Beauty

[febe1]

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@surfk wrote:

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@lobstergal wrote:

At least his prices aren't exorbitant and he offers some serious good deals. Unlike hosts that push you during the holidays (which seems to be year round here) to buy your kids school bus driver a Vitamix and the lady who washes your hair at the salon a Dooney and stock your gift closet with Philosophy, IT Cosmetics, Malley, a few Dennis Basso's fur coats, Logo and Quacker, some Luminara candles....oh and not to forget a Bose or an iPad air for anyone who may show up unexpectedly! 

Sorry I don't know how I could've forgotten the latest SwagWay, WEN and Susan Graver. And please don't forget to get everyone on your list a MyPillow!

WAIT! I totally forgot about the outdoor smoker and LeCrueset cookware for my neighbors!

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I don't agree. Cumulatively, he is asking people to spend far more than a piece of Le Creuset (which will last you a lifetime, by the way). for creams that really one could find in any drug store or Walmart.

Sure, perhaps no one item is off the charts in price. But he doesn't ask nor expect a customer to buy only one item. He barely describes the first item before linking it quickly to a second and third and fourth "vital" item as to make the first item work. lol

He (and most cosmetics, especially skin care items) are allllll about the upsell or selling or attaching another 10 items to the first for one to "achieve the results one is seeking" (and the profits he wishes to make).

The lotion-potion creams industry as a whole is a bit of a Mr. Elixir's side show thing anyway.

The best skin I ever saw on any older lady was due to cleansing with a gentle inexpensive cleansing soap and them applying simple Vaseline overnight.

All the rest is a pandering to those seeking a Fountain of Youth. I have not met a wrinkly, skin damaged, aging-skinned woman who didn't look her age. And if she were to admit to spending the thousands of dollars of which many do to look that way, well, I would feel for them.

The only real results might come from some light dermabrasion perhaps. And healthy living, staying out of sun, good hydration (drinking water), not smoking...oh and GENETICS play a far bigger part it in than some overpriced goo in overpriced packaging.

And "systems" are just code for up$ell, up$ell, up$ell. Nineteen steps to looking your age - but a bit shinier? I don't think so.

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I agreed with Dimitri when he said lately he never heard an aged woman say she regretted spending all that money on skin care.

[Andreatoo]

He insults the models and makes ridiculous claims like 'silicone makes your hair slide out of the follicle' ?! When Kendy asked what the specialist he quoted was he told her to look it up on google!

I'm not a fan of his skincare but I liked his cosmetics. He finally lost me completely when a caller asked for recommendations for a 13 or 14 year old girl and he suggested Creme Reverse...WTF?! I was expecting 'a good cleanser and sunscreen' but NOOOOO!

[surfk]

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@febe1 wrote:

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@surfk wrote:

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@lobstergal wrote:

At least his prices aren't exorbitant and he offers some serious good deals. Unlike hosts that push you during the holidays (which seems to be year round here) to buy your kids school bus driver a Vitamix and the lady who washes your hair at the salon a Dooney and stock your gift closet with Philosophy, IT Cosmetics, Malley, a few Dennis Basso's fur coats, Logo and Quacker, some Luminara candles....oh and not to forget a Bose or an iPad air for anyone who may show up unexpectedly! 

Sorry I don't know how I could've forgotten the latest SwagWay, WEN and Susan Graver. And please don't forget to get everyone on your list a MyPillow!

WAIT! I totally forgot about the outdoor smoker and LeCrueset cookware for my neighbors!

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I don't agree. Cumulatively, he is asking people to spend far more than a piece of Le Creuset (which will last you a lifetime, by the way). for creams that really one could find in any drug store or Walmart.

Sure, perhaps no one item is off the charts in price. But he doesn't ask nor expect a customer to buy only one item. He barely describes the first item before linking it quickly to a second and third and fourth "vital" item as to make the first item work. lol

He (and most cosmetics, especially skin care items) are allllll about the upsell or selling or attaching another 10 items to the first for one to "achieve the results one is seeking" (and the profits he wishes to make).

The lotion-potion creams industry as a whole is a bit of a Mr. Elixir's side show thing anyway.

