On 2/24/2014 NYCGRL said: On 2/21/2014 HappyDaze said: On 2/21/2014 NYCGRL said: On 2/21/2014 HappyDaze said: NYCGRL makes a point in that alot of these so-called "cruelty free" companies still KILL animals for ingredients in their products so if you care not only about not testing products on animals (i.e. torturing them) but are also against KILLING them for ingredients in beauty products, you should do further research. <em>For example, someone above mentioned IT cosmetics being "cruelty free" but IT cosmetics uses animal-derived ingredients</em>.
I really don't get how we can label something "cruelty-free" but can still kill an animal for the ingredients in that product. It boggles my mind.
P.S. I know for a fact Mally will not respond about her brushes being animal hair/fur. Someone else on this board tried to find out when she had her TSV with the eye shadows. I did do my research and learned that the brush was sable and I will never purchase her products again (not even a lip gloss). At least own it. Don't state on TV "never tested on animals" as you hold a fur make-up brush in your hand. That gets my blood boiling.
She responded to my question about this very thing back in August of last year. Here is what they said:
"Thank you for your email! The hair that is used for our brushes (not all- we use synthetic as well) is goat or pony hair. These animals are NOT hurt in the process and their hair is grown out before it is cut. Once the hair is cut, it is washed, sterilized and brushed. If you are concerned about the natural hair in our brushes, we also created a synthetic brush collection (except for the blender brush)."
I believe I posted this once before. Obviously, this is a touchy subject for people. But the more you know the better. Anyway, if that is what the company is telling you it is a lie. Here is some information on how "pony hair" is obtained. Read it and weep:
For years the professionals have preferred animal-hair brushes, citing their softness, ability to “carry” color, and usefulness for specific natural-looking applications. But we wondered—are animals harmed in the making of animal-hair brushes?
Goats, badgers, squirrels, minks, and ponies all donate (unwillingly) their hair to makeup brushes. Each type of hair comes with its own unique strengths and advantages. The stiffness of badger hair works to define, shape, and fill in brows. Goat hair is very soft and provides a medium-to-full application that is even and natural-looking. Kolinsky hair (from the tail of a species of mink) holds a fine point and is good when you need to be precise. Pony hair is typically used in blush or eye brushes, and is considered strong enough for good contouring. Squirrel—often considered the softest hair—is good for detailing and shading the crease of the eye.
Are the animals harmed when they give up this hair? According to caringconsumer.com, mink and sable brushes often use hair obtained from the fur industry, which is known for trapping and killing animals for their pelts, often by gassing or electrocuting to avoid damaging the hair. Horse hair commonly comes from horses slaughtered for meat, goats are shorn like sheep (and may suffer cuts and other injuries), and squirrels are hunted or trapped. Some manufacturers obtain their hair supplies from other countries, where animal welfare regulations are either lax or nonexistent.
“Companies that claim that they are cruelty free,” says Peggy Hannaman-Jones, founder of the Branded J Collection, “claiming they are shaving the animals and using shed hair from animals are deceiving themselves and others. It is simply not true! All hair is bought through fur farmers all over the world.”
Trying to nail down exactly where different cosmetic companies get their animal hair, however—and how those animals are treated—is difficult, if not impossible. Most companies don’t have this information available to the public. So what is a conscientious consumer to do?
First, if you’re really sold on animal-hair brushes, ask your favorite company what “cruelty-free” means to them. Where do they get their animal hair? Is it possible for you to see the conditions in which the animals are kept? Can you to get any literature on the matter at all?
If you want to avoid anything made with animals, or simply want to skip the hassle of trying to figure out which animals (if any) are treated humanely, stick with synthetic brushes. The good news is that modern-day technology has made it possible to create high-quality synthetic brushes that hold color, resist shedding, apply evenly, and are easy to clean. There are several brands out there—to get started, try Sevi Vegan brushes, Branded J, Ecco Bella Botanicals, Paris Presents’ Eco-Tools, Garden Botanika, and Origins Natural Resources.
Thank you again NYCGRL for the helpful information. I wish there was an answer for all the cruelty that takes place in our world. Not only for the animals, but, most of all for our Precious babies. I don't know if there is an answer as long as we are here on this Earth. All I can do is try to help in as little way as I can. But, I do know there will be an answer after all this has passed away. And, GOD have Mercy on the Individuals that put these laws into effect.
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I've been trying for decades to only purchase products not tested on animals. I don't wear leather, either. I was fooled by L'Occitane. 
