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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil


@Funloving wrote:

My skin prefers argan oil better than maracuja, yet with non-sensitive skin there's other oils I'd like to try. 

 

I do have a product by ACURE that's a blend of orgainic oils.  It's their Seriously Firming Facial Serum.  It claims to reduce fine lines and imperfections and facial scars.  I don't necessarily buy into their claims- although like the ACURE line and picked it up when on sale.


Hi, Fun. Hope all is well with you. I stopped using single oils when Paula's Choice came out with their blend. It has several good oils, plus some other good stuff, so I figure I'm maybe covering my bases a bit more than with just one.

 

And like others have said here, I keep my expectations low. I use the oil blend primarily for helping to seal in my moisturizer.


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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil

On its own, I much prefer argan oil - face, body, hair.  I never quite grew fond of maracuja. It did nothing for me.

 

However, as with SuzyQ3, I like the blend offered by Paula's Choice. I tend to change out many skincare products depending on the day or season, but the Booster Oil I use religiously at all times, once a day.

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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil

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Here is a link which discusses @suzyQ3's point about moisturisers as barriers of sorts, rather than moisturizers per se, if you are interested:

 

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/10/the-worlds-top-5-skin-moisturizing-oils/

 

Here is the article for those who do not like to open links:

 

The world’s top 5 skin moisturizing oils
by THE BEAUTY BRAINS


Pamela Ponders: Since the weather is getting drier, I’ve decided to look for some cuticle treatments to help them from drying. I’ve noticed that a lot of them include very similar ingredients, like jojoba oil, apricot kernel oil, shea butter, and in particular sweet almond oil and lavender oil. Do these ingredients really help to moisturize and what exactly do they do? I’ve noticed a lot of body care products emphasize shea butter. I’ve also noticed them some body lotions have coconut oil in it, is this another beneficial ingredient?

 

The Right Brain Responds:

 

All the oils you mentioned can moisturize skin – but they’re not the BEST moisturizers. What are the best, you ask? Ah, that is the question. But first you have to sit through this quick explanation:

How Oils Moisturize


Moisture evaporates from your skin by slipping though tiny cracks and fissures. Oils form a barrier layer on top of the skin that prevents the water molecules from escaping. It’s all about stopping evaporation! This property is called occlusivity and it’s measured by a rating called Transepidermal Water Loss, or TEWL. (pronounced “tool.”) The TEWL value has been measured for various oils, and the ones that have the highest rating (in other words, the ones that stop the most water from escaping your skin) are as follows:

 

1. Petroleum jelly
(in a minimum concentration of 5%, reduces TEWL by more than 98%)

2. Lanolin
3. Mineral oil
4. Dimethicone
a type of silicone

5. Coconut Oil and Others
including other oils (like coconut oil), fatty alcohols, and waxes

Some of the other oils you mentioned are still beneficial – they can make skin feel softer and smoother. But if really want to keep your skin moist, you need to reduce evaporation with one of these top 5.

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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil


@Adelina wrote:

Here is a link which discusses @suzyQ3's point about moisturisers as barriers of sorts, rather than moisturizers per se, if you are interested:

 

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/10/the-worlds-top-5-skin-moisturizing-oils/

 

Here is the article for those who do not like to open links:

 

The world’s top 5 skin moisturizing oils
by THE BEAUTY BRAINS


Pamela Ponders: Since the weather is getting drier, I’ve decided to look for some cuticle treatments to help them from drying. I’ve noticed that a lot of them include very similar ingredients, like jojoba oil, apricot kernel oil, shea butter, and in particular sweet almond oil and lavender oil. Do these ingredients really help to moisturize and what exactly do they do? I’ve noticed a lot of body care products emphasize shea butter. I’ve also noticed them some body lotions have coconut oil in it, is this another beneficial ingredient?

