Beauty

[Shanus]

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@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

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@Alison Wonderland  Well here’s the part that really got me p.o’d. Half way through the “process”, she said she had finished the 1st training...the 2 day course. That was it. She was not informed enough to deal w/ Devacurl, IMO to call herself a Devacurl stylist....but for $20 & thank God I didn’t let her do a cut (would have looked like it was done w/ a lawn mower, I’m sure)....chalk it up to false advertising. Definitely NOT a Deva salon!

[BarbiHollywood]

As a curly girl living in the humidity of Florida, I can relate to wanting perfect curls.  I don't have it, unfortunately, and I can't let my hair grow long enough because I get frustrated and end up getting it cut.  My entire 53 years I've never had long hair.  Wanted it, just never let myself have it.  Sometimes I wonder if I were able to find a stylist who KNOWS how and what to do with my kind of hair (coarse) I'd be happy.  I have enough of an issue trying to find a stylist who KNOWS how to cut short hair.  After two years of going to the same salon and coming out mad at myself for paying an unnecessarily expensive bill for what I left the salon looking like, I am trying a new place tomorrow.  It's a horrible feeling to know you spent a ton of money in the hopes of your hair looking great only to end up unhappy with the results.

[ItsME]

@Shanus ....  I don't have a good product to recommend, but just want to say that I never use my dryer on high heat.  I think you can use a diffuser effectively ... and safely ... on a non-damaging low or medium heat.  It will still move air through your hair and get it dry.  

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser?

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[Shanus]

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@ItsMEwrote:

@Shanus ....  I don't have a good product to recommend, but just want to say that I never use my dryer on high heat.  I think you can use a diffuser effectively ... and safely ... on a non-damaging low or medium heat.  It will still move air through your hair and get it dry.  

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser?

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@ItsME  Oh definitely have always used low heat and low speed of air flow. Just assumed a heat protectant wouldn’t hurt...most are full of silicones and quite drying to hair.

[Shanus]

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@BarbiHollywoodwrote:

As a curly girl living in the humidity of Florida, I can relate to wanting perfect curls.  I don't have it, unfortunately, and I can't let my hair grow long enough because I get frustrated and end up getting it cut.  My entire 53 years I've never had long hair.  Wanted it, just never let myself have it.  Sometimes I wonder if I were able to find a stylist who KNOWS how and what to do with my kind of hair (coarse) I'd be happy.  I have enough of an issue trying to find a stylist who KNOWS how to cut short hair.  After two years of going to the same salon and coming out mad at myself for paying an unnecessarily expensive bill for what I left the salon looking like, I am trying a new place tomorrow.  It's a horrible feeling to know you spent a ton of money in the hopes of your hair looking great only to end up unhappy with the results.

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@BarbiHollywood  Oh please. I hear ya! I’ve kept my curlies in a pixie...long or short pixie for many years looking for a good stylist.

The one I found that helped me transition to my white/silver hair, does a great hair cut....if I want to wear it straight. Most stylists see curly hair & have no idea what to do. The first day this woman saw my hair her 1st comment was,”Have you ever thought of wearing it straight?” Every one has always blown it out w/ the round brush. 

Luckliy, mine are looser curls & conditioned enough so minimal frizz. I just go w/ them using the round brush...my curls come back next washing. Just got tired of short hair & on my way to medium length bob w/ long bangs pushed over to the side. I’ve taken the photo to stylist & threatened her not to cut off anything except bangs and a few whisps if a split end...I try to do that myself to keep her scissors away. 

My hair appts. with her now are mainly deep conditioning and a toner to keep my hair white & I pay and run before she suggests taking off length.

[Alison Wonderland]

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@Shanuswrote:

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@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

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@Alison Wonderland  Well here’s the part that really got me p.o’d. Half way through the “process”, she said she had finished the 1st training...the 2 day course. That was it. She was not informed enough to deal w/ Devacurl, IMO to call herself a Devacurl stylist....but for $20 & thank God I didn’t let her do a cut (would have looked like it was done w/ a lawn mower, I’m sure)....chalk it up to false advertising. Definitely NOT a Deva salon!

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My advice to anyone scheduling a DevaCut is to visit the Devachan website and use their Find a stylist option. It will list salons near you who have Deva trained stylists AND it displays their level of training. Then I'd call the salon to verify, because they're responsible for updating their own data on the site, so a salon may list a Jackie as a L3 stylist and Jackie may have moved to another city.

[Shanus]

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@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

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@Shanuswrote:

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@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

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@Alison Wonderland  Well here’s the part that really got me p.o’d. Half way through the “process”, she said she had finished the 1st training...the 2 day course. That was it. She was not informed enough to deal w/ Devacurl, IMO to call herself a Devacurl stylist....but for $20 & thank God I didn’t let her do a cut (would have looked like it was done w/ a lawn mower, I’m sure)....chalk it up to false advertising. Definitely NOT a Deva salon!

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My advice to anyone scheduling a DevaCut is to visit the Devachan website and use their Find a stylist option. It will list salons near you who have Deva trained stylists AND it displays their level of training. Then I'd call the salon to verify, because they're responsible for updating their own data on the site, so a salon may list a Jackie as a L3 stylist and Jackie may have moved to another city.

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@Alison Wonderland  You’re absolutely right. This salon was listed under Devachan “find a salon near you”. When I called, they said they were a Devacurl Salon....in actuality, 1 stylist out of 6 was modestly trained & they sold hundreds of Devacurl products.

[Love to read]

I grew up in Florida with curly hair and I was just a big friz ball most of the time.  I moved to the midwest many years ago when I married and told my husband that I was in "hair heaven".  My hair behaves so much better up here where the heat and humidity are only a few months of the year.  I do keep my very curly silver hair quite short now, but have found the best product for me is Nick Chavez's Diva Glitzy Style Glaze.  It helps my curls keep their shape, adds shine, AND is not sticky or stiff.  It's the best styling product I've ever used and a little goes a long way.

[Ibby114]

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@Shanuswrote:

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@Ibby114wrote:

@ShanusWith Deva styling products- less is best! I also hate that feeling of 'stuff' in my hair.  I really like the Devacurl Styling Cream.   I apply it when my hair is jsut washed- and scrunch it throughout my wet hair.  But again- less is better!

Sounds like the hairstylist wasn't the best in general- sorry you had to go through that. Sephora will give you tester  samples of several styling products- try them!

What drug store styling products do you use?

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@Ibby114. Good morning. I’m mostly using Shea Moisture S&C and their deep conditioner twice a week. I don’t think there’s much difference in performance between the scents. Styling products I use either Garnier Fructis Gel or mousse (for curly hair), Shea Moisture Spray Leave in Cond. for second day hair.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser? Devacurl products supossedly all have heat protectant built in. My curl/hair is fine, but lots of it....the oils seem to weigh it down. Thanks.

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@ShanusBy mentioning 'Shea Moisture S&C' - do you mean their curl and shine line?  I'm a big fan of the Shea Moisture items I've tried- their curly hair products primarily The deep conditioner I used is their Shea Butter variety.

I rarely use a dryer on my hair- hopefully others can chime in about heat protection/diffuser.

[Shanus]

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@Ibby114wrote:

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@Shanuswrote:

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@Ibby114wrote:

@ShanusWith Deva styling products- less is best! I also hate that feeling of 'stuff' in my hair.  I really like the Devacurl Styling Cream.   I apply it when my hair is jsut washed- and scrunch it throughout my wet hair.  But again- less is better!

Sounds like the hairstylist wasn't the best in general- sorry you had to go through that. Sephora will give you tester  samples of several styling products- try them!

What drug store styling products do you use?

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@Ibby114. Good morning. I’m mostly using Shea Moisture S&C and their deep conditioner twice a week. I don’t think there’s much difference in performance between the scents. Styling products I use either Garnier Fructis Gel or mousse (for curly hair), Shea Moisture Spray Leave in Cond. for second day hair.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser? Devacurl products supossedly all have heat protectant built in. My curl/hair is fine, but lots of it....the oils seem to weigh it down. Thanks.

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@ShanusBy mentioning 'Shea Moisture S&C' - do you mean their curl and shine line?  I'm a big fan of the Shea Moisture items I've tried- their curly hair products primarily The deep conditioner I used is their Shea Butter variety.

I rarely use a dryer on my hair- hopefully others can chime in about heat protection/diffuser.

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@Ibby114  Yes I use their curl products. I found them accidentally years ago. I was frustrated in products available for curly hair and wandered over to the black women’s hair products.....That’s where I look first now.