Tip question - Page 2

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

How do any of you know she doesn't have insurance or a license to run a home business?

I believe you are making assumptions, which could be true, but not stated by the OP and therefore, unknown.

My GF does nails in her home, is fully insured and has her Town Home Business license renewed every year. It's a $30 yearly permit in her town.

As long as you renew your State stylist license, there is no regulation stating you must only work in a B&M salon.

It is NOT illegal to have a home business if you abide by the regulations in your town.

We have no way of knowing how this stylist handles her income. Let's not label her a crook hiding income to avoid her tax responsibility!

Mistreatedbycs · ‎03-10-2010

A hairdresser will lose her license if she is reported to doing hair at home.

Not a good idea to go to her home just due to health conditions.

Nail artists are not licensed professionals in any State, they can do nails at home but if it's a business, she should have a valid State issued business license but I'm sure none do.

I would feel so uncomfortable getting these type of services in someone's home. I know everyone is trying to save a buck in rent and overhead but you are protected since a business should have business insurance. If you slip and fall or have a mishap in somebody's home and they are running a business they are not supposed to be, good luck collecting anything.

RollTide2008 · ‎02-14-2017

Before I moved to where I live now, my hairdresser had a shop in her basement. She was licensed and insured and ran it like a business. It met health code but was nothing fancy.

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

@Mistreatedbycs

Oh no, In NYS you absolutely must have a license to do nails!!!

You must complete one year as a NYS Licensed Nail Trainee, complete an approved 27 Hour Nail Trainee Course of Study, pass both the New York State written and practical examinations. After your application is reviewed and accepted, you will receive an email containing information regarding the exams.

Now I am not dumb enough to believe the 'every corner' nail salons have all licensed employees, but it is the law!

My GF completed all the course work, exams etc years ago. Now she only has to pay and renew it annually. Same with hair stylists, just pay and renew every year. No new course work/exams are required any further for either position, but of course, it is to your advantage to stay up with the current trends.

And as I stated, she is fully insured AND is a registered and permitted Home Business. To renew that every year, she must provide insurance documents. Her home is also inspected at renewal time. She has restrictions as to how many clients (3) can be there are one time...it is a residential street.

She never has more than 1 in the chair....the next appt may come in as she is finishing you.

Pook · ‎03-20-2010

@RespectLife wrote:
How do any of you know she doesn't have insurance or a license to run a home business?

I believe you are making assumptions, which could be true, but not stated by the OP and therefore, unknown.

My GF does nails in her home, is fully insured and has her Town Home Business license renewed every year. It's a $30 yearly permit in her town.

As long as you renew your State stylist license, there is no regulation stating you must only work in a B&M salon.

It is NOT illegal to have a home business if you abide by the regulations in your town.

We have no way of knowing how this stylist handles her income. Let's not label her a crook hiding income to avoid her tax responsibility!

My hairdresser just recently quit her job and is working out of her home. She is charging the same amount she charged when she was in a salon. I usually give her a 20% tip. Should I continue to give her 20%? She is trying to save to open her own salon. I've always been happy with her. I go for a cut/color every four weeks. Thanks

FYI it's over $100 with tip

@RespectLife See sentence in red. She was trying to save to open her own salon. If she had her home converted to pass the strict licensing inspection for a home salon she would not need to save for one. It takes a lot to get a license to operate out of a home legally including a seperate room as well as a seperate bathroom. I had 2 uncles (one had moved his salon to his home when he got older and it wasn't cheap to do this), an aunt and cousin who were hair stylists and the person I go to now had to add a room and restroom in order to work out of her home!

RainyDayGal · ‎03-09-2010

Maybe the stylist has the room (and bathroom) set up in her home. I have a friend that has all of that and it's fine for her to do business from home.

I don't know if I would tip 20%. She is getting all of the profit now, less some expenses for supplies.

Carmie · ‎10-25-2010

@RespectLife wrote:
How do any of you know she doesn't have insurance or a license to run a home business?

I believe you are making assumptions, which could be true, but not stated by the OP and therefore, unknown.

My GF does nails in her home, is fully insured and has her Town Home Business license renewed every year. It's a $30 yearly permit in her town.

As long as you renew your State stylist license, there is no regulation stating you must only work in a B&M salon.

It is NOT illegal to have a home business if you abide by the regulations in your town.

We have no way of knowing how this stylist handles her income. Let's not label her a crook hiding income to avoid her tax responsibility!

Years ago, I had a shop in my home. It had to be inspected, and I had to have it licensed. I had to have a separate door and no one could have any services in my home. It had to be seperate even though it was attached. You were not allowed to enter the shop through my home.

The shop must be licensed and the stylists must be licensed as well. Two different things.

A hair salon is not a home business. It is okay to do hair in your home, but you are not allowed to charge customers.

I am sure your manicurist has Licensed shop. When you go in next time, she should have both of the licenses displayed in full view. The state board of PROFESSIONAL AND Occupational Affairs is responsible for this. If your shop isn't licensed, you are not able to buy liability insurance.

I still own a shop.....not in my home. The state occasionally does surprise inspections. They check for proper sanitation and even count the towels. The inspection is brutal.

I know for a fact, that a fully licensed salon and it's employees will report someone who is illegally working from home in a New York minute. And you can have your

license taken from you.

manny2 · ‎05-24-2010

She probably charges the same amount because she anticipates losing the tip, or at least some of it. It's up to you whether you want to tip or not. honestly she is making a lot more money on the service, so she should give somewhere. Maybe tip her half of what you did, so you also get a benefit.

It is illegal to run a salon in your home, but a lot of people do it. If you get hurt or slip and fall she has homeowners insurance.

50Mickey · ‎05-21-2010

The last time that I went to someone's home to have my hair done was in 1964. I was 14 and it was for a wash and set before my 8th grade graduation. No chemicals were involved. No way would I go to a private home for color. I would find another stylist until this one opens a licensed salon.

manny2 · ‎05-24-2010

It's the same stylist doing your hair, so whether it's cut or color it's going to turn out the same. My stylist sold her salon, and then worked for someone. In between that time she came to my house, and went to other customers homes. We are now back in a salon. We were all fine.