The best skin I ever saw on any older lady was due to cleansing with a gentle inexpensive cleansing soap and them applying simple Vaseline overnight.

All the rest is a pandering to those seeking a Fountain of Youth. I have not met a wrinkly, skin damaged, aging-skinned woman who didn't look her age. And if she were to admit to spending the thousands of dollars of which many do to look that way, well, I would feel for them.

The only real results might come from some light dermabrasion perhaps. And healthy living, staying out of sun, good hydration (drinking water), not smoking...oh and GENETICS play a far bigger part it in than some overpriced goo in overpriced packaging.

And "systems" are just code for up$ell, up$ell, up$ell. Nineteen steps to looking your age - but a bit shinier? I don't think so.

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I agreed with Dimitri when he said lately he never heard an aged woman say she regretted spending all that money on skin care.

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lol. Well, there is such as thing as "consider the source". I wouldn't expect the seller of a skin cream product or cosmetics line to say anything less. lol

But you really can't truthfully agree with his "observation" though, can you?

First, if any product truly worked, the vendor would sell that product and then you'd never see him or her again selling 1001 other variations on it. The skincare market is endless. Few companies have "the answer". And some, even when they do, CHANGE the formula as to have something more to sell (I think of Lancome).

Second, if no "aged" woman (does she live in a shoe or is she the Crone of Crag Mountain???) ever regretted all she spends on creams and other cosmetics, I'd suggest she look around and ask what's with the thousands of dollars of product many people have (the "aged" and the young, too, quite frankly) which often fills bathroom cabinets and drawers and is strewn all about one's vanity table or counters.

Obviously, most people continue to buy into promises and new formulae as they pursue youth and beauty. Its an Achilles Heel for millions of people. And its a huge industry which takes advantage of that very basic desire.

I mean, when the lipstick industry alone makes 2-3 billion dollars annually, you know that women aren't always satisfied with the exact shade they just spent $25-75 on.

Most bathrooms look like graveyards of cosmetics and lotions as people find out none of them are truly the fix or the answer.

But we're vain creatures and so the carousel continues to spin 'round. Always has, always will.

If one can't be in pharmaceuticals or a meth cartel, I suppose sellling cosmetics is the next best -and easiest way to making trillion$$$$.

[surfk]

13-14?? Keep out of the sun, stay healthy, keep your skin clean...and just pinch your cheeks should they start to lose their natural blush. lol

Reverse cream??? lol

I imagine he'd send a 6 year old to bed with an overnight face mask (and perhaps a hair net, as well).

But the "look it up on Google" is a ridiculous reply to a basic and essential question. Especially when he's given only about 16 hours at a time on air to present his products.

Maybe HE should look it up on Google since usually people who tell you to do that don't know the answer themselves.

He ought to know his spiel and the details of his product by heart by now.

And if his products work so well, why has he had so much work done for a man his age who claims that his products make people look younger??? I mean, that alone is revealing.

[Krissy_1968]

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@surfk wrote:

13-14?? Keep out of the sun, stay healthy, keep your skin clean...and just pinch your cheeks should they start to lose their natural blush. lol

Reverse cream??? lol

I imagine he's send a 6 year old to bed with an overnight face mask (and perhaps a hair net, as well).

But the "look it up on Google" is a ridiculous reply to a basic and essential question. Especially when he's given only about 16 hours at a time on air to present his products.

Maybe HE should look it up on Google since usually people who tell you to do that don't know the answer themselves.

He ought to know his spiel and the details of his product by heart by now.

And if his products work so well, why has he had so much work done for a man his age who claims that his products make people look younger??? I mean, that alone is revealing.

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Well, it has obviously been a long time since you were 13 or 14...pinch your cheeks? bwhahaha now that made me laugh...I have seen Dimitri recommend his cleansers and his essense for younger women ( and the younger women I know wear PLENTY of makeup and need good cleansers!) He offers 2 sunscreens,one chemical and one mineral along with his eye shades which I would offer up to any younger woman (and older too!) 

and was it me by chance you refer to in that "look it up on google" crack? well I mentioned it on another topic regarding Renovage because I am not about to start posting pages of links and information about that particular ingredient by Sederma (or Neodermyl that Paula has just discovered but Isomers has had for a while, or the dreaded hydroquinone which is BANNED for good reason in many countries) I know Dimitri has a long list of products he must discuss in each slotted hour, and usually the newer ones and TTV's are highlighted...I seriously doubt he requires google to discuss his formulations or the ingredients n them...

