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[Annabellethecat66]

So sad what drugs do to people and their families. It is like when a pebble is thrown and skips over the water. The ripple affect continues. It doesn't just affect the person, or the person's family but those who knew the person and so on.

You find yourself thinking of what could have been.

Addiction runs in my family. My daughter was just telling me this week that she was going to have 'the talk' with her children (they're 11, 10 and 7). In our family 'the talk' isn't about s&x, it's about addiction and how we all have the genes. We even say we got our share of addiction genes and the addiction genes that would have gone to others.

My youngest daughter lives in Colorado. Marijuana is now legal there. It is a joke really because in most jobs they check to make sure you aren't smoking it. She said the police don't have the ability to check to test people who are out driving in the streets. She said she's seen people driving like they're drunk when they're probably on pot.

I know that some say it doesn't lead to addiction of other drugs. I am not a Dr and don't know. In our family we warn that it isn't wise to use anything like that.

As someone who has had several family members die from addiction and some close to me who struggle with addiction every day, I feel so sorry to that young man's family.

It made me sick the way people were outside of the church trying to see the celebrities, snapping pictures of the children. Just terrible!

[ForTheLuv]

On 2/4/2014 MarenSeattle said:

On 2/4/2014 ForTheLuv said:

On 2/4/2014 Lucky Charm said:

No legalization to me would mean every other person around me and mine would be stoned, high, crazy, stupid, whatever you want to call it.

Re: the money involved in imprisoning ..... Tax me to death, I don't care.

You are very ignorant. People can get it NOW...whenever they want. Helloooo!!! So whether or not it is legal, the people who CHOOSE to try it or do it or whatever...WILL. It does not matter if it is legal or not. Come on. It is absurd to say that just because it is now legal that your "mines" would now start using if they had no desire to before.

I agree. I used drugs for 25 years, and legality was the LEAST of my concerns.

I disagree that Lucky Charm is "ignorant". She's entitled to her own opinion, as are we.

It is not about an "opinion". It is about being IGNORANT. YES...she IS ignorant. That means that she does not know ANYTHING about drug addiction. Neither she, nor anyone she knows has been through it and she clearly has an intolerance due to her ignorance.

[ForTheLuv]

On 2/4/2014 Lucky Charm said:

On 2/4/2014 ForTheLuv said:

On 2/4/2014 Lucky Charm said:.

I don't fault her in any way if she feared for their children and possibly her life.

There is usually a danger living with someone addicted to drugs or alcohol. I'm sure it was the best thing to do.

At the risk of sounding cold, I am going to say this anyways, a drug addicted person is not to be trusted around children. Whether a parent, a grandparent, a sibling....children need protection.

It is VERY apparent that you are more than ignorant and have absolutely NO CLUE what you are talking about. I can say with certainty that not "every addict" cannot be trusted around children. Yes they need protection, but come on. You are LABELING and generalizing. You are watching your words and not saying what you really feel, as it is apparent what your feelings are. You are ignorant, plain and simple. Do not judge others when you haven't a clue what they go through or those around them. You lump everyone into one big "stoned" category of losers who "cannot be trusted". There are many different levels of drug addiction and not everyone is going to sell their kids to the crack house. OK.

I'm not even going to respond to you other than to say you are ignorant.

Aren't you clever. Do some research and get a clue.

[ForTheLuv]

On 2/4/2014 tdog said:

I feel for PSH. I also hate the way famous people have all the gory details of their deaths plastered all over the news. It must be doubly devastating for their loved ones to have to deal with not only the death but the indignity of having personal details out for all the world to know. It is none of our business what he looked like when he was found. Hoffman must have gone on a terrible binge in the last few weeks of his life. I have only known one heroin addict in my life and he has been clean and sober for many years now. I pray that he never relapses, but there is always that fear in the back of your mind. He has a great support system, and maybe Phillip did not or just was too out of control to seek help again. People who have never done drugs can not comprehend how anyone could become addicted and just have no empathy. In a perfect world none of us would do stupid or dangerous things, or feel a need for drugs or alcohol, but we don't live in a perfect world, for sure.

Why anyone would even speculate that this was INTENTIONAL is another issue. An overdose is usually always an ACCIDENT. Nobody can assume that he overdosed himself on purpose because he was depressed or couldn't cope. He just did too much and it killed him. (But not to contradict myself, it COULD be a suicide too) The point is...don't assume.

[ForTheLuv]

On 2/7/2014 Thebig I said:

Dr Drew is a horrible Dr, period. There is a very effective harm reduction treatment available to heroin or pain opiate addicts that literally saves lifes. Dr Drew is against it, because it is a "drug". He is pious little Hollywood twit. He sets back treatment for all addicts.

