinity11 wrote:
@151949 wrote:I know so many women who move to Florida for the gorgeous weather -- then won't go out side because the sun will age them. Seriously?
Maybe they aren't out sunning themselves because of the possibility of melanoma and skin cancer.
The temptation of living in all that sunshine would be too much for me !!! I have had skin cancer.
01-28-2016 08:44 AM
@sktchy wrote:
@Trinity11 wrote:
@151949 wrote:I know so many women who move to Florida for the gorgeous weather -- then won't go out side because the sun will age them. Seriously?
Maybe they aren't out sunning themselves because of the possibility of melanoma and skin cancer.
The temptation of living in all that sunshine would be too much for me !!! I have had skin cancer.
I didn't say anything about "sunning themselves" did i? I am saying they won't go out - they sit in the house. If you can't park 5 ft from the door of a restaurant they won't go there because they don't want to walk from the car to the door, so you have to drop them off and pick them up at the door. they won't swim or play golf, go to the beach - oh the horror, or even sit outside at a restaurant.No outside activities at all. One neighbor told me she will never have cataracts because she will not go in the sun for any reason. So I asked her why she moved to Florida then and she said I don't know.
Anyway the fact is that the skin cancer you are getting today is from the sun exposure you had 30 years ago - not the sun exposure now. that will appear in 30 years from now and I seriously doubt I'll be around 30 more years.
01-28-2016 09:49 AM
"I didn't say anything about "sunning themselves" did i? I am saying they won't go out - they sit in the house. If you can't park 5 ft from the door of a restaurant they won't go there because they don't want to walk from the car to the door, so you have to drop them off and pick them up at the door. they won't swim or play golf, go to the beach - oh the horror, or even sit outside at a restaurant.No outside activities at all. One neighbor told me she will never have cataracts because she will not go in the sun for any reason. So I asked her why she moved to Florida then and she said I don't know.
Anyway the fact is that the skin cancer you are getting today is from the sun exposure you had 30 years ago - not the sun exposure now. that will appear in 30 years from now and I seriously doubt I'll be around 30 more years."
People in their 60s may not be as concerned about keeping their skin looking young as are people in their 20s and 30s. But that doesn’t mean that older adults should stop wearing sunscreen and worrying about sun damage. In fact, a 2009 study showed that older skin is less able to protect itself from skin cancer. The study showed that in older adults, the skin had a diminished ability to attract a certain type of immune cells called T cells to damaged areas where repairs were needed. This means the skin didn’t heal as well, leaving the person more vulnerable to infections and also skin cancer.
Since the skin becomes more delicate and vulnerable as we age, that means that it’s more important than ever for older adults to protect their skin from damage caused by the sun. Older adults need to take special precautions to limit their sun exposure as much as possible.
01-28-2016 12:45 PM
@Zhills wrote:"I didn't say anything about "sunning themselves" did i? I am saying they won't go out - they sit in the house. If you can't park 5 ft from the door of a restaurant they won't go there because they don't want to walk from the car to the door, so you have to drop them off and pick them up at the door. they won't swim or play golf, go to the beach - oh the horror, or even sit outside at a restaurant.No outside activities at all. One neighbor told me she will never have cataracts because she will not go in the sun for any reason. So I asked her why she moved to Florida then and she said I don't know.
Anyway the fact is that the skin cancer you are getting today is from the sun exposure you had 30 years ago - not the sun exposure now. that will appear in 30 years from now and I seriously doubt I'll be around 30 more years."
People in their 60s may not be as concerned about keeping their skin looking young as are people in their 20s and 30s. But that doesn’t mean that older adults should stop wearing sunscreen and worrying about sun damage. In fact, a 2009 study showed that older skin is less able to protect itself from skin cancer. The study showed that in older adults, the skin had a diminished ability to attract a certain type of immune cells called T cells to damaged areas where repairs were needed. This means the skin didn’t heal as well, leaving the person more vulnerable to infections and also skin cancer.
Since the skin becomes more delicate and vulnerable as we age, that means that it’s more important than ever for older adults to protect their skin from damage caused by the sun. Older adults need to take special precautions to limit their sun exposure as much as possible.
- Know when to stay inside. According to the American Academy of Dermatology, the sun’s rays are strongest in North America between 10AM and 4PM. Take special care to stay inside or in a shaded area during these hours.
- Make sunscreen a part of your daily routine. Even a short walk to and from the car, or passing by sunny windows while indoors can expose your skin to dangerous UV rays.
- The American Academy of Dermatology recommends using sunscreen of SPF 30 on any exposed skin every day, whether you’ll be inside or out.
Excellent info and reminders, of course. But you're spitting in the wind here when you're replying to someone who claims that she knows people who have moved to Florida who refuse to leave their house.
Another day, another strawman argument to prove some original point that has now been obscured.
01-28-2016 01:09 PM - edited 01-28-2016 01:11 PM
I do realize that. But her post is so misleading. UVA and UVB rays don't take vacations. They can be worse on cloudy days.
Didn't you know that if you move to Florida you immediately become an expert on Florida? NOT!
Oh, well. Some one may benefit by this information.
One skin cancer avoided is one skin cancer avoided!
01-28-2016 01:26 PM
@SahmIam wrote:When I first posted, my gut said that this thread would go down a specific path.. and it did. And THAT'S because I've seen it play out many times (as I mentioned in my post).
The thing is, for every woman who thinks the OP is being judgemental about those not doing their hair, using makeup, gaining weight ,etc., you're doing the same thing by judging HER and HER opinion. That's why men sit back and laugh .... women attack women while men just shrug and say "do your thing, bro".
I was raised that you ALWAYS should be well groomed, well dressed, hair done and makeup on. My mom did, my aunties, friends and their moms.... it was just that way. So, they're all wrong because others see no need? I don't think so. Perhaps the OP feels that way because to not put that effort into one's appearance is considered....wrong. I don't know. I will tell you this... I live in a world of men and I hear what they say whether I want to or not. The number of men who think sloppy clothes, ungroomed hair and sloppy to no makeup is attractive is pretty slim. They do wonder why women stop "trying" after a certain point (again, it's not always about age). A man may say "you look great" but what is he supposed to say? "Honey, you look like a slob" .....and now he'll be on the sofa for evermore.
In the end, we each do as we please. But we're fooling ourselves if we think no one is looking and forming an opinion; good or bad. The REAL point of this is to not CARE what someone thinks. As long as we feel confident with ourselves, that's what matters. You do you, I'll do me. I may think you're slob but that's ok. You may think I'm a vain b*tch. That's ok too. It's what makes the world go round.
ITA. My mother was the same with me. She just turned 85, has a lot of health problems, but she still loves clothes, wears a bit of blush, and must have her lipstick on when she has to go out. But anyway, we are on the same page.
01-28-2016 01:27 PM
@Zhills wrote:I do realize that. But her post is so misleading. UVA and UVB rays don't take vacations. They can be worse on cloudy days.
Didn't you know that if you move to Florida you immediately become an expert on Florida? NOT!
Oh, well. Some one may benefit by this information.
One skin cancer avoided is one skin cancer avoided!
I could not agree more, Zhills. Just didn't want you needlessly to o down that rabbit hole with her. I've done so more times than I count.
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