Beauty

[gazelle77]

On 9/22/2014 bruingirl said:

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said: Actually the OP is not entirely incorrect, though it's Polysorbate -60, not 80. There is also "Cetearyl Alcohol," "Behentrimonium Sulfate," "Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine," and "Cetyl Alcohol" - among others, directly off the label of FGP. Ok, so it's a little white lie, not quite "all natural." Thousands of Wen users either haven't actually read the labels, or don't care, they like the results. I use it primarily as a conditioner. It still has a lot of "healthy" ingredients, and while I don't like the results enough to use it as my only hair product, I still feel I'm giving my hair a "treatment" when I use it. All beauty products have mystery ingredients, which I guess is my point.

wen isn't marketed as "all natural".....it does have some natural ingredients....there are some who see/read the word 'natural' and assume it means 'all natural'

The word NATURAL in the industry means nothing. There is no definition or rules for the word that a product has to follow. It is a joke!

[Tigriss]

Yeah..Facebook is so accurate. It is almost as accurate as Wikipedia!

[WenGirl42]

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said: Actually the OP is not entirely incorrect, though it's Polysorbate -60, not 80. There is also "Cetearyl Alcohol," "Behentrimonium Sulfate," "Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine," and "Cetyl Alcohol" - among others, directly off the label of FGP. Ok, so it's a little white lie, not quite "all natural." Thousands of Wen users either haven't actually read the labels, or don't care, they like the results. I use it primarily as a conditioner. It still has a lot of "healthy" ingredients, and while I don't like the results enough to use it as my only hair product, I still feel I'm giving my hair a "treatment" when I use it. All beauty products have mystery ingredients, which I guess is my point.

Sorry, which part of the OP is not entirely incorrect? She didn't say anything about the ingredients being natural or not. She asserted (from something she read) that an ingredient not even found in the CCs is "the major ingredient" and then claimed some properties of this missing ingredient. Do you mean the properties she claims are true of polysorbate-80 are also true of polysorbate-60? Or was the original "article" she referred to actually talking about polysorbate-60?

[willomenia]

That article doesn't bother me, as much as the law suits against Gunther who makes wen, in regards to wen causing hair to fall out! Several suits in litigation.

[w84WEN]

Ahh yes, lawsuits. Any Tom, Dic* or Harry can file one. Take for example THIS one:

In 1991, a man named Richard Overton filed a lawsuit against Anheiser-Busch for false advertising that had led to emotional distress, mental injury, and financial loss. Harris alleged that, unlike the what happens to guys in their ads, when he drank Bud Light the ladies weren’t attracted to him, nor did beautiful women and tropical settings appear out of thin air, as they did in another Budweiser commercial that was airing at the time. To add insult to this grave injury, he also asserted that when he drank beer, he would often wake up hung over. Overton sued for $10,000, but the case was thrown out before ever making it to trial.

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-unusual-lawsuits.php

If you want to know when Chaz is coming to town. Just check the message boards.

[Caitlinh429]

On 9/22/2014 w84WEN said:

Ahh yes, lawsuits. Any Tom, Dic* or Harry can file one. Take for example THIS one:

In 1991, a man named Richard Overton filed a lawsuit against Anheiser-Busch for false advertising that had led to emotional distress, mental injury, and financial loss. Harris alleged that, unlike the what happens to guys in their ads, when he drank Bud Light the ladies weren’t attracted to him, nor did beautiful women and tropical settings appear out of thin air, as they did in another Budweiser commercial that was airing at the time. To add insult to this grave injury, he also asserted that when he drank beer, he would often wake up hung over. Overton sued for $10,000, but the case was thrown out before ever making it to trial.

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-unusual-lawsuits.php

If you want to know when Chaz is coming to town. Just check the message boards.

omg, no... that can't be real.

[w84WEN]

On 9/22/2014 CaitlinH said:

On 9/22/2014 w84WEN said:

Ahh yes, lawsuits. Any Tom, Dic* or Harry can file one. Take for example THIS one:

In 1991, a man named Richard Overton filed a lawsuit against Anheiser-Busch for false advertising that had led to emotional distress, mental injury, and financial loss. Harris alleged that, unlike the what happens to guys in their ads, when he drank Bud Light the ladies weren’t attracted to him, nor did beautiful women and tropical settings appear out of thin air, as they did in another Budweiser commercial that was airing at the time. To add insult to this grave injury, he also asserted that when he drank beer, he would often wake up hung over. Overton sued for $10,000, but the case was thrown out before ever making it to trial.

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-unusual-lawsuits.php

If you want to know when Chaz is coming to town. Just check the message boards.

omg, no... that can't be real.

Sorry to say, yes it's real. I also remember the woman that used KY on her PB sandwich saying the label didn't say not to use with peanut butter. Honest to Pete... true story.

