Beauty

[Bubby Mommy]

I used to buy a lot of Philosophy products, but then I learned they are not animal cruelty free.  Their "neat corporate response" is: "They are animal crulety free except where required by law."  Well, they are produced in Asia where they ARE required by law to do animal testing on their products.  This issue is very important to me.  There is no need to test on animals when there are many alternate means of testing that do not require hurting helpless animals.  I make it an absolute practice for myself to check every company that makes beauty products.  I have stopped buying Philosophy products a long time ago, and I always make sure any items I buy get the leaping bunny thumbs up label. 

[Venezia]

@Bubby Mommy - If it's important to you, perhaps you should update your information.  (And then you can amend your thread title.)

TORONTO, April 5, 2023 /CNW/ - The iconic beauty brand philosophy is now part of the Cruelty Free International Leaping Bunny Programme. Cruelty Free International, is a global not-for-profit organization working to create a world where no-one wants or feels the need to test on animals.

As part of this programme, all philosophy products are now Leaping Bunny approved, giving philosophy consumers the highest assurance that the brand has made a genuine commitment to help end animal testing in cosmetics. To receive Cruelty Free International Leaping Bunny approval, a brand must meet strict global criteria and extend beyond laws governing animal testing. It is the global gold standard for assessing cruelty free cosmetics and personal care products. This approval includes checking a brand's supply chain for adherence to the Leaping Bunny criteria and demands regular ongoing independent audits.

Receiving the Cruelty Free International Leaping Bunny approval is a natural extension of the brand's values and reflects Coty's continued commitment to reducing the impact of its products and operations.

[fingerlakesny]

Philosophy just started this. However, Cody owns this brand and they still do animal testing on alot of their lines. A company has to be totally cruelty free on all products for me to buy.

[Venezia]

Philosophy did not just start this.  Christina Carlino was committed to cruelty-free products from the start.

It was only when Coty bought Philosophy that the conflict arose.  They chose to expand the market into China.  However, even China has relaxed its laws on animal testing for certain products.

If someone is truly concerned, s(he) needs to make sure information is up-to-date and accurate.

(Check out the Leaping Bunny website, if you want the latest information.)

[ellaphant]

The products are loaded w chemicals. No thanks.

[Bubby Mommy]

The mother company, Coty, is also not animal cruelty free.  Therefore I stand by my assertion.  Philosophy can try to sneak out of the animal cruety label, but it's just a sad game.  They won't get a penny from me. 

[Glitter51]

@Bubby Mommy - you act like that you're being forced to buy philosophy products. No one is making you buy these products, so just move on. 

[MG Chris]

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@Glitter51 wrote:

@Bubby Mommy - you act like that you're being forced to buy philosophy products. No one is making you buy these products, so just move on. 

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^this^  it is the Josie and Comfrey all over agin. 

[marmarbrooklyn]

@Bubby Mommy 

Good mornng ! I use only cruelty free products. According to the website Ethical Elephant  

Are cosmetics ‘Made in China’ required to be tested on animal

No. If a company manufactures its cosmetics in China, it does not mean they are required to test on animals.

In fact, since 2014, general cosmetics that are manufactured and sold in China do not require pre-market animal testing if reliable safety assessment reports are provided.

Animal tests are required for some cosmetics that are imported and sold in China.

If Philosophy products are made in CHina , there is a good chance they are crulety free . I stopped using them years ago ,long before I went cruelty free (10 years ) . After Christina left the quality of the fragrances ( Baby Grace my fav) went downhill I felt .

[Sugipine]

'Cruelty free' is not all that clear cut when it comes to cosmetics. Some ingredients used in cosmetics are or have been used in animal testing and are included as an ingredient in a finished cosmetic which has been labeled 'cruelty free'. It's almost impossible to know which of the thousands of cosmetic ingredients are truly cruelty free. 

FDA says this about it:

"Cruelty Free"/"Not Tested on Animals"

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Consumers sometimes ask about use of claims such as "Cruelty-Free" or "Not Tested on Animals" on cosmetic labeling.

Some cosmetic companies promote their products with claims of this kind in their labeling or advertising. The unrestricted use of these phrases by cosmetic companies is possible because there are no legal definitions for these terms.

Some companies may apply such claims solely to their finished cosmetic products. However, these companies may rely on raw material suppliers or contract laboratories to perform any animal testing necessary to substantiate product or ingredient safety. Other cosmetic companies may rely on combinations of scientific literature, non-animal testing, raw material safety testing, or controlled human-use testing to substantiate their product safety.

Many raw materials, used in cosmetics, were tested on animals years ago when they were first introduced. A cosmetic manufacturer might only use those raw materials and base their "cruelty-free" claims on the fact that the materials or products are not "currently" tested on animals.