 

The Right Brain Responds:

 

All the oils you mentioned can moisturize skin – but they’re not the BEST moisturizers. What are the best, you ask? Ah, that is the question. But first you have to sit through this quick explanation:

How Oils Moisturize


Moisture evaporates from your skin by slipping though tiny cracks and fissures. Oils form a barrier layer on top of the skin that prevents the water molecules from escaping. It’s all about stopping evaporation! This property is called occlusivity and it’s measured by a rating called Transepidermal Water Loss, or TEWL. (pronounced “tool.”) The TEWL value has been measured for various oils, and the ones that have the highest rating (in other words, the ones that stop the most water from escaping your skin) are as follows:

 

1. Petroleum jelly
(in a minimum concentration of 5%, reduces TEWL by more than 98%)

2. Lanolin
3. Mineral oil
4. Dimethicone
a type of silicone

5. Coconut Oil and Others
including other oils (like coconut oil), fatty alcohols, and waxes

Some of the other oils you mentioned are still beneficial – they can make skin feel softer and smoother. But if really want to keep your skin moist, you need to reduce evaporation with one of these top 5.


 

Adelina, thanks you so much for sharing that article. It makes a lot of sense and confirms what I think i intuitively had understood. 

 

Although it's not an oil, adding beeswax to a body moisturizer can have the same effect. -- QVC used to broadcast segments on Surgeon's Skin Secret which they still carry online. The brand was developed by a plastic surgeon in the 1950 and it gets good reviews. The most concentrated versions are 50% beeswax. The only reason I haven't purchased it is because mineral oil is one of the ingredients. It's reasonably priced. 

 

-- bebe Smiley Happy

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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil

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@bebe777 wrote:

@Adelina wrote:

Here is a link which discusses @suzyQ3's point about moisturisers as barriers of sorts, rather than moisturizers per se, if you are interested:

 

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/10/the-worlds-top-5-skin-moisturizing-oils/

 

Here is the article for those who do not like to open links:

 

The world’s top 5 skin moisturizing oils
by THE BEAUTY BRAINS


Pamela Ponders: Since the weather is getting drier, I’ve decided to look for some cuticle treatments to help them from drying. I’ve noticed that a lot of them include very similar ingredients, like jojoba oil, apricot kernel oil, shea butter, and in particular sweet almond oil and lavender oil. Do these ingredients really help to moisturize and what exactly do they do? I’ve noticed a lot of body care products emphasize shea butter. I’ve also noticed them some body lotions have coconut oil in it, is this another beneficial ingredient?

 

The Right Brain Responds:

 

All the oils you mentioned can moisturize skin – but they’re not the BEST moisturizers. What are the best, you ask? Ah, that is the question. But first you have to sit through this quick explanation:

How Oils Moisturize


Moisture evaporates from your skin by slipping though tiny cracks and fissures. Oils form a barrier layer on top of the skin that prevents the water molecules from escaping. It’s all about stopping evaporation! This property is called occlusivity and it’s measured by a rating called Transepidermal Water Loss, or TEWL. (pronounced “tool.”) The TEWL value has been measured for various oils, and the ones that have the highest rating (in other words, the ones that stop the most water from escaping your skin) are as follows:

 

1. Petroleum jelly
(in a minimum concentration of 5%, reduces TEWL by more than 98%)

2. Lanolin
3. Mineral oil
4. Dimethicone
a type of silicone

5. Coconut Oil and Others
including other oils (like coconut oil), fatty alcohols, and waxes

Some of the other oils you mentioned are still beneficial – they can make skin feel softer and smoother. But if really want to keep your skin moist, you need to reduce evaporation with one of these top 5.


 

Adelina, thanks you so much for sharing that article. It makes a lot of sense and confirms what I think i intuitively had understood. 

 

Although it's not an oil, adding beeswax to a body moisturizer can have the same effect. -- QVC used to broadcast segments on Surgeon's Skin Secret which they still carry online. The brand was developed by a plastic surgeon in the 1950 and it gets good reviews. The most concentrated versions are 50% beeswax. The only reason I haven't purchased it is because mineral oil is one of the ingredients. It's reasonably priced. 

 

-- bebe Smiley Happy


bebe, I have't tried it, but there's a company that makes skincare products based on bee by-products (beeswax, honey, propolis, etc.) It's called Medicine Mama's Apothecary (located in Ojai, CA).