[lizzief]

On 9/22/2014 WenGirl42 said:

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said: Actually the OP is not entirely incorrect, though it's Polysorbate -60, not 80. There is also "Cetearyl Alcohol," "Behentrimonium Sulfate," "Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine," and "Cetyl Alcohol" - among others, directly off the label of FGP. Ok, so it's a little white lie, not quite "all natural." Thousands of Wen users either haven't actually read the labels, or don't care, they like the results. I use it primarily as a conditioner. It still has a lot of "healthy" ingredients, and while I don't like the results enough to use it as my only hair product, I still feel I'm giving my hair a "treatment" when I use it. All beauty products have mystery ingredients, which I guess is my point.

Sorry, which part of the OP is not entirely incorrect? She didn't say anything about the ingredients being natural or not. She asserted (from something she read) that an ingredient not even found in the CCs is "the major ingredient" and then claimed some properties of this missing ingredient. Do you mean the properties she claims are true of polysorbate-80 are also true of polysorbate Sorry, beg to differ, read your labels,which is all I was saying - Polysorbate 60 IS in the CC' s that I have - FGP, TT, and BGT.and 613. Also says right on the 613 label "the unique combination of 25 natural oils and extracts..." and "Full of naturally luxurious ingredients..." It's just marketing, and as some here have said, people assume natural ingredients means "all natural." But I wonder how many Wen users have taken the time to read the labels.

[lizzief]

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said:

On 9/22/2014 WenGirl42 said:

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said: Actually the OP is not entirely incorrect, though it's Polysorbate -60, not 80. There is also "Cetearyl Alcohol," "Behentrimonium Sulfate," "Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine," and "Cetyl Alcohol" - among others, directly off the label of FGP. Ok, so it's a little white lie, not quite "all natural." Thousands of Wen users either haven't actually read the labels, or don't care, they like the results. I use it primarily as a conditioner. It still has a lot of "healthy" ingredients, and while I don't like the results enough to use it as my only hair product, I still feel I'm giving my hair a "treatment" when I use it. All beauty products have mystery ingredients, which I guess is my point.

Sorry, which part of the OP is not entirely incorrect? She didn't say anything about the ingredients being natural or not. She asserted (from something she read) that an ingredient not even found in the CCs is "the major ingredient" and then claimed some properties of this missing ingredient. Do you mean the properties she claims are true of polysorbate-80 are also true of polysorbate Sorry, beg to differ, read your labels,which is all I was saying - Polysorbate 60 IS in the CC' s that I have - FGP, TT, and BGT.and 613. Also says right on the 613 label "the unique combination of 25 natural oils and extracts..." and "Full of naturally luxurious ingredients..." It's just marketing, and as some here have said, people assume natural ingredients means "all natural." But I wonder how many Wen users have taken the time to read the labels.

Sorry, I downloaded the new IOS update and some things are wacky! My reply is attached to yours above!

[WenGirl42]

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said:

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said:

On 9/22/2014 WenGirl42 said:

On 9/22/2014 lizzief said: Actually the OP is not entirely incorrect, though it's Polysorbate -60, not 80. There is also "Cetearyl Alcohol," "Behentrimonium Sulfate," "Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine," and "Cetyl Alcohol" - among others, directly off the label of FGP. Ok, so it's a little white lie, not quite "all natural." Thousands of Wen users either haven't actually read the labels, or don't care, they like the results. I use it primarily as a conditioner. It still has a lot of "healthy" ingredients, and while I don't like the results enough to use it as my only hair product, I still feel I'm giving my hair a "treatment" when I use it. All beauty products have mystery ingredients, which I guess is my point.

Sorry, which part of the OP is not entirely incorrect? She didn't say anything about the ingredients being natural or not. She asserted (from something she read) that an ingredient not even found in the CCs is "the major ingredient" and then claimed some properties of this missing ingredient. Do you mean the properties she claims are true of polysorbate-80 are also true of polysorbate Sorry, beg to differ, read your labels,which is all I was saying - Polysorbate 60 IS in the CC' s that I have - FGP, TT, and BGT.and 613. Also says right on the 613 label "the unique combination of 25 natural oils and extracts..." and "Full of naturally luxurious ingredients..." It's just marketing, and as some here have said, people assume natural ingredients means "all natural." But I wonder how many Wen users have taken the time to read the labels.

Sorry, I downloaded the new IOS update and some things are wacky! My reply is attached to yours above!

No worries, happens on my iPad allll the time! I know polysorbate-60 is in some of the CCs...I'm the one who pointed that out. That's a different compound (substance) than polysorbate-80. I'm still trying to understand why you think this is related to your all-natural idea (...which nobody is disagreeing with? At least I'm not...) or what, exactly, in the OP was "not entirely incorrect."