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02-09-2017 08:36 PM
02-09-2017 09:44 PM
@SilleeMee wrote:This might help:
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Methyl_4-hydroxybenzoate#section=Top
How does your link show that parabens are petrochemicals?
02-09-2017 10:04 PM - edited 02-09-2017 10:06 PM
I personally dont care about parabens/petrochemicals LOL but I guess depending on which article one reads can see several stating a correlation Quote: FYI: Interestingly, parabens naturally occur in some plant foods, such as strawberries, currants, vanilla, carrots, onions and barley. However, there is a substantial difference between the type of parabens found in certain plant foods and cosmetics. The type found in cosmetics is synthetically produced and is derived from petrochemicals.
Dont know if this is true though but interesting anyway.
One of the sources http://www.davidsuzuki.org/issues/health/science/toxics/chemicals-in-your-cosmetics---parabens/
Shrugs! saw in 2 articles but I am no chemical guru LOL then boggles my brain as to why they list them seperately? Oh Im going to go watch TV or my brain may get constipated thinking LOL
02-09-2017 10:19 PM
@suzyQ3 wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:Anything that contains the prefix ethyl, methyl, propyl are are petroleum derivatives. It's organic chemistry 101.
I have checked out "parabens" and also chose "methylparben" and cannot find any credible evidence that they are derived from petrochemicals. A couple of "natural" sites seem to conflate them, but that's all. The Wiki page for both says nothing about petrochemicals.
@suzyQ3 - I agree with your opinion. (And, for what it's worth, I also have a degree in science - biology - and I worked my way through college as an assistant in the science department for a number of professors, including the chemistry professors.)
Methylparaben is a naturally occurring chemical, which is generally considered safe and doesn't accumulate in the body. There is also a synthetically produced version. I suppose that could be considered a "petrochemical". I don't know what studies have been done on the toxicity effects of that.
I take things like toxic chemicals seriously, but I figure I'm more likely to be taken out by a nuclear bomb in the next few years. Just sayin'.
02-09-2017 10:29 PM
I'm not here to teach organic chemistry. The information in the link I provided is what I have based my previous statements on. It was asked of me to provide something credible. Understanding the information is up to those who read it. And besides, I'm not a good teacher anyway.![]()
02-09-2017 10:41 PM
@SilleeMee wrote:I'm not here to teach organic chemistry. The information in the link I provided is what I have based my previous statements on. It was asked of me to provide something credible. Understanding the information is up to those who read it. And besides, I'm not a good teacher anyway.
@SilleeMee - Which is fine, but even the link you provided states quite clearly that Methylparaben is not considered toxic and it also lists natural sources of it. No mention of petrochemicals that I could see. So I'm not sure what made you reach the conclusion you did or how much of the information in that link you actually read.
However, we'll leave it at that, shall we? Have a good evening.
02-09-2017 10:55 PM - edited 02-09-2017 10:56 PM
The link clearly states that methylparaben is a compound that contains a benzene ring. Benzene comes from the petrochemical industry.
Have a good night.![]()
02-10-2017 12:22 AM
02-10-2017 02:45 AM
Stimulating discussion and done with candor and respect. I will just go with what I see as my take away: I will not panic if I see a paraben listed as an ingredient. I also share concerns about what
I hear from Josie, which is not much since I stopped watching her presentations (and not because of her beauty or clothes, etc.). I use argon oil, but I pay a lot less for mine. This type of informative, thoughtful discussion started me on this forum and keeps me coming back. Thank you @ChynnaBlue @itiswhatitis @SilleeMee @HappyDaze and others.
02-10-2017 10:27 AM - edited 02-10-2017 10:27 AM
@Jk9 wrote:Stimulating discussion and done with candor and respect. I will just go with what I see as my take away: I will not panic if I see a paraben listed as an ingredient. I also share concerns about what
I hear from Josie, which is not much since I stopped watching her presentations (and not because of her beauty or clothes, etc.). I use argon oil, but I pay a lot less for mine. This type of informative, thoughtful discussion started me on this forum and keeps me coming back. Thank you @ChynnaBlue @itiswhatitis @SilleeMee @HappyDaze and others.
@Jk9 sound decision imo! Personally I don't go out of my way to avoid them but would prefer to not have a bunch of them in the products I use. If I like two products equally as well and one has them and the other doesn't I tend to favor the ones that don't. Just a personal preference.
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