Beauty

[Sugipine]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Sugipine wrote:

While parabens may be a topic of much debate, it is only one of many petrochemicals that seems to be the most popular of them all. Some of the other petrochemicals, imo, deserve a closer look and this will again start wildfires in the world of skincare.

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Parabens are not petrochemicals.

And petrochemicals have undergone scrutiny for quite some time now. Still no evidence that those used in personal products are in any way harmful.

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This is not correct. Parabens are derived from petroleum. They ARE a petrochemical.

[HappyDaze]

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@Sugipine wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Sugipine wrote:

While parabens may be a topic of much debate, it is only one of many petrochemicals that seems to be the most popular of them all. Some of the other petrochemicals, imo, deserve a closer look and this will again start wildfires in the world of skincare.

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Parabens are not petrochemicals.

And petrochemicals have undergone scrutiny for quite some time now. Still no evidence that those used in personal products are in any way harmful.

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This is not correct. Parabens are derived from petroleum. They ARE a petrochemical.

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That is not my understanding of parabens. Can you please point me to where you are getting this information?

[Shelbelle]

I agree, from what I have read parabens are NOT petro chemicals.

[Sugipine]

@HappyDaze,

Anything that contains the prefix  ethyl, methyl, propyl are are petroleum derivatives. It's organic chemistry 101.

[suzyQ3]

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@Sugipine wrote:

@HappyDaze,

Anything that contains the prefix  ethyl, methyl, propyl are are petroleum derivatives. It's organic chemistry 101.

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I have checked out "parabens" and also chose "methylparben" and cannot find any credible evidence that they are derived from petrochemicals. A couple of "natural" sites seem to conflate them, but that's all. The Wiki page for both says nothing about petrochemicals.

[Sugipine]

The word "petrochemical" simply means a chemical that has been produced from crude oil (petroleum).  Ethyl, methy, propyl are derived from the distillation process  of complicated esters used to make the gases needed to formulate their corresponding esterification compounds. Applied organic chemistry is a little complicated. But I happen to understand it because of my degree in chemistry. 

[suzyQ3]

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@Sugipine wrote:

The word "petrochemical" simply means a chemical that has been produced from crude oil (petroleum).  Ethyl, methy, propyl are derived from the distillation process  of complicated esters used to make the gases needed to formulate their corresponding esterification compounds. Applied organic chemistry is a little complicated. But I happen to understand it because of my degree in chemistry. 

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Please site your source that states that parabens are petrochemicals. I stated mine that said nothing about methylparaben being derived from petroleum.

[HappyDaze]

@Sugipine I also have a background in science. I, again, kindly ask you to provide the info as to where it states that parabens are petrochemicals. The way I understand the chemical makeup of parabens they are not petrochemicals. I will certainly change my stance if you can provide the info as I have no problem correcting myself.

[Sugipine]

Google : list of cosmetic petrochemicals.

As I mentioned earlier, the mere fact that the prefixes methyl, ethyl, and proply appear in front of the word paraben is self-explanatory that it has its origins in the petroleum group of chemicals. I don't know what more needs to be explained here. 

[HappyDaze]

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@Sugipine wrote:

Google : list of cosmetic petrochemicals.

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I've actually read many scientific studies and info from nih and other fact based sites regarding parabens so I am not going by some random, non legit sites stating they are. I know you are smart and appreciate your posts and would really like you to share legitimate sites and not simply ask me to google it and I'm a bit disappointed that this is your answer to a truly sincere request as I really want to make sure my understanding is correct. You know Google brings up much misinformation.

I have a feeling this is a fruitless discussion so I won't ask you anymore. So, for now,  I will stand by my conclusion that parabens are not petrochemicals. It's all good.