References for Part-time Job? - Page 2

chrystaltree · ‎05-10-2010

No, do not use references that are 10 years old. 10 years is the cut off for references. Unless that is all an applicant has. If you choose not to use your actual supervisor, use another supervisor or manager who had knowledge of your work. It's done all the time. Just be sure to call that person and ask if you can use him for a reference. If that person doesn't know about the situation with your real supervisor, just say that your relationship with that person was "complicated" and you prefer not to use him. People often do that when they are applying for a job and don't want to give their real supervisor as a reference because they don't want their supervisor to know they are job hunting.

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

@ECBG wrote:
I have been in the job market following retiring from teaching. I am now dealing with the aftermath of a situation where I was forced to work with a toxic person.

Brings back memories. It is such an awful situation to be in. I was glad I was able to take a retirement package and escape.

I found out later, most of the people I worked with took "early out" packages like I did. The company pretty much just got rid of the "old" people.

"The less you respond to negative people, the more peaceful your life will become."

proudlyfromNJ · ‎05-01-2010

In my last job, supervisors or managers weren't allowed to give references. Those emails or phone calls all were directed to human resources.

software · ‎06-08-2016

Most interviewers work off a script.

But in your case you don't fit the script.

Maybe they would accept a reference from someone else in your life, a minister even. Maybe a manager from a different department, someone in HR......

Always be honest. A potential employer does not need to know all the dirty details but they do deserve honesty.

Good luck.

@RinaRina

ROMARY · ‎04-28-2010

RinaRina: Not only that, but sometimes jealous people just 'make stuff up'. Anything to discredit another person....and they don't seem to care how legal (or not) their actions are. It's an obsession, taking over every bit of common sense. It must be an incredibly terrible existence for some of those people. Too bad for them.

'More or less', 'Right or wrong', 'In general', and 'Just thinking out loud ' (as usual).

Imadickens · ‎06-15-2016

In my opinion you should give them what they ask for. They will find out anyway, better it come from you. If do they call, your old advisor should tell them honestly the kind of employee you were regardless of your personal relationship. At the interview, you should do the same. It is not the time for petty complaints. If you believe you will receive a biased review from them, you could mention that you had a difficult working relationship with said person. Do not unload or exaggerate how the person managed. If you have facts, you might say something like, " I clocked in on time daily and took only 3 sick days in the 20 years I was there. I completed my work on time and as requested. If the interviewer is any good he will as you to explain any complaints your old supervisor may have written. Explain simply and honestly. Interviewers are used to people having differences but will figure you will speak about them as you do your old employer. Good luck!

Never underestimate the power of kindness.

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

@Imadickens wrote:
In my opinion you should give them what they ask for. They will find out anyway, better it come from you. .

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Yep. They'll find out anyway. That's why they want names & phone numbers. At this point, I don't know what I'm going to do. I've tracked down two other former supervisors and no one knows "who" they are. Apparently, they've retired. That just leaves the awful wi+ch I worked under. I saw her picture on LinkedIn this morning, and I've had a splitting headache ever since. We had a BAD relationship. She was competitive and jealous. Some of the things she did to me were just awful. She'd take my ideas and then change them and tell me to do the project with her changes ... changes that basically ruined the outcome of the projects. If I disagreed with her about anything, she'd call me "insubordinate". One day she accused me of doing something I did not do. She badgered me so badly, trying to force me to admit the offense, she brought me to tears. Eventually, Human Resources got involved because I charged her with harassment. The two higher ups in HR who tried to help me are now -- "gone" also. The woman retired. I saw the guy on LinkedIn. He works elsewhere.
What a nightmare.
For part-time work, this may not be worth the bother.

"The less you respond to negative people, the more peaceful your life will become."

LTT1 · ‎03-09-2010

@RinaRina

You might find some good answers here and the article definitely implies that this happens a lot:

https://www.thebalance.com/interview-questions-about-bosses-2061268

~Have a Kind Heart, Fierce Mind, Brave Spirit~

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

@LTT1 wrote:
@RinaRina

You might find some good answers here and the article definitely implies that this happens a lot:

https://www.thebalance.com/interview-questions-about-bosses-2061268

WoW!

The links in this article are EXCELLENT. Lots of good answers. Gives me hope. LOL!

Thank you!

"The less you respond to negative people, the more peaceful your life will become."

ROMARY · ‎04-28-2010

RinaRina: 'Ten-four' (I hear you.) Sometimes these obsessed people are so focused on their agenda toward someone else, they will sabotage their own employer/company. And their own lives. They 'can't see straight', so to speak. All I can say is that it must be a very, very frustrating way for them to live. A personal 'prison' of sort. Lots of good luck to you. My suggestion is to just give another job application a try. Whatever/whichever way you feel more comