Beauty

[smoochy]

I believe the marketing strategy is to have the best looking person rep the product line. Hence we will infer that we can look like that person if we use the products. Even if women are looking at a vendor who's had lifts and procedures, I think most will subconsciously believe that they can achieve that look by purchasing. Especially if the rep states they personally use the products. I'm talking in general, not referring to anyone in particular. Would it prevent me from buying? Yes on the basis that I don't like that tactic. 

[chrystaltree]

• It doesn't bother me.  I'm an adult, I understand there are limits to what topical face products can do and women with cosmetic and skincare lines need to look their best to sell their products.  Some will have facelifts, fillers etc etc.  Same with the models they use.  I buy products for the benefits I expect to get on my skin.  I have not had any medical cosmetic work or treatments but when the time comes that I feel I need it, I will not hesitate.

[ALRATIBA]

Unless that "person" is named Avon, Ulta or Walgreen's, I'm not buying anything from them.

[Desertdi]

Sure....you still need to take care of your SKIN, whether or not it has been "lifted".

[nyc1]

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@MG Chris wrote:

I would have no problem. There is no cream or potion that is going to lift, tuck, remove wrinkles or tighten.  Knowing it is about keeping my skin in good condition. 

I get lasers, RF micro needling, chemical peels, Botox and fillers. My esthetician tells me the condition of my skin is excellent. Just by looking at my skin she knows I have a good skin routine. I had a clear lift laser done this week. I guess the laser  snaps when it hits weak or poor areas. The machine barely snapped on my face. She commented that she was begining to think something was wrong with the machine because she had so much snapping lately. She said I proved the machine was working correctly.

my point is that even if they had a face lift if they don't use good products and take care of their skin  the facelift will not continue to look good

@MG Chris   I agree with you regarding the maintenance of your skin.  I have had nothing done at all.  I do maintain a very good routine to take care of my skin,  morning and night with good products.

Would you be able to tell me what the different procedures you mention above do for your skin and your looks?  Are the laser treatments for any dark spots,  the needling and peels for skin quality and the botox and fillers for the lifting and filling?    Do you go to the same salon for all of them?  Thanks for any comments. 

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[Mindy D]

I would be fine with purchasing products from someone that has had surgery or injections as long as the seller does not falsely claim that the entire reason they look the way they do is solely from the products they are selling. 

[MG Chris]

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@nyc1 wrote:

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@MG Chris wrote:

I would have no problem. There is no cream or potion that is going to lift, tuck, remove wrinkles or tighten.  Knowing it is about keeping my skin in good condition. 

I get lasers, RF micro needling, chemical peels, Botox and fillers. My esthetician tells me the condition of my skin is excellent. Just by looking at my skin she knows I have a good skin routine. I had a clear lift laser done this week. I guess the laser  snaps when it hits weak or poor areas. The machine barely snapped on my face. She commented that she was begining to think something was wrong with the machine because she had so much snapping lately. She said I proved the machine was working correctly.

my point is that even if they had a face lift if they don't use good products and take care of their skin  the facelift will not continue to look good

@MG Chris   I agree with you regarding the maintenance of your skin.  I have had nothing done at all.  I do maintain a very good routine to take care of my skin,  morning and night with good products.

Would you be able to tell me what the different procedures you mention above do for your skin and your looks?  Are the laser treatments for any dark spots,  the needling and peels for skin quality and the botox and fillers for the lifting and filling?    Do you go to the same salon for all of them?  Thanks for any comments. 

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I never had a skin care regimen nor used sunscreen and I smoked. I lived in the south for over 15 years and baked A LOT. I lived in the pool all day just baking and used tanning beds. I had a lot of sagging, sunspots and unfortunately skin cancer. 

I have had three rounds of Fraxel laser that was supposed to help with lifting and tightening. It did get rid of sunspots and helped with broken capillaries. I then moved onto RF micro needling, I did three rounds and saw some improvement in tightening and skin texture.

My esthetician called me one day and she wasn't seeing results with the plasma pen and so she gave me a free treatment since she felt people didn't have good skincare and that perhaps was the problem. I saw a bit of tightening but she decided to drop the plasma pen since the results weren't paying off for the $1,000 price tag. 

then she called me she got a new machine, Clear Lift face lift laser and wanted to see if I saw results so she gave me a freebie. I saw nice results so I bought a package of three. Then she said she would love it if I mixed in some RF micro needling. So I bought a package of three. I go every two weeks one week the Clear lift and two weeks later RF micro needling. I am really seeing nice results. The difference is amazing, is it the same as a face lift, no but I am pleased. I just finished up my last clear lift and have one micro needling left. I have a high pain tolerance so they are able to really get in there and work my face and neck over and I believe this has really helped me get good results. 

I haven't had any fillers or Botox for awhile. The lasers and RF mitigate them. Once I am done i will evaluate if I still need fillers for lifting and volume. I will get some Botox to help prevent further wrinkles from forming. I do go to the same place. I love my esthetician. I have had fillers, Botox, and the Fraxel at a local Dermatologist but I did not care for their office. 

I hope this helps🥰

[Jk9]

I don't think having a face lift has anything to do with skin care products.  Skin care products only do so much, surgery does more.   I don't see it as dishonest at all.   

[Iwantcoffee]

Yes, the way my skin responds to a product has nothing to do with how anyone else looks. I buy based the product and what I think it will do for me, not how somone else looks.

[nyc1]

@MG Chris    Sending you the BIGGEST HUG.  Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.  I hope all is good with your skin now and that you are cancer free.....  forever. 

I used to bake with tanning oil and use reflecters when I was in my teens.  I grew up in NY so the sun was the strongest in July and August,  which is when most of my stupidity took place!!!!! 

I went to a derm in my teens and treated myself to wonderful facials in my 20s.  It's been many decades  since I went to a derm,  and decided at this stage of my life it was time to go back.  My husband and I went the end of last year, and she was very happy with my skin care routine. 

The is enough for me.....  right now!   Who knows down the road!

THANKS AGAIN.