As far as the claims of plastic surgery, please do share your sources on that one...I would agree he may have had peels, botox, even fillers as well as hair plugs but to claim someone has had plastic surgery with no proof is bordering on slanderous...I mean, he is definitely not Dr Denese (who admitted it after time)

[febe1]

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@surfk wrote:

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@febe1 wrote:

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@surfk wrote:

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@lobstergal wrote:

At least his prices aren't exorbitant and he offers some serious good deals. Unlike hosts that push you during the holidays (which seems to be year round here) to buy your kids school bus driver a Vitamix and the lady who washes your hair at the salon a Dooney and stock your gift closet with Philosophy, IT Cosmetics, Malley, a few Dennis Basso's fur coats, Logo and Quacker, some Luminara candles....oh and not to forget a Bose or an iPad air for anyone who may show up unexpectedly! 

Sorry I don't know how I could've forgotten the latest SwagWay, WEN and Susan Graver. And please don't forget to get everyone on your list a MyPillow!

WAIT! I totally forgot about the outdoor smoker and LeCrueset cookware for my neighbors!

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I don't agree. Cumulatively, he is asking people to spend far more than a piece of Le Creuset (which will last you a lifetime, by the way). for creams that really one could find in any drug store or Walmart.

Sure, perhaps no one item is off the charts in price. But he doesn't ask nor expect a customer to buy only one item. He barely describes the first item before linking it quickly to a second and third and fourth "vital" item as to make the first item work. lol

He (and most cosmetics, especially skin care items) are allllll about the upsell or selling or attaching another 10 items to the first for one to "achieve the results one is seeking" (and the profits he wishes to make).

The lotion-potion creams industry as a whole is a bit of a Mr. Elixir's side show thing anyway.

The best skin I ever saw on any older lady was due to cleansing with a gentle inexpensive cleansing soap and them applying simple Vaseline overnight.

All the rest is a pandering to those seeking a Fountain of Youth. I have not met a wrinkly, skin damaged, aging-skinned woman who didn't look her age. And if she were to admit to spending the thousands of dollars of which many do to look that way, well, I would feel for them.

The only real results might come from some light dermabrasion perhaps. And healthy living, staying out of sun, good hydration (drinking water), not smoking...oh and GENETICS play a far bigger part it in than some overpriced goo in overpriced packaging.

And "systems" are just code for up$ell, up$ell, up$ell. Nineteen steps to looking your age - but a bit shinier? I don't think so.

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I agreed with Dimitri when he said lately he never heard an aged woman say she regretted spending all that money on skin care.

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lol. Well, there is such as thing as "consider the source". I wouldn't expect the seller of a skin cream product or cosmetics line to say anything less. lol

But you really can't truthfully agree with his "observation" though, can you?

First, if any product truly worked, the vendor would sell that product and then you'd never see him or her again selling 1001 other variations on it. The skincare market is endless. Few companies have "the answer". And some, even when they do, CHANGE the formula as to have something more to sell (I think of Lancome).

Second, if no "aged" woman (does she live in a shoe or is she the Crone of Crag Mountain???) ever regretted all she spends on creams and other cosmetics, I'd suggest she look around and ask what's with the thousands of dollars of product many people have (the "aged" and the young, too, quite frankly) which often fills bathroom cabinets and drawers and is strewn all about one's vanity table or counters.

Obviously, most people continue to buy into promises and new formulae as they pursue youth and beauty. Its an Achilles Heel for millions of people. And its a huge industry which takes advantage of that very basic desire.

I mean, when the lipstick industry alone makes 2-3 billion dollars annually, you know that women aren't always satisfied with the exact shade they just spent $25-75 on.

Most bathrooms look like graveyards of cosmetics and lotions as people find out none of them are truly the fix or the answer.

But we're vain creatures and so the carousel continues to spin 'round. Always has, always will.

