Beauty

[MarenSeattle]

On 4/26/2014 MarenSeattle said:

On 4/26/2014 SurvivedOne said:

On 4/26/2014 MarenSeattle said:

SurvivedOne:

I can only speak for myself, but the Wow! results I'm looking forward to are just SOME improvements. Too often we see NO results at all, and I've read over and over that the real changes begin to become apparent only after the assault has ended and the collagen regeneratian process gets a chance to "bloom" (can't think of another word).<br />

I'm not expecting Wow -- my wrinkles are GONE! I'm hoping for a Wow! This has helped make those wrinkles a little less deep! Is that unrealistic?

I've also assumed this will be an ongoing process and have actually stated that if I need to replace this every year or so, if the results are encouraging I have no problem with that, so planning on keeping it up indefinitely.

I DO have a question or two for you, so glad you dropped by. :-) I recall you saying you look like you had a tan during the first round (I'm looking like that, too) and that your skin looked pretty bad. When you do continuing 8 week treatments, do you experience the same "side effects" as you did during your first round? In other words, is it 8 weeks of "ewwww" and 4 weeks of "ahhhhh" -- then all over again? Thanks for your answer on this because it's been a BIG question on my tiny little mind. :-)

PS -- the fact that you're pleased enough by the results to continue is a great testimonial, IMO. How many cycles have you done?

If this was something I believed I would have to replace every year or so as you stated, I would never have purchased. I don't know what kind of "results" you are expecting, but if you are dealing with "wrinkles", you may be quite disappointed. I really don't think anything but medical intervention will give you real benefit in that, If you have fine lines, over a lengthy period you may see some fading. You may see a healthier tone to your skin, fading of some spots over time if you have them. My reason for using was/is upkeep of my overall skin tone. Which was my realistic expectation and result. Also, as far as saying I had a bronzed look to my skin initially, I never said my skin looked bad. If it did, if my skin looked bad in any way, if the device created any issue for me other than what was advised, I would have most definitely discontinued use, without question. There is no such thing as something working for or being right for everyone. As far as the next round, if you decide to keep your device, what one experiences may be totally different than others.

Apparently I'm not being clear in what I'm trying to say. I've already come to the conclusion I need injections or other "drastic" measures for the deep wrinkles, I was just hoping for SOME improvement as an indicator of how the Tria is working for me.

And I misunderstood/misremembered your post -- what you actually said was:,

"And it is just misery for the entire 8 weeks".... And "My skin was sandpapery, looked "tanned", was really dry, sore...just kept doing what I was doing." So I took that to mean it was sandpapery, dry and sore for the entire 8 weeks. I'm sure you can understand my interpretation.<.p>

You also said:

"If you watch the videos and understand what this type of laser is actually doing, it makes sense why your skin is doing what it is doing. And why the 4 week recovery is when you see the changes. I'm not sure why you think we DON'T understand that. We've done a lot of research, too, and understand the damage that the skin is is subjected to and the recovery period needed in order for the collagen to regenerate. I don't think we have unrealistic expectations and think you underestimate us.

And you did answer in that thread (Tria Week 2) the question I asked above:

"I waited a couple of months before doing another round. It was a cake walk in comparison each time. So I guess you'd already addressed that -- thanks.

I have no qualms of spending $500 a year on something that benefits my skin -- why would I? I'd easily spend that on serums and treatments -- seems cheap to me if I'm happy with the results. But we'll differ on that opinion, I guess.

And as you mentioned, nothing is right or works for everyone, and that underscores that we all respond differently. So because you're a seasoned veteran :-), your results may not be what we can expect. Maybe that's why I don't seem to be able to commuicate to you what I'm trying to express -- we're just filtering through our own individual observations and experiences.

Again, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with us -- much appreciated!

Whoa.

[islandliving]

To SurvivedOne,

Sorry that these dialogues have gotten to where they have. I think so often the spoken word is better than text messages and emails because of the situations that may be happening around us at the time we are texting/emailing. I am sorry for your loss.

