BURNING QUESTIONS ANYONE? - Page 6

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@catter70 wrote:
@Shanus , i had a ? the other day, but couldn't post. I have issues with lining lower lash area. Pencil, liquid, waterproof, it always disappears after a couple hours. I'v tried putting a bit of shadow primer under my lower lashers then apply eye liner and then dust with a bit of either powder or eye showdow and it still disappears. Any suggestions for me?

@catter70 I stopped putting any product under my eyes except a fine line of medium tone shadow on the outer third. Between eye creams, concealers, etc., it's a losing battle. I dot the shadow between my lower lashes to just thicken the look of my lashes and not try to make a darker distinct liner.

***Apply a bit of Laura Mercier Undereye Brightening Powder under your eye to set your concealer BEFORE applying your liner or my idea of using a shadow only.

catter70 · ‎10-11-2017

Thanks, @Shanus , I also don't use eye cream when I'm gonna use eye makeup. I will try what you suggested. You are a fountain of information.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@catter70 wrote:
Thanks, @Shanus , I also don't use eye cream when I'm gonna use eye makeup. I will try what you suggested. You are a fountain of information.

@catter70 IMHO, an undereye cream, even if a gel formula, is a neccesity to provide a smoother service for concealer. besides it gives the undereye a hydrated, smooth look.

JudyL · ‎07-11-2010

@Shanus have a question re concealer for mature eyes. I'm 66 so have lines, wrinkles, puffiness, bluish coloring, and whenever I try and use a concealer and I've tried quite a few, it just seems to look worse. I bring my face primer to my eye area, color corrector, and then concealer. If I use a powder to set the concealer then I'm a mess, that just makes things worse. Seems to settle in the fine lines and after a while the bluish color shows through. Just want my eye area to not look so tired as it does when I don't wear a concealer. I've watched a few videos on conealer for older women on youtube and have gotten appication tips but still having issues.

What are your suggestions for concealer for mature eyes? Thanks for your help!

Katcat1 · ‎07-21-2011

@Shanus I have to admit I am sorry I never went into a career in makeup. I ended up a legal assistant/secretary, a faar cry from makeup. It's nice that you have your own business I do have one question for you. Why does foundation or titned moisturizer oxidize on mhy skin. Is there an ingredient that is doing this? I use to wear Laura Mercier and when the co. was sold the formula was changed and now the tinted moisturizer oxidizes.

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Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

@Shanus

Have you reached a decision on a puppy?

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@Katcat1 wrote:
@Shanus I have to admit I am sorry I never went into a career in makeup. I ended up a legal assistant/secretary, a faar cry from makeup. It's nice that you have your own business I do have one question for you. Why does foundation or titned moisturizer oxidize on mhy skin. Is there an ingredient that is doing this? I use to wear Laura Mercier and when the co. was sold the formula was changed and now the tinted moisturizer oxidizes.

@Katcat1 I've done makeup for so long...25 yrs.+, I don't remember NOT doing not. Oxidation in makeup has to do with the amt. of orange and yellow pigments in the foundation. In the lightest shade offered (me), there's very little pigment. As the shades get darker and go from medium to deep, more pigments in the orange/red/yellow range are added. If you also have oily skin, that can make the oxidation worse.

I usually suggest a mattifying prime in the t zone or where oily and a reg. primer to be a buffer on the rest of the face. Sometimes, oxidation can be caused by skincare and the primer then becomes a barrier.

I know my Vit.C serum oxidizes and turns yellow (in the bottle) before I finish it. It also adds a slightly yellow tinge to my skin before makeup. I don't mind that since it cancels out any redness....the reason most women find foundations are too yellow, but are meant to color correct redness...some companies go overboard w/ the yellow.

Bobbi Brown which has a neutral porcelain shade is the only fair shade I've found, so far, that doesn't have cool pink tones or warmer yellow tones. The next shade up has too much yellow for me....and there are probably 25 or more shades to choose from. MAC has an "N", "W" or "C" before the numbers, but no shade fair/neutral for me. I also think they have their cools and warms recommendations backwards.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@JudyL wrote:
@Shanus have a question re concealer for mature eyes. I'm 66 so have lines, wrinkles, puffiness, bluish coloring, and whenever I try and use a concealer and I've tried quite a few, it just seems to look worse. I bring my face primer to my eye area, color corrector, and then concealer. If I use a powder to set the concealer then I'm a mess, that just makes things worse. Seems to settle in the fine lines and after a while the bluish color shows through. Just want my eye area to not look so tired as it does when I don't wear a concealer. I've watched a few videos on conealer for older women on youtube and have gotten appication tips but still having issues.

What are your suggestions for concealer for mature eyes? Thanks for your help!

@JudyL I think I addressed a similar issue for someone else. The most important factor is a really good eye cream for day and a heavier one for night. If the under eye is really hydrated and you wait for it sink in, you'll have better results. I personally (& on clients over 50) use a eye cream mised in my hand with a drop of dry oil to really hydrate that area. The next step, after that settles in, is a corrector...usually peach toned...most makeup lines (drugstores, too) have them now and then a lightweight concealer...I use Nars Creamy Concealer.... comes in a tube w/ doe foot. Tap it lightly on top of the corrector.

A concealer alone will not take away the darkness. If you use a corrector, you can use a lightweight concealer on top...not as much to conceal.

Most importantly is to come to terms with some wrinkles, darkness, puffiness and not get fixated on an issue that can't be corrected completely by makeup. We all, after a certain age, will have flaws, wrinkles, loss of volume, creases, etc. Acceptance goes a long way other than trying to erase an area. Lecture over.

***A face primer is not meant for the undereyes...that could be part of the creasing. If you use an eyelid primer, even that can usually only be used with a small brush right under lower lashes to hold eyeliner there in place. It's purpose is to matte lids so they hold shadow. Placing that or other primers under the eyes will dry the area resulting in wrinkling and making concealer crease.

Prevention is my motto: hydrate the area day and night. I sometimes will add a bit of oil on a q tip during the day....rolling it lightly under my eyes if I seem dry in that area. Hope some of this too long reply will help.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@Drythe wrote:
@Shanus

Have you reached a decision on a puppy?

@Drythe Yes, not getting another puppy. We'll be down sizing in a few years and a condo or another neighborhood may not tolerate 2 dogs..especially if the second beagle is a howler...Molly is not, just occasional barking at dogs walking by her fence.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@Katcat1 wrote:
@Shanus I have to admit I am sorry I never went into a career in makeup. I ended up a legal assistant/secretary, a faar cry from makeup. It's nice that you have your own business I do have one question for you. Why does foundation or titned moisturizer oxidize on mhy skin. Is there an ingredient that is doing this? I use to wear Laura Mercier and when the co. was sold the formula was changed and now the tinted moisturizer oxidizes.

@Katcat1 I forgot to mention that sometimes the SPF in a makeup can also alter the color and cause oxidation. If I were darker than a fair shade, I'd find a tinted moisturizer or foundation that was spf free. Many find issues with the IT foundations being too yellow, but when you figure the serums, moisturizers, primer and spf in there, it's not a shocker to me.