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When I read the OPs, there seem to be all kinds of confusion about what to use, how to use, when to use, when to mix, how to mix, etc. GR vs. QVC?

Caring for your hair (or anything else) shouldn't be so complicated. I first started back in the day when Pumpkin was the seasonal...I have tried other seasonals and other formulations, but all this constant experimenting is getting expensive and annoying. Some work, some don't.

Plus some seem to work better in humid weather, some better in dry.

This reminds me of the issues with the Roma 2 bags. "Train them", condition them, then some handles crack, some are smeared...too complicated for a bag!

I use WEN exclusively - and I like it better than my Aveda products I used to use...but this is getting obsessive and strange. Just my opinion.

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You know you're on an online forum that is entirely dedicated to the discussion of this product, right? What do you expect people here to be talking about? {#emotions_dlg.confused1}

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On 6/26/2014 WenGirl42 said:

You know you're on an online forum that is entirely dedicated to the discussion of this product, right? What do you expect people here to be talking about? {#emotions_dlg.confused1}

My issue is that NO ONE seems to have the magic formula.

Everyone is questioning what to do, what to use, etc.

I don't understand why cleaning your hair can't be more simple. Especially since I have tried new formulas, only to have to return them - a waste, IMO.

Chaz gives suggestions that appear in the descriptions - but often they don't work correctly as indicated. I'm not the only one with these issues - many posts seem to be searching for some kind of a Holy Grail of a system.

Again, that's just my opinion.

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I still don't understand what your point is (I think I was responding to your "obsessive and strange" comment initially). If you have a process or a CC or combination that works for you consistently, great. Use it. I do Smile But of course as new scents and products come out, or as people are introduced to the line for the first time, people are going to be trying new things and wanting to discuss working them into their routine...given the nature of online discussion forums in general and the explicit topic of this one in particular. There are millions of contented WEN users worldwide who are happy using what they use and aren't here talking about it.

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On 6/26/2014 terrier3 said:

When I read the OPs, there seem to be all kinds of confusion about what to use, how to use, when to use, when to mix, how to mix, etc. GR vs. QVC?

Caring for your hair (or anything else) shouldn't be so complicated. I first started back in the day when Pumpkin was the seasonal...I have tried other seasonals and other formulations, but all this constant experimenting is getting expensive and annoying. Some work, some don't.

Plus some seem to work better in humid weather, some better in dry.

This reminds me of the issues with the Roma 2 bags. "Train them", condition them, then some handles crack, some are smeared...too complicated for a bag!

I use WEN exclusively - and I like it better than my Aveda products I used to use...but this is getting obsessive and strange. Just my opinion.

This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to verbally bash or discourage anyone who uses WEN, but...if something as simple as cleaning your hair is becoming a tiresome and expensive chore, it might be time to try something else or maybe just go back to shampoo and conditioner. I know that many people said that WEN works great for them and maybe it does, but shampoos and conditioners are not going anywhere and not all shampoos/conditioners are bad.

I use Nick Chavez' Traditions Yucca shampoo and conditioner. My hair is not screaming at me for not using a cleansing conditioner only. My hair loves it. If you find that using a hair care routine in becoming a chore and expensive, then it might be time to move on from it.

And WEN ladies, please don't be angry at me for saying this. Again, I'm not verbally bashing or trying to turn people away from WEN. But if something as simple as cleaning your hair is turning into an expensive and bothersome task for some...can't really blame them for not wanting to do it anymore. Shampoo and conditioner isn't going anywhere and it doesn't make everyone's hair a mess. If that were the case, Chaz Dean would be a trillionaire and every other salon would've been out of business by now.

~Nick Chavez is my favorite vendor on QVC and Alberti Popaj is my favorite QVC host.~
Nick Chavez now has his own sub-forum under the My Favorite Brand folder
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I think it's just fun to share what works for each of us..I know I have changed what I do based on what I read here that worked for someone with similar hair and sometimes it helps and sometimes I just learn that that particular tip/suggestion isn't for me. That's the fun of it. I think the moment someone becomes stressed out they simply won't do it anymore.

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Yup- I actually agree with NC Bandwagon - why don't you just try something else??

Returning stuff is a waste- welcome to the waste land!!

So if you find you are doing that too much then it is time for a change.

For myself I cannot ever imagine using any other product but WEN and I have never returned anything!!

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On 6/26/2014 WenGirl42 said:

I still don't understand what your point is (I think I was responding to your "obsessive and strange" comment initially). If you have a process or a CC or combination that works for you consistently, great. Use it. I do Smile But of course as new scents and products come out, or as people are introduced to the line for the first time, people are going to be trying new things and wanting to discuss working them into their routine...given the nature of online discussion forums in general and the explicit topic of this one in particular. There are millions of contented WEN users worldwide who are happy using what they use and aren't here talking about it.

My problem was the best CCs for me were Pumpkin, VWM and Fall Apple...no longer available.

If I knew at the time, I would have stocked up. I suggested some of the most popular seasonals should return for encores and I got ripped...told that isn't what Chaz likes to do and I was being SELFISH for wanting MY favorites to return.

But constantly changing formulas and looking for my initial success is tiring and wasteful.

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I just stick with the basics and I have great results.

I am not tempted by the seasonals at all.

I don't know where the confusion lies???

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I've had to change up my exercise routine because I am no longer getting the results I once did. Or certain allergy medications don't have the same effect this year as they did in times past. Bottom line, lots of variables can change results that once worked. Our hair is no different. It's nice to have other people's opinion.