 

They presented two of their products in a special-priced kit on Evine a couple days ago -- a multipurpose balm ("Ultra Beauty Balm") and an exfoliator. On Evine, you would search for "Sweet Bee."

 

They have a very interesting website you might check out. And if you didn't want the kit on Evine, which is essentially the scrub for free, you can get 30 percent off the company's website just by signing up to join their Community (shipping is free).

 

Here are the ingredients for the Ultra Beauty Balm:

 

Organic Extra Virgin Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Organic Cera Alba (BEESWAX), Organic Honey, Melexylem™ (Honey and Propolis 28 Day Bio Fusion), Organic Sea Buckthorn Oil, Royal Jelly, Bee Pollen

 

ETA: @bebe777


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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil


@suzyQ3 wrote:

@Funloving wrote:

My skin prefers argan oil better than maracuja, yet with non-sensitive skin there's other oils I'd like to try. 

 

I do have a product by ACURE that's a blend of organic oils.  It's their Seriously Firming Facial Serum.  It claims to reduce fine lines and imperfections and facial scars.  I don't necessarily buy into their claims- although like the ACURE line and picked it up when on sale.


Hi, Fun. Hope all is well with you. I stopped using single oils when Paula's Choice came out with their blend. It has several good oils, plus some other good stuff, so I figure I'm maybe covering my bases a bit more than with just one.

 

And like others have said here, I keep my expectations low. I use the oil blend primarily for helping to seal in my moisturizer.


 Hey SQ!  Great to see you. Smiley Happy  Seems like a long time since I've perused the forum.

 

I was looking into Paula's Choice Resist Moisture Renewal Oil Booster not long ago. Paula's rationale on mixing ingredients (in this case oils)  just makes sense. I see her oil blend also contains ceramide-2 at the bottom of the deck.

 

I must say PC products never disappoint and are still reasonable for what you get.  I've been using her 8% AHA gel from the very beginning, then added BHA and PC's Clinical 1% Retinol Treatment during colder months.  Her Vit C is very good too.  I decided to use NCN's for the addition of MAP which has added benefits of stabilizing and penetration according to Truth in Aging.

 

All of this to say, I'm sure I'll be trying her oil booster once I get through this bottle of ACURE.  PB pays close attention to oils that can potentially irritate the skin,  concentrating on those with anti-inflammatory properties.  Thanks for reminding me of this one.

 

Hope all is well in your neck of the woods!

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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil

[ Edited ]

@suzyQ3 wrote:

@bebe777 wrote:

@Adelina wrote:

Here is a link which discusses @suzyQ3's point about moisturisers as barriers of sorts, rather than moisturizers per se, if you are interested:

 

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/10/the-worlds-top-5-skin-moisturizing-oils/

 

Here is the article for those who do not like to open links:

 

The world’s top 5 skin moisturizing oils
by THE BEAUTY BRAINS


Pamela Ponders: Since the weather is getting drier, I’ve decided to look for some cuticle treatments to help them from drying. I’ve noticed that a lot of them include very similar ingredients, like jojoba oil, apricot kernel oil, shea butter, and in particular sweet almond oil and lavender oil. Do these ingredients really help to moisturize and what exactly do they do? I’ve noticed a lot of body care products emphasize shea butter. I’ve also noticed them some body lotions have coconut oil in it, is this another beneficial ingredient?

 

The Right Brain Responds:

 

All the oils you mentioned can moisturize skin – but they’re not the BEST moisturizers. What are the best, you ask? Ah, that is the question. But first you have to sit through this quick explanation:

How Oils Moisturize


Moisture evaporates from your skin by slipping though tiny cracks and fissures. Oils form a barrier layer on top of the skin that prevents the water molecules from escaping. It’s all about stopping evaporation! This property is called occlusivity and it’s measured by a rating called Transepidermal Water Loss, or TEWL. (pronounced “tool.”) The TEWL value has been measured for various oils, and the ones that have the highest rating (in other words, the ones that stop the most water from escaping your skin) are as follows:

 

1. Petroleum jelly
(in a minimum concentration of 5%, reduces TEWL by more than 98%)

2. Lanolin
3. Mineral oil
4. Dimethicone
a type of silicone

5. Coconut Oil and Others
including other oils (like coconut oil), fatty alcohols, and waxes

Some of the other oils you mentioned are still beneficial – they can make skin feel softer and smoother. But if really want to keep your skin moist, you need to reduce evaporation with one of these top 5.


