Purity - Page 2

riley1 · ‎03-10-2010

@Shanus - In this day and age, there should be a better way of testing product without the use of animals.

To have animals live in cages and be sprayed in the eye with hair spray or other products seems like abuse to me.

And, if a dog has sensitive skin to begin with and are rubbed with a lotion/cream and get worse because of their sensitivity, do they get them the medical attention they deserve?

As you can probably tell, I'm against all animal testing no matter the product.

Thankfully, we are more aware of it now than years ago and I applaud companies that are CF. I still avoid product that is CF but the parent company tests on animals.

Sunshine Kate · ‎03-10-2010

@Shanus wrote:
Just a question I've never been clear about: aren't there degrees of animal testing? If an animal is injected with chemicals, or God forbid dies because of ingredients ingested....I'm definitely against that.

On the other hand, there are cases where an animal is rubbed with a lotion to look for reactions before it can be approved for people. This doesn't "hurt" the rabbit, rat, etc. anymore than an irritation we'd get from a product that we'd react to. I'm sure an antidote is injected or another cream is used to alliviate any reactions...an injection no different than a flu shot to us.

So, how will products ever be tested if not on an animal first before being approved? I don't understand how else these newer innovations will ever come to market unless tested and FDA approved. They cannot be tested on people.

Not to belittle those who so stronger advocate no animal testing, but I'm not sure how I feel about using a new product not thoroughly tested first.

True.

I've found any cosmetic tested on animals first works better for me than a cosmetic not animal tested.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@riley1 wrote:
@Shanus - In this day and age, there should be a better way of testing product without the use of animals.

To have animals live in cages and be sprayed in the eye with hair spray or other products seems like abuse to me.

And, if a dog has sensitive skin to begin with and are rubbed with a lotion/cream and get worse because of their sensitivity, do they get them the medical attention they deserve?

As you can probably tell, I'm against all animal testing no matter the product.

Thankfully, we are more aware of it now than years ago and I applaud companies that are CF. I still avoid product that is CF but the parent company tests on animals.

@riley1 I do appreciate your stance on this subject, but I don't understand how else products can be tested for safety for/on humans. BTW, no one loves animals more than me...volunteer at our beagle resue after they were caged for experimental use years ago and then released to forever homes....broke my heart. I have to say, they were all in good health and not abused, some a little shy from being crated. That has since been outlawed.

We have a vet school nearby that used pure bred beagles for testing...small, mild mannered, no inherited diseases or weaknesses, etc. We went there and protested along with some national folks who also objected. The beagles were released and never used anymore. ***One of the vets involved in the non-invasive experimentation was DH's client, so I was able to speak to him personally to try to have this changed. During this 3 year "trial" ,only 30 minutes away, several beagles had been stolen out of yards to use. We had to keep Sadie (bred in a show kennel) inside...Molly wasn't with us yet.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@Sunshine Kate Sad to say, but many "clean beauty" products do not fall under FDA approval/regulations, like supplements and organic cosmetics and foods. You'd need to check for the "bunny" AND the FDA approval stamp.

Lipstickdiva · ‎03-10-2010

There is no excuse in this day and age to test cosmetics products on animals. There are plenty of companies that don't so why can't they all?

Of course those animals used in testing are abused. In one way or another.

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

When it comes to finding stuff which is "cruelty free", the lines are blurred.

Check out what the FDA says about it (from https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetics-labeling-claims/cruelty-freenot-tested-animals):

"Cruelty Free"/"Not Tested on Animals"

Consumers sometimes ask about use of claims such as "Cruelty-Free" or "Not Tested on Animals" on cosmetic labeling.

Some cosmetic companies promote their products with claims of this kind in their labeling or advertising. The unrestricted use of these phrases by cosmetic companies is possible because there are no legal definitions for these terms.

Some companies may apply such claims solely to their finished cosmetic products. However, these companies may rely on raw material suppliers or contract laboratories to perform any animal testing necessary to substantiate product or ingredient safety. Other cosmetic companies may rely on combinations of scientific literature, non-animal testing, raw material safety testing, or controlled human-use testing to substantiate their product safety.

Many raw materials, used in cosmetics, were tested on animals years ago when they were first introduced. A cosmetic manufacturer might only use those raw materials and base their "cruelty-free" claims on the fact that the materials or products are not "currently" tested on animals."