Both times I have posted on this forum after your informative helpful posts on your experience with the Tria the forums go negative and you are not able to answer my question.

Was your "bronze" look to your skin temporary? Overall did you see an improvement in areas of pigmentation?

Thank you if you are able to respond.

[MarenSeattle]

On 4/26/2014 bljed said:

I was reading on the Tria website that it is indicated for the treatment of lines and wrinkles. I guess about 76% of users saw a reduction in them. Honestly I bought the Tria to see if it would reduce the fine lines around my eyes. I don't need help with 'clarity' or tone really. From what they claim I would expect (hope) for that result with the one treatment round.

bljed, remind me -- Was it you who was hoping to keep this treatment on the down low from your family? If so, your husband's response is EXTRA sweet! :-)

[snowball]

SurvivedOne, like I said before, I may have misread your post and I am sorry! But you really do come across that you know so much more than we do, and obviously you do, but we really do need and appreciate your help.

[saidthespidertothefly]

Well I am happy thus far with my decision in giving the Tria a chance, as I have reported I am pleased and looking forward to more good results.

Shannara, thank you for keeping up the weekly update threads, week five is almost here.

Maren, thank you for you enthusiastic help in providing information, like EDS. your posts have been helpful.

Thank you to the other posters who have helped, posted questions, answers, and their experiences along with updates.

I am enjoying the Tria and hope others will continue to share.

Have a great evening~

[MarenSeattle]

On 4/26/2014 snowball said:

On 4/26/2014 SurvivedOne said:

MarrenSeattle - I am completely, totally appalled at how you have addressed me in your above post. I posted on a couple of threads regarding this device as I was one of the first official "guinea pigs" in 2012 to use this device. So yes, maybe I know just a little bit more than you do because of all that I was a part of. Because of such, based on some of what I had read, I was looking only to hopefully help someone from possibly hurting themselves, possibly very badly. I didn't come here to be ridiculed nor picked apart because of the limited personal experience I did share. Anything I have conveyed has been MY experience, MY feelings. For ME. Not YOU. No where, no place did I tell you what to do, what not to buy or spend your money on. Your defensiveness is completely uncalled for. I would have gladly liased with anyone here, to share more, my ongoing experience(s) during the 18 months I have been using the laser. However, your argumentative attitude, sarcastic remark(s) toward me makes me glad I did not answer questions, provide any more personal experience/information than I did..I certainly have no desire to be treated with any more disrespect than I just have. And for the record, yet again, you are deceptive saying that I claimed "my skin looked pretty bad". I also only told you the truth as I knew it regarding "wrinkles", as you asked and I was being honest. Anything I conveyed in what you have quoted above was MY experience during the testing, my usage Someone else may and has had even worse experience(s) second time. Others, not. I should never have shared anything whatsoever and clearly doing so is my own fault. I wish everyone best and enjoy your device and hope you will benefit. Would loved to have shared, help others that would have been open to such but not going to put myself through any more disrespect.

SurvivedOne, I didn't see anything that harsh on Maren's post to see why you would be so upset. I will be honest, there were times that I wanted to ask you more questions and as we all appreciate your help, I felt you were condescending, especially to me. I asked you something and your reply back the second time made me feel stupid. Yes, we are all new to this and were so happy to have someone on here that would share their experience with it, not make us feel like idiots! I am only speaking for myself when I say that. I don't know how the others feel. I asked you something about when I start at the top of the zone and then get to the bottom, isn't that repeating the process? Your reply was that I just don't understand what you were saying and you were going to leave it at that. Yes, I felt stupid!!! Maybe you don't realize you come across like that, but you do. I would love to have someone on here that has used this for as long as you and get answers and help.

Sorry that you feel this way! And if I misread your post, I am sorry! Thanks for your help.

