Beauty

[MarieIG]

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@Nadine wrote:

Irshgrl what do you recommend for dry sensitive skin > I used Isomers for years and then everything in the line caused a reaction, Red peeling areas. At the moment I'm using a couple of Perricone products at night and Tula during the day. I really think my skini is just not doing as well as it should with the money I spend. I'm also in my seventies but still want to take care of my skin. Not giving up yet. thanks for your time and it's so great to see recommendations from someone who isn't going to profit from them.

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I find this interesting.  I used to love everything Isomers but several years back my skin became more sensitive to it:  a burning sensation to a number of products which I never had before.  I wondered if it was the change in the preservative?

[noodleann]

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@cactusjack wrote:

Why does she give most of his products such a scathing review yet it gets pretty good reviews from his customers, including other sites, not just here on qvc?

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I have said it before on this board, and I'll say it again:

Paula doesn't review products.

Paula B. reviews ingredient decks. Paula B. reviews packaging.

Huge difference.

IMO she's not qualified to judge on the interactions of the ingredients, the effects of the ingredient mix on the stability of individual ingredients, etc. She's putting her theories out as solid conclusions, and the experiences of people who are actually testing the products are contradicting her theories. That's why there's a discrepancy between her reviews and actual use. If those reviews don't invalidate her conclusions, they at least raise significant questions about her rating methodology.

Combinations of ingredients matter. The right combination could obviate stability or potency problems individual ingredients could have in jars vs. pump containers. What studies has she done on this? None that I know of.

Actual products and actual use matters. Unless and until Paula/her rating site does the homework and TESTS the products, I consider her reviews questionable at best. The fact that her reviews for her own products--always stellar--are also on the site is unethical, but that's another issue.

[Harpa]

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@noodleann wrote:

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@cactusjack wrote:

Why does she give most of his products such a scathing review yet it gets pretty good reviews from his customers, including other sites, not just here on qvc?

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I have said it before on this board, and I'll say it again:

Paula doesn't review products.

Paula B. reviews ingredient decks. Paula B. reviews packaging.

Huge difference.

IMO she's not qualified to judge on the interactions of the ingredients, the effects of the ingredient mix on the stability of individual ingredients, etc. She's putting her theories out as solid conclusions, and the experiences of people who are actually testing the products are contradicting her theories. That's why there's a discrepancy between her reviews and actual use. If those reviews don't invalidate her conclusions, they at least raise significant questions about her rating methodology.

Combinations of ingredients matter. The right combination could obviate stability or potency problems individual ingredients could have in jars vs. pump containers. What studies has she done on this? None that I know of.

Actual products and actual use matters. Unless and until Paula/her rating site does the homework and TESTS the products, I consider her reviews questionable at best. The fact that her reviews for her own products--always stellar--are also on the site is unethical, but that's another issue.

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@noodleann

This is really a very good clarification!

Actually, I am thinking along the same lines with the issues and the journals that @Irshgrl31201 mentioned.

I was trying to look things up from these resources, but I didn't get too far.

Apparently, however, there is little or no correlation to internal health, and so where all those studies start and end, I am not sure, but I am dubious.

(@Irshgrl31201 What I really wanted to look into more is the claim that [supposed] damage is done to the skin underneath the surface from specific essential oils (and which ones) that one [supposedly] cannot detect outwardly; how the "damage" is eventually realized, and what specific treatment/s counteract it.) 

I know this is a bit of a rabbit trail, but I did like @noodleann's response on "theory" v. actual use. Actual use, apparently, will be different from one person to another insofar as internal health is concerned. The state of one's internal health (I am only guessing) will reflect on one's outward skin health, and (I am still only guessing) one's tolerance of certain ingredients.

If "skin damage" has not surfaced in years and years, and one is happy with what one is using, I see no reason why they need to change, unless they, themselves want the exploration.

[Nadine]

My skin is so weird so I just thought it was me but I agree something has changed in their formula.

[depglass]

I'm one that has not been exactly thrilled with Paula's products, so I tend to ignore her and go by my own experience. 

[Porcelain]

Anyone can become sensitive to any ingredient. Just happens sometimes. But certain ingredients do have more people who become sensitive to them. Paula B is right about most of the ingredients she calls out for this. But that doesn't mean everyone should totally avoid the products that contain them or that the products deserve bad grades. Just be aware.

Certain ingredients do start to go bad as soon as they have contact with air or light. Anti oxidants like vitamin C have to be protected via packaging, molecular engineering, encapsulation, or all the above. Retinol too. But others, equally active, don't go bad quickly from air or light. They'll stay active for as long as indicated by the use by info on the label.

Certain ingredients are known to make the skin more sensitive to sunlight, increasing damage under the skin's surface during the day. That is fact. You gradually see the results over time through aging, reactivity, or discoloration or worse. Retinol and the Apha Hydroxy acids leave the skin much more reactive to and unprotected from sunlight. So just sitting by the window or going for a walk without protection can undo all the antiaging you did last night. That's why I don't use them.

Skincare companies do far too little to educate us on how to use their products safely. That really bothers me. They need to be more responsible.

[Irshgrl31201]

Hey I haven't forgot about those who have asked questions about products. We are down at the beach and preparing for the hurricane before we leave and getting the house as hurricane ready as it can be before we leave  tomorrow, so we have spent the last day and a half doing that. I will respond when we get back home. Just didn't want you to think I forgot you!

[Nadine]

Thanks for the update, Stay safe!