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08-28-2021 10:47 PM
Tonght Amy was presenting some Chocolate nail polishes. They apparently even smell like chocolate. She put one of each color on her nails. The next product was a nail polish remover that was in a jar with a sponge inside. You stick your finger in the jar with the sponge, rotate a few times, and pull out and your nail polish is gone. I have had something like that before, so no big deal. But, when Amy did it, it took off the nail polish she had just put on, supposedly dry, but her nails were still perfectly done unerneath. How is this? I thought nail polish remover would still mar gel nails. I have worn the gel nails before that you used the light to cure and you used an acetone remover. You had to soak them for a long time, but I would expect it to at least mar the surface. Am I wrong?
BTW, I wore fake nails for years and they didn't damage my nails as much as those gel nails did, so I don't do that anymore, besides the amount of time soaking them off every week. Luckily, they recovered.
08-29-2021 12:27 AM
@Icegoddess Many eons ago I also had that gizmo that you stick your finger in and it removed the polish. Had completely forgotten that!
08-29-2021 01:00 AM
I tried to buy it, but I live in California and for some reason they will not ship it to me here.
08-29-2021 03:59 AM
my mom has gel & even rubbing alcohol ruins the finish![]()
08-29-2021 04:53 AM
@Icegoddess First, Amy only applied one coat of polish, without additional base and/or top coat. In a polish formulated to dry quickly, it's not going to take long before you can tap up and down on it like she does. But that doesn't mean it's completely dry. Even if fully dry, a single layer of creme polish is going to remove FAR more quickly than the normal multiple layers of dry polish.
Secondly, Any's nails are likely hard gel, which is designed to be filed off. In any case, a single brief exposere to even acetone based remover (long enought to remove a single layer of not completely cured creme polish) likely isn't going to leave noticeable damage.
The primary ingredient in this remover is MEK. I have very minimal chemistry knowledge, but it's likely that this would effect how the gel nails would be affected.
@Bonzomom The reason you can't order it in California is that MEK has been prohibited for many years.
What "nail" knowledge I've accumulated over the years is mainly from Doug Schoon, an internationally known chemist who has spent decades studying and developing nail related products. I've also followed numerous nail techs and others in the field. The general consensus seems to be that the education received in most nail tech programs is focused very much on topics such as sanitation that are part of the licensing exam. They typically receive minmal (and up-to-date) training as far are proper use of products. @Icegoddess , this could well be part of the reason you had so much damage from gel nails. From what I've learned from the actual experts, both gel and acrylic enhancements should cause minimal damage when applied and removed properly.
08-29-2021 01:34 PM
@juperier3 Acrylic!! That's what I used to have years ago. You never removed them. You just filed the thickness down and then added more to fill in where they grew out. But I still never got any damage from them once I quit doing it and let them grow out. I even did them myself for awhile, but decided I was just too hard on my hands to keep them. I'd rather do yard work than try to keep nice nails.
The gel ones I'm referring to are the Red Carpet style gel nails that you use a UV light to cure, which dries them. The sales pitch is how much time they save, but the time you save at the beginning you end up wasting a week or so later when you need to remove them. The reason my nails got so damaged was becuase I decided to just let them grow out like I did the acrylics. Growing the acrylics out didn't damage my nails, but growing the gels out did. Plus, you have to use almost pure acetone to get them off and there's really no way to do it without soaking your entire fingertip.
Also, as I read the CA law as posted here earlier, the reason they won't ship to CA is not because it has what CA has deemed a carcinogin, it's because they don't label it with a warning label that reads however CA wants it to read.
08-29-2021 02:13 PM
Years ago, I had CND Shellac polish put on my nails. (it was cured under a light). I could polish over it with regular polish then remove the polish with non acetone. (I used the sponge in the jar) After that, I'd have the original Shellac polish. The Shellac polish was removed by using Shellac foil wrap removers. (not nearly as long as soaking acrylic nails)
08-31-2021 08:58 PM
@Icegoddess wrote:Tonght Amy was presenting some Chocolate nail polishes. They apparently even smell like chocolate. She put one of each color on her nails. The next product was a nail polish remover that was in a jar with a sponge inside. You stick your finger in the jar with the sponge, rotate a few times, and pull out and your nail polish is gone. I have had something like that before, so no big deal. But, when Amy did it, it took off the nail polish she had just put on, supposedly dry, but her nails were still perfectly done unerneath. How is this? I thought nail polish remover would still mar gel nails. I have worn the gel nails before that you used the light to cure and you used an acetone remover. You had to soak them for a long time, but I would expect it to at least mar the surface. Am I wrong?
BTW, I wore fake nails for years and they didn't damage my nails as much as those gel nails did, so I don't do that anymore, besides the amount of time soaking them off every week. Luckily, they recovered.
If you have a "dip manicure," nail polish remover will not remove regular polish. "Dip" is a fairly new type of manicure where they use a special base then you dip your finger in a little pot of dip color. It's repeated a few times then a special top coat sealer/shiner is put on. Your nails hold up pretty well for about 3 weeks. You can see the regrowth, though, but your natural nails underneath grow out quite well. To remove the dip polish, you need to literally soak/saturate your nails in acetone and they're usually wrapped in small pieces of foil to soak for a while. Once off, your natural nails are quite thin and very fragile. So that's why her nails still looked good after she swished in the remover - she must've had a dip manicure!
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