MidNight and snowball:

I've felt she was somewhat condescending, too, but was still grateful she took the time to share her experiences. I honestly think we ALL filter what someone else says through our own filters and that leads to misinterpretation of the intent. But boy, I sure wasn't attacking her --- that certainly wasn't MY intent. I wish I could have seen my face when I read her response -- my jaw was on the floor and my eyes were big as saucers! :-)

I apologize for that happening and hope she doesn't stay away and keep her opinions to herself just because she doesn't like me. I know that she does want to help and I'm sure she's helped some. I just wont' tangle with her again. :-)

Thanks for confirming my sense of her messages -- I guess we three are twisting her words in our minds. :-)

[SurvivedOne]

On 4/26/2014 islandliving said:

To SurvivedOne,

Sorry that these dialogues have gotten to where they have. I think so often the spoken word is better than text messages and emails because of the situations that may be happening around us at the time we are texting/emailing. I am sorry for your loss.

Both times I have posted on this forum after your informative helpful posts on your experience with the Tria the forums go negative and you are not able to answer my question.

Was your "bronze" look to your skin temporary? Overall did you see an improvement in areas of pigmentation?

Thank you if you are able to respond.

Thank you very much for the condolences. Much appreciated. Yes, the bronzed look is just temporary and totally normal. I only had very minor pigmentation...and a tiny bit came up and in time faded. I know many who had quite a bit and over the last 18 months has decreased significantly. So much is below the surface we can't yet see. So again, as the saying goes, results will vary.

[LuvMyBoxer]

On 4/26/2014 islandliving said:

To SurvivedOne,

I think all of the new users of the unit are looking to learn what you and anyone who has had the unit for a longer time has experienced. Thank you for sharing that with us.

I also appear to have more of a bronzed look to my skin. I do though see some speckling of pigmented areas and think they may be "breaking up". May I ask if you experienced this and did it lighten over time?

I went through the first 8 week round (I'm in the second week of my four week recovery) and I definitely had that bronzed look that you referred to. It did go away. Interestingly, my skin looked it's very best in the last week of treatment. I'm so impatient that I don't want to wait to do my second round. Ugh! I will though!

[MarenSeattle]

On 4/26/2014 SurvivedOne said:

MarrenSeattle - I am completely, totally appalled at how you have addressed me in your above post. I posted on a couple of threads regarding this device as I was one of the first official "guinea pigs" in 2012 to use this device. So yes, maybe I know just a little bit more than you do because of all that I was a part of. Because of such, based on some of what I had read, I was looking only to hopefully help someone from possibly hurting themselves, possibly very badly. I didn't come here to be ridiculed nor picked apart because of the limited personal experience I did share. Anything I have conveyed has been MY experience, MY feelings. For ME. Not YOU. No where, no place did I tell you what to do, what not to buy or spend your money on. Your defensiveness is completely uncalled for. I would have gladly liased with anyone here, to share more, my ongoing experience(s) during the 18 months I have been using the laser. However, your argumentative attitude, sarcastic remark(s) toward me makes me glad I did not answer questions, provide any more personal experience/information than I did..I certainly have no desire to be treated with any more disrespect than I just have. And for the record, yet again, you are deceptive saying that I claimed "my skin looked pretty bad". I also only told you the truth as I knew it regarding "wrinkles", as you asked and I was being honest. Anything I conveyed in what you have quoted above was MY experience during the testing, my usage Someone else may and has had even worse experience(s) second time. Others, not. I should never have shared anything whatsoever and clearly doing so is my own fault. I wish everyone best and enjoy your device and hope you will benefit. Would loved to have shared, help others that would have been open to such but not going to put myself through any more disrespect.

Whoa!

[shannara]

SurvivedOne - I, too, did not see anything in Maren's post to warrant your response to her. If that is the way you feel about it, so be it...sorry you took it that way. It looks to me like Maren took responsibility for being unclear and not remembering exactly what you had previously posted and also thanked you for posting your experience. Maren has been a great help to all of us and seems to be a very nice person with a great sense of humor. I seriously doubt she had any intentions of upsetting you.