Saves lives at what COST??? He is not a twit. Anyone trying to save lives and treat addicts must realize that it is counterproductive to replace one drug with another. Methadone and suboxone are DRUGS and can be abused as well. There are plenty of addicts who have a much HARDER time coming off of these so-called life-saving drugs that replaced their street drugs. It is a vicious cycle. He has every right and SENSE to not want to introduce someone to those "treatments".

[ForTheLuv]

On 2/7/2014 TRUE said:

On 2/7/2014 Thebig I said:

Dr Drew is a horrible Dr, period. There is a very effective harm reduction treatment available to heroin or pain opiate addicts that literally saves lifes. Dr Drew is against it, because it is a "drug". He is pious little Hollywood twit. He sets back treatment for all addicts.

Oh my I'm soooooo glad someone agrees with me. He has had so many in his "reality rehab" that have died. He is all EGO all he cares about is his fame. Some of his "patients" are on housewives.....all media w h o r e s.....including him. He acts very feminine to me and squeamish for a Doctor .... it just nauseates me when he shivers and quivers all he wants is fame I think he should go to rehab for HIS issues......and he has panic attacks. Whew I've wanted to vent about him for so long.

So what he has panic attacks? AND??? That makes him a fame w h o r e or not a good doctor? You make NO sense. Some of his "patients" are on the housewives?? You sound so stupid and have some really moronic ideas. Jennifer is Brandi's friend and that is the only reason she is on the show. Either way, what difference would it make if someone was on both shows??? It is called CELEBRITY rehab isn't it??? I do not think he has sold out or is about the fame. But I don't know him either. I just do not feel that he is that bad when he cares enough to say NO to celebrities who get whatever they want. He is trying to HELP.

[Venus Envy]

On 2/4/2014 Lucky Charm said:

No legalization to me would mean every other person around me and mine would be stoned, high, crazy, stupid, whatever you want to call it.

Re: the money involved in imprisoning ..... Tax me to death, I don't care.

Lucky Charm, there are many people who feel the same way you do. Portugal legalized drugs in 2001 because they had terrible problems. Their drug usage statistics are much, much lower now. They were able to somehow provide better treatment programs etc. Our country needs to stop treating addiction as a criminal problem and focus on better education and proper treatment that can be available to more people. Prisons don't treatment and drugs are readily available.

[Venus Envy]

Prisons don't provide treatment. Sorry I missed a word.

[Ibby114]

On 2/8/2014 ForTheLuv said:

On 2/7/2014 TRUE said:

On 2/7/2014 Thebig I said:

Dr Drew is a horrible Dr, period. There is a very effective harm reduction treatment available to heroin or pain opiate addicts that literally saves lifes. Dr Drew is against it, because it is a "drug". He is pious little Hollywood twit. He sets back treatment for all addicts.

Oh my I'm soooooo glad someone agrees with me. He has had so many in his "reality rehab" that have died. He is all EGO all he cares about is his fame. Some of his "patients" are on housewives.....all media w h o r e s.....including him. He acts very feminine to me and squeamish for a Doctor .... it just nauseates me when he shivers and quivers all he wants is fame I think he should go to rehab for HIS issues......and he has panic attacks. Whew I've wanted to vent about him for so long.

So what he has panic attacks? AND??? That makes him a fame w h o r e or not a good doctor? You make NO sense. Some of his "patients" are on the housewives?? You sound so stupid and have some really moronic ideas. Jennifer is Brandi's friend and that is the only reason she is on the show. Either way, what difference would it make if someone was on both shows??? It is called CELEBRITY rehab isn't it??? I do not think he has sold out or is about the fame. But I don't know him either. I just do not feel that he is that bad when he cares enough to say NO to celebrities who get whatever they want. He is trying to HELP.

That only depicts the reality of addiction- just look at the many many more that have had success and thrived! To suggest he had something to do with their passing is irresponsible.

[jeanlake]

Hi virginsun. I get what you are saying. Even though we rise above childhood pain we remember the pain, hurt and chaos. Wonderful people get caught up in addiction darkness that negatively impact so many innocent people. The addicts are the ones who hold the key to health and freedom. It's been over 35 years, but I still remember my drunk dad at my college graduation. Maybe that's why I didn't attend my master's graduation... I think so. My older brother was ready to step in and give me away at my wedding if my dad didn't sober up after the rehearsal. Eventually dad was able to gain victory and freedom over his addictions and demons of PTSD from WW2, but wow, what a horrible impact on my family until that time. He went to rehab 3 times. My son told me in his early 20s that he can't drink. Once he starts, he can't stop. Thankfully, he made a life choice not to drink.

I can't criticize Dr. Drew. He's done more good than bad and he has such an understanding and heart for victims of addiction.