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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations


@AngelPuppy1 wrote:

@Trinity11 

 

What moisturizer do you use?  I have asked my regular derm. many questions about what to use and not use.  I get no answers basically.  He tells me to use -- CeraVe.  That's his answer for everything.  He tells me to use the CeraVe one in the big tub -- that is like lard practically.  I told him -- no way --- my face would be one big zit!  I consulted another derm. and she just said use products that are fragrance free - period.  That's all I get from her.  So, I am basically on my own.  Thanks!  


I use Clinique oil free moisturizer. It is yellow but not the original. It doesn't have mineral oil or plant ingredients which always break me out. Fragrance free too @AngelPuppy1 . The Metrocream she prescribed actually broke me out so she changed me to Finacea. It works! 

I am really thinking of getting laser, though. I still have slight redness and would love to throw out all the makeup I use to cover it. I find I prefer a no makeup look as I age. Foundations cover redness but they also magnify fine lines.😳

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations


@AngelPuppy1 wrote:

@SilleeMee 

 

Thank you.  I have a moisturizing primer.  Never used it as I am hesitant about using new things.  I buy them and then I just stare at them --- LOL!  I tried a green tinted one once and I did not care for it.  Thanks for your post! 


@AngelPuppy1 I would at least try the never used but purchased products a few times to find out if you already have something right there that would work for you.  That would be my 1st step.  Pick a day where your not going somewhere special in case your not happy with the finished look.  

 

For myself I have rosacea and have very oily acne skin type that has dryness on the sides of my face so it's a balancing act for me.

 

I only use my one step SPF 50 which is hydrating 1st and then wait about 15mins or so then I apply my foundation to cover the good amount of redness I am dealing with.  I have found these 2 products on my skin type work beautifully and I am not changing anything up cause when I do it is a disaster LOL!  

 

This is as simple as it gets...and with rosacea IMO SPF is a must.

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations

@AngelPuppy1 As you can see from these answers, there is no one answer.

You just need to try some things until it works for you.

1. Exfoliate-gently. Again, there are a million things to use & you will get a million different answers about what we all use. I mix 120 grit microdermabrasion crystals with mother of pearl powder. Use a small amount on my wet face. Gently massage it across my cheeks, nose, forehead & chest. My sister mixes it into her face wash & uses it that way.

2. Moisture-This one is the toughest. To find the right amount of moisture without irritating your skin.

I hate Cerave products. I love Cosrx Oil Free Ultra Moisturizing Lotion with Birch Sap under makeup. Dr Denese Hydroshield Hydrating Dream Cream (How do they come up with these week long names?!) at night. Acure Radically Rejuveninating Eye Cream or Trader Joe's Supreme Hydration Eye Cream are my favorites for eye moisture.

3. I am going to back up & mention your cleanser here. Your cleanser can make a huge difference in your skin looking dehydrated!! Even if it claims to be gentle or for dry skin, it can be too drying & make your skin look very rough & dry. 

4. Foundation-You want coverage, but don't like the way that it is looking. You don't need a heavy foundation. Just a pigmented foundation. If you can get your skincare/primer situation correct adding some coverage is going to be the easy part.

You don't need to cover everything. Just camoflauge it so that you are comfortable with it. No one is noticing your skin/rosacea like you are. And there are a lot of options in all prices ranges. 

 

Don't give up. It sounds complicated but you said that you have products there. You just haven't used them.

 

Make one change at a time so that you know what works & what doesn't.

 

Ask questions here & on Makeupalley if you are interested. They have a makeup & skincare board & a lot of knowledge.

 

Or just wash your face & say forget it & go out & have a great day!!

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations

@Trinity11 

Laser treatments are game-changers. They are for me anyway. I go at least every other year and have my red areas treated. Unfortunately most of my redness issues are from my scleroderma and it will never go away 100%. Just keeps coming back...ugggh. I want to go w/o makeup, too, which I have been doing for a while now. It's liberating!

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations


@SilleeMee wrote:

@Trinity11 

Laser treatments are game-changers. They are for me anyway. I go at least every other year and have my red areas treated. Unfortunately most of my redness issues are from my scleroderma and it will never go away 100%. Just keeps coming back...ugggh. I want to go w/o makeup, too, which I have been doing for a while now. It's liberating!


Thanks @SilleeMee . How is the down time after the treatment? I heal slowly because of the Type 1 diabetes but I really think this has been bothering me enough to do something about it. I tried a new foundation but noticed fine lines are exaggerated when I wear it. Anything opaque enough to cover it, are going to bring out fine lines. After a recent weight loss, they are a lot more visible than before.

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations


@Trinity11 wrote:

@SilleeMee wrote:

@Trinity11 

Laser treatments are game-changers. They are for me anyway. I go at least every other year and have my red areas treated. Unfortunately most of my redness issues are from my scleroderma and it will never go away 100%. Just keeps coming back...ugggh. I want to go w/o makeup, too, which I have been doing for a while now. It's liberating!


Thanks @SilleeMee . How is the down time after the treatment? I heal slowly because of the Type 1 diabetes but I really think this has been bothering me enough to do something about it. I tried a new foundation but noticed fine lines are exaggerated when I wear it. Anything opaque enough to cover it, are going to bring out fine lines. After a recent weight loss, they are a lot more visible than before.


 

 

@Trinity11 

Laser treatment causes some overall redness but that fades away within the next day or two. The red areas where I got treated gets a bit more red for about a week and then after about two weeks it starts fading and looks very good with lots of clearing. My clear skin will last for almost two years and then the redness gets too noticeable for me to feel confident so I go back and have it done again. Congrats on your weight loss! 

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations

Primer is the last thing that goes on before your makeup.  Whether or not you need a moisturizer and or hydrating products is up to your needs. And there are different primers for different skin types/concerns.

The Hourglass primer I use I use after my essence and hydrators and moisturizer.  My primer is not for enlarged pores or for oiliness or for dryness. It is just to smooth the canvas (my face) for a more perfected foundation application.  I could not imagine wearing foundation without it. Just got my third bottle in the mail yesterday and got it for $20 less on eBay.  Decades ago I learned about using Monistat chafing gel as a primer. I learned about it on this forum. It's just like the original smashbox primer only much much less spendy. When my complexion turned desert dry I couldn't use it any longer.  If you don't have a dry complexion you might give it a try.

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations

@justashopper 

 

Thank you for your reply!  I know I zero in on my facial "flaws" but then I guess a lot of us do.  You must really like the Hourglass Blurring Primer since you have purhcased it a number of times -- that's a good endorsement! 

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@monicakm 

 

Another vote for the Hourglass Primer!  The description you gave of it, is what I want!  I don't think I could use the Monistat as I veer toward dry.  Thank you! 

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Re: Confusion over primers, moisturizers and foundations

@Dusty1 

 

Thaksk for your post!  I never had many skin issues at all until I got rosacea and then my skin really went down hill!  I just can't seem to get it looking nice no matter what I do.  I try the "less is more" approach because this seems to be the best, but this is definiately not great either.  It's frustrating when you take care of your skin and do all that yuou can and you still end up looking like cra*!  

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