Anyone using Sisley Black Rose oil? Results?

Montana · ‎03-09-2010

What does it do? Is it good for sensitive skin?

Very expensive but I would like to try it.

Adelina · ‎05-02-2015

I just checked it out. WOW, that is very very expensive. For that price I want miracles!

It gets good reviews on MakeupAlley:

http://www.makeupalley.com/product/showreview.asp/ItemId=173687/Black-Rose-Precious-Face-Oil/Sisley/...

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shoekitty · ‎03-10-2010

I used to use all Sisley, but many I had to find subs because they just became too expensive. I have used the Black Rose cream mask and it is wonderful. I haven't tried the oil, I am afraid of oil of any kind, LOL!

I still use a few Sisley products I cannot do without. Costco online does sell some sisley products, half price.

10mk · ‎02-18-2014

Shoekitty what products do you use in Sisley? I also use some.

Bella Carro · ‎10-01-2011

What does it do and is it good for sensitive skin?

Here are the ingredients: squalane, prune kernel oil, camelina seed oil, avocado oil unsaponifiables, tocopherol, padina pavonica thallus extract, rose extract, pelargonium graveolens oil, michelia alba leaf oil, rosa domascena flower oil, caprylic/capric triglyceride, simmondsia chinesis seed oil, hydrogenated soy bean oil, (linalool, citronellol, limonene, eugenol).

Squalane, yep, good for skin and a very light feeling oil. This is what PTR uses in his "no oil" oil.

Prune kernel, yep, good for skin. Lots of omegas, high in oleic acid. Def skin loving stuff.

Camelina seed oil, yep, another one great for skin with omegas, etc.

Avocado oil unsaponifiables - of course, we all know avocado oil is great for skin. The unsaponifiables is the part of the oil that won't make soap. Really not a big deal, but, it sure sounds fancy!

Tocopherol - ie Vit E

Padina pavonica thallus extract - a brown algea found abundanly in the Mediterranean. There are some type of claims that it rejuvenates itself therefore it must follow that it will rejuvenate skin (?). I could not find any peer reviewed research to back this up. Personally, I'll go all day long with sea kelp bioferment from the north Atlantic and its reviewed research.

Rose extract - yeah, but really no great shakes and very easily found for not much cost.

Pelargonium graveolens oil - geranium essential oil. Not especially great for skin and some may be very sensitive

Michelia alba leaf oil - supposed to smell really, really good and at one time was used in an Asian culture death ritual. Everything I found states this is often a skin irritant. But, it supposedly smells really good and it is costly.

Rosa domascena flower oil - very expensive and smells fantastic if you like roses.

Caprylic/capric triglyceride - a triester of glycerin and coconut oil fatty acids. Very emollient, very light, very inexpensive

Simmondsia chinesis seed oil - jojoba oil (wax). Closely resembles human sebum

Hydrogenated soy bean oil - why heat it with hydrogen and lose the benefits of the fatty acids?

$235 for under an ounce. .84 of an ounce to be exact. That works out to about $10 per ml. For some very nice but not exactly remarkable oils, some prolific Mediterranean brown algea, sweet smelling but possibly irritating essential oils, and fairly common extract.

That is some darn good marketing.

shoekitty · ‎03-10-2010

My HG with Sisley was the Global Anti Aging cream. I started out paying 200 in 2003, by 2013 it is selling for 495. Talk about increase. I gave it up for another product, but Costco sells it for 280, and I keep a jar on hard and use it once in a while.

Products I still use are the Sisleya eye lip cream,I cannot live without the Eau d Campagne body lotion, and the bath gel. Nothing compares, and I have tried. I keep a bottle of Radiant Immediate Lift always. Over or under make up fine lines disappear. It is magic. Dies what it says.

One product of theirs that is excellent and I use everyday is the Phyto Extreme Mascara. It gets great reviews everywhere. Their stuff is just so dang expensive. But these few products I have used for years (except mascara, it is only 2 years out in the market) For me they work like nothing else. I am 67, and I do have great skin if nothing else, LOL!

Bella Carro · ‎10-01-2011

@shoekitty wrote:
My HG with Sisley was the Global Anti Aging cream. I started out paying 200 in 2003, by 2013 it is selling for 495. Talk about increase. I gave it up for another product, but Costco sells it for 280, and I keep a jar on hard and use it once in a while.

