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[suzyQ3]

On 7/3/2014 suebdoo said:

Thanks SuzyQ3 for that comparison. I have the Mad Hippie to try 1st but if no results I may try NCN. How many drops do any of you use? This is kinda thick but absorbs and dries almost too fast so I am doing one section of my face at a time. JLF if you see this maybe you can enlighten me

I'm sure that JLF can help with regard to Mad Hippie.

As for the NCN serum, it's liquidy. I pump two pumps into the palm of one hand and then slightly rub my palms together and pat the serum on my face. This serum does dry fairly quickly, but I don't find that it's a problem at all. HTH.

[Wackers3]

The reason so many dermatologists recommend Skinceuticals is because when the brand first came out, the creators marketed the brand heavily within the medical community. Not to sell it (though many derms did elect to offer it within their practices) but to recommend it to their patients. Believe it or choose not to, but most dermatologists would be hard pressed to think of another brand to recommend. They don't keep up with what are the best brands currently available (in skincare in general) and would find it a challenge to compare the pros and cons in most of the ingredient decks. My sister sees a very prominent derm in NYC and he has been really honest with her about how and why most derms tend to choose certain brands, admitting that they do not keep up with what might be better formulas. Skinceuticals was very savvy in marketing their brand to the medical community but that was a long time ago and there are far better formulations out there now. Just the propylene glycol is indicative of that - really good brands have eliminated that ingredient completely in all their products.

I used Skinceuticals for a long time and really got frustrated with the lack of results. I decided to give NCN's a try early this year and have been amazed at what a good C serum can accomplish, in a relatively short period of time. I have tough age spots and they have diminished by 2/3 in only a few months. All my time with Skinceuticals never even came close to accomplishing even a fraction of what NCN's C serum has done.

Any honest dermatologist will tell you they spend very minimal time in school learning about skincare. Some describe it as less than a day's worth of education. That's why they will promote those brands that cater to them - they don't have to sell them but it helps them look like they at least can make recommendations. Skincare and the most current ingredients are not their focus or strong suit. My sister's Dermatologist just happens to know her well enough to be really honest about it.

[Blondelle]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Ole Henriksen Truth Serum. It's a vitamin C serum with different types of C and it's billed as a collagen booster and it's magical. I use it with RetinolResQ at night and my skin has never looked this good with any other skincare I've tried including SKINN, Lancome, Isomers & Perricone. My skin was always blotchy and now looks like I'm wearing foundation when I'm not. At over 60 it glows, is plump, and the texture and pores are better, and it's firmer. It's $48 per ounce, but I got 3 months out of it just using it in the morning. I know it's working as when I mixed it with the Aplpha Hydrox Souffle, my results weren't as good as using it alone.

The only other C I've used was the Devita 20% one, and it left my skin irritated, and more blotchy. This combo works with the RetinolResQ!!! I think I read once the TS was Sephora's best selling serum.

[LoveKitten]

Love the philosophy C powder but ii use it for special days, it makes my skin look great. I am curious what is NCN? I have tried many vitamin C serums with no loyalty, I'm always thinking about what is compatible with the formulas based on some of the great info here over the years. I should get back on the wagon

[suzyQ3]

On 7/4/2014 Love Kitten said: Love the philosophy C powder but ii use it for special days, it makes my skin look great. I am curious what is NCN? I have tried many vitamin C serums with no loyalty, I'm always thinking about what is compatible with the formulas based on some of the great info here over the years. I should get back on the wagon

See Post #3 on this thread.

[suzyQ3]

On 7/4/2014 Blondelle said:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Ole Henriksen Truth Serum. It's a vitamin C serum with different types of C and it's billed as a collagen booster and it's magical. I use it with RetinolResQ at night and my skin has never looked this good with any other skincare I've tried including SKINN, Lancome, Isomers & Perricone. My skin was always blotchy and now looks like I'm wearing foundation when I'm not. At over 60 it glows, is plump, and the texture and pores are better, and it's firmer. It's $48 per ounce, but I got 3 months out of it just using it in the morning. I know it's working as when I mixed it with the Aplpha Hydrox Souffle, my results weren't as good as using it alone.

The only other C I've used was the Devita 20% one, and it left my skin irritated, and more blotchy. This combo works with the RetinolResQ!!! I think I read once the TS was Sephora's best selling serum.

I'm glad you like his Truth Serum. The ingredients do not appeal to me because of all the potential irritants. They're just so unnecessary:

Water, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Calcium Ascorbate, Sorbitol, Glycerin, Tocopheryl Acetate, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Fruit Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Euphrasis Officinalis Extract, Rosa Canina Fruit Extract, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, Oleth-20, Hydroxyethylcellulose, PEG-12 Dimethicone, Benzophenone-4, Sodium Hyaluronate, Thioctic Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Caprylyl Glycol, Hexylene Glycol, Limonene, Linalool, Citral, Fragrance, Yellow 6

[maestra]

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't we supposed to NOT mix Vit. C and retinol together? I thought each one cancelled out the other.

[poregirl]

On 7/4/2014 Blondelle said:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Ole Henriksen Truth Serum. It's a vitamin C serum with different types of C and it's billed as a collagen booster and it's magical. I use it with RetinolResQ at night and my skin has never looked this good with any other skincare I've tried including SKINN, Lancome, Isomers & Perricone. My skin was always blotchy and now looks like I'm wearing foundation when I'm not. At over 60 it glows, is plump, and the texture and pores are better, and it's firmer. It's $48 per ounce, but I got 3 months out of it just using it in the morning. I know it's working as when I mixed it with the Aplpha Hydrox Souffle, my results weren't as good as using it alone.

.Ole Henriksen Truth Serum.
Water, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Calcium Acerbate, Sorbitol, Glycerin, Tocopheryl Acetate, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Fruit Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Euphrasis Offinalis Extract, Rosa Canina Fruit Extract, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, Oleth-20, Hydroxyethylcellulose, PEG-12 Dimethicone, Benzophenone-4, Sodium Hyaluronate, Thioctic Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Caprylyl Glycol, Hexylene Glycol, Limonene, Linalool, Citral, Fragrance, Yellow 6 (CI 15985).

-Proprietary Five-Source Vitamin C Complex: Brightens, supports natural collagen, firms, and provides essential antioxidant protection.
-Green Tea Extract: Soothes and protects against free radical damage.
-Sodium Hyaluronate: Binds moisture to the skin and replenishes lost hydration.Vitamin E: Heals, restores, and nourishes

[LoveKitten]

Thanx Suzy Hazard of the speed reading. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge.

[suzyQ3]

On 7/4/2014 Love Kitten said: Thanx Suzy Hazard of the speed reading. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge.

You're most welcome, Love Kitten. But you know that vast knowledge of mine? It was a simple cut-and-paste.

I do use and like the product very much, though.