If one can't be in pharmaceuticals or a meth cartel, I suppose sellling cosmetics is the next best -and easiest way to making trillion$$$$.

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I'm talking about good skin care not cosmetics, and it involves more than a jar of vaseline.

[surfk]

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@Krissy_1968 wrote:

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@surfk wrote:

13-14?? Keep out of the sun, stay healthy, keep your skin clean...and just pinch your cheeks should they start to lose their natural blush. lol

Reverse cream??? lol

I imagine he's send a 6 year old to bed with an overnight face mask (and perhaps a hair net, as well).

But the "look it up on Google" is a ridiculous reply to a basic and essential question. Especially when he's given only about 16 hours at a time on air to present his products.

Maybe HE should look it up on Google since usually people who tell you to do that don't know the answer themselves.

He ought to know his spiel and the details of his product by heart by now.

And if his products work so well, why has he had so much work done for a man his age who claims that his products make people look younger??? I mean, that alone is revealing.

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Well, it has obviously been a long time since you were 13 or 14...pinch your cheeks? bwhahaha now that made me laugh...I have seen Dimitri recommend his cleansers and his essense for younger women ( and the younger women I know wear PLENTY of makeup and need good cleansers!) He offers 2 sunscreens,one chemical and one mineral along with his eye shades which I would offer up to any younger woman (and older too!) 

and was it me by chance you refer to in that "look it up on google" crack? well I mentioned it on another topic regarding Renovage because I am not about to start posting pages of links and information about that particular ingredient by Sederma (or Neodermyl that Paula has just discovered but Isomers has had for a while, or the dreaded hydroquinone which is BANNED for good reason in many countries) I know Dimitri has a long list of products he must discuss in each slotted hour, and usually the newer ones and TTV's are highlighted...I seriously doubt he requires google to discuss his formulations or the ingredients n them...

As far as the claims of plastic surgery, please do share your sources on that one...I would agree he may have had peels, botox, even fillers as well as hair plugs but to claim someone has had plastic surgery with no proof is bordering on slanderous...I mean, he is definitely not Dr Denese (who admitted it after time)

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No. The "look it up on google" remark was a comment about his saying that to a show host when she asked about details of his testing. It was mentioned in an earlier posting here (please read it) by andreatoo. It had nothing to do with you.

And the problem is when kids start on makeup too soon or too young. A touch of lipgloss is all a 13 year old may need really. Keep the skin healthy, clean, free of suntan - and youth really does the rest.

Save the pancake makeup for days when you're trying to look 13 again. lol

[lobstergal]

First let me say that my post above was meant to be somewhat cheeky and I thought that was obvious..... apparently not.

I've tried many skin care lines from high end, low end and everything in between and nothing has worked as well for me as some of Dimitri's products. I only buy what I can afford and if I do try something new that doesn't work for me, I send it back. I don't claim to look 10 years younger, but I can say with confidence that since I started using Skinn a year ago, I no longer have breakouts, my desert dry, flakey skin is more smooth and clear than its been in years. There have been no noticeable new lines or wrinkles on my face in the past year despite the pain and stress I endure on a daily basis....believe me, I check constantly in my 10x mag mirror!

Bottom line is use common sense and do what you feel is best for you. :-) 💄☺

ETA....I don't have a huge arsonal of products - cleansers, Enriched Skin Softening Essence, serum, DermAppeal, face cream, an oil, lip serum & balm and a few other items from a kit that I haven't tried yet. More is not always better! 

[Jordan2]

I'm buying the TTV for the new capsules in it. I'm buying only 1. If it were up to Dimitri I would buy 12!  I don't know about you but I can't afford to  spend $10000 on this. Also the other products must last more than a month. You would be overflowing with skincare products.

[sharlee]

Well,  I ordered the DWP kit in order to try the capsules.  If they truly turn out to be a game-changer for my skin, I can afford the $129 if they're really that good.

But I will need to see some serious results!  I'm already pretty happy with the BotaniLift line.

As for Dimitri, I like his energy and enthusiasm.  And if I don't want to buy more than one of anything - I don't!  All the vendors and all the networks have their own varieties of sales pressure.