 

Adelina, thanks you so much for sharing that article. It makes a lot of sense and confirms what I think i intuitively had understood. 

 

Although it's not an oil, adding beeswax to a body moisturizer can have the same effect. -- QVC used to broadcast segments on Surgeon's Skin Secret which they still carry online. The brand was developed by a plastic surgeon in the 1950 and it gets good reviews. The most concentrated versions are 50% beeswax. The only reason I haven't purchased it is because mineral oil is one of the ingredients. It's reasonably priced. 

 

-- bebe Smiley Happy


bebe, I have't tried it, but there's a company that makes skincare products based on bee by-products (beeswax, honey, propolis, etc.) It's called Medicine Mama's Apothecary (located in Ojai, CA).

 

They presented two of their products in a special-priced kit on Evine a couple days ago -- a multipurpose balm ("Ultra Beauty Balm") and an exfoliator. On Evine, you would search for "Sweet Bee."

 

They have a very interesting website you might check out. And if you didn't want the kit on Evine, which is essentially the scrub for free, you can get 30 percent off the company's website just by signing up to join their Community (shipping is free).

 

Here are the ingredients for the Ultra Beauty Balm:

 

Organic Extra Virgin Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Organic Cera Alba (BEESWAX), Organic Honey, Melexylem™ (Honey and Propolis 28 Day Bio Fusion), Organic Sea Buckthorn Oil, Royal Jelly, Bee Pollen

 

ETA: @bebe777


 

@suzyQ3 thanks for sharing that information. I was listening to the Sweet Bee presentation on evine a few days back but I didn't pay much attention because what they said was very general. 

 

Thanks you for the ingredients listing because it's impressive. I really like that they use Organic olive oil because that tells me they respect their ingredients. So many beauty products just use regular olive oil and non-organic olive trees are very heavily sprayed with pesticides (which I don't want on my skin). I like that beeswax in the second ingredient in the product listing. 

 

I will definitely check them out. Thanks again!! 

 

-- bebe Smiley Happy

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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil

I couldn't use the Maracuja oil.  It was extremely irritating to my skin.  I'm in my 60's and love, Argan oil.  I use it under my eyes and all over my face & neck.  .  I've been using the JM argan oil for about 9 months now. I wasn't expecting any "results" except softer skin.  I have really dry, sensitive skin and was tired of trying things that were crazy expensive, broke me out or made my skin red.  Over these months I have seen some subtle changes. I've had a line on the left side of my nose for many years.  I was looking closely the other day and it's gone!.  My neck looks good and the wrinkles have definetly softened.  I tried the other brand of argan that is recommended often on the boards and I like it as well.  It takes so little it lasts forever.  I'm also loving JM's sunscreen.  I'm just using the oil & suncreen and not having so much stuff around and how fast I'm done is really making me happy.

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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil

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@bebe777

 

I'm glad you found the info interesting. One correction: The discount promo if you sign up is 35 percent off, not 30 percent as I had posted.

 

Oh, and yes, I thought the presentation was not super helpful. I felt a bit bad for the company's owner when she had to stop the model from using water with the balm.


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Re: Pluses or minuses for argan vs. maracuja oil


@suzyQ3 wrote:

@bebe777

 

I'm glad you found the info interesting. One correction: The discount promo if you sign up is 35 percent off, not 30 percent as I has posted.

 

Oh, and yes, I thought the presentation was not super helpful. I felt a bit bad for the company's owner when she had to stop the model from using water with the balm.


@suzyQ3 thanks for that confirmation. I've been working all week long and so I was just listening to some evine shows that looked interesting in the background. I thought that maybe I just hadn't listened closely enough. 

 

Thanks also for the update on the promo discount. A bigger discount is always a plus. Smiley Happy

 

-- bebe Smiley Happy