Products I still use are the Sisleya eye lip cream,I cannot live without the Eau d Campagne body lotion, and the bath gel. Nothing compares, and I have tried. I keep a bottle of Radiant Immediate Lift always. Over or under make up fine lines disappear. It is magic. Dies what it says.
One product of theirs that is excellent and I use everyday is the Phyto Extreme Mascara. It gets great reviews everywhere. Their stuff is just so dang expensive. But these few products I have used for years (except mascara, it is only 2 years out in the market) For me they work like nothing else. I am 67, and I do have great skin if nothing else, LOL!

shoekitty, you're a smart cookie. You know what works for you and you don't seem the type to be drawn in solely by hype. When I was searching for ingredients on this I was astounded by the beauty bloggers and editors falling all over themselves for this product. The markup is obscene. But, I don't really fault them for overcharging. I get irritated with unclear, not quite above board claims and marketing. Moreso, with the bloggers and editors going off on the stuff. For Pete's Sake, they should know their stuff and should know better. Then they get everyone else all worked up about... squalane. Overpriced oil.

shoekitty · ‎03-10-2010

Bella

The mark up is huge, but all skin care in Dept stores is. Sisley is an exclusive product, made in one place in France. Besides Neimans, Sak and, Barneys,Nordie, only a few other places sell a few pieces from the line, like Costco. Costco sells about 8 products of sisley to members online only, They are authorized. I would not buy Sisley from Amazon or 3rd parties. Most of the products sold on Ebay are gifts with purchase and samples. Neimans gives free samples.

Dept stores pay commissions to sales associates, they pay high booth fees. I think the mark up is 500%, by the time it leaves the distributor. Wow!

One thing is true, Europeans use more plant based products without all the anti aging bells and whistles than we do.We shy away from essential oils here, but they use them like crazy there. Sisley is the most coveted skin care in most of Europe and Korea and Japan . I have been told that it is concidered high end there, but the prices here in the states are triple what they used to pay in Europe.

I say use what works. Cost doesn't have everything to do with quality or what works. With me, I go so far with cost...then a line is drawn ...and not on my face either. LOL!

bebe777 · ‎12-10-2012

@Bella Carro wrote:
What does it do and is it good for sensitive skin?
Here are the ingredients: squalane, prune kernel oil, camelina seed oil, avocado oil unsaponifiables, tocopherol, padina pavonica thallus extract, rose extract, pelargonium graveolens oil, michelia alba leaf oil, rosa domascena flower oil, caprylic/capric triglyceride, simmondsia chinesis seed oil, hydrogenated soy bean oil, (linalool, citronellol, limonene, eugenol).

Squalane, yep, good for skin and a very light feeling oil. This is what PTR uses in his "no oil" oil.
Prune kernel, yep, good for skin. Lots of omegas, high in oleic acid. Def skin loving stuff.
Camelina seed oil, yep, another one great for skin with omegas, etc.
Avocado oil unsaponifiables - of course, we all know avocado oil is great for skin. The unsaponifiables is the part of the oil that won't make soap. Really not a big deal, but, it sure sounds fancy!
Tocopherol - ie Vit E
Padina pavonica thallus extract - a brown algea found abundanly in the Mediterranean. There are some type of claims that it rejuvenates itself therefore it must follow that it will rejuvenate skin (?). I could not find any peer reviewed research to back this up. Personally, I'll go all day long with sea kelp bioferment from the north Atlantic and its reviewed research.
Rose extract - yeah, but really no great shakes and very easily found for not much cost.
Pelargonium graveolens oil - geranium essential oil. Not especially great for skin and some may be very sensitive
Michelia alba leaf oil - supposed to smell really, really good and at one time was used in an Asian culture death ritual. Everything I found states this is often a skin irritant. But, it supposedly smells really good and it is costly.
Rosa domascena flower oil - very expensive and smells fantastic if you like roses.
Caprylic/capric triglyceride - a triester of glycerin and coconut oil fatty acids. Very emollient, very light, very inexpensive
Simmondsia chinesis seed oil - jojoba oil (wax). Closely resembles human sebum
Hydrogenated soy bean oil - why heat it with hydrogen and lose the benefits of the fatty acids?

$235 for under an ounce. .84 of an ounce to be exact. That works out to about $10 per ml. For some very nice but not exactly remarkable oils, some prolific Mediterranean brown algea, sweet smelling but possibly irritating essential oils, and fairly common extract.
That is some darn good marketing.

Bella Carro, thank you for taking the time to run down all these skin care ingredients. Your explanation were great and very helpful!!

-- bebe

P.S. I'm on the hunt for new cleansing oil to replace my Rosewood Wonder Drops. I came across a possible recipe this week and I'm thinking of trying to make a product myself. I've posted a new thread on this and I'd really appreciate your take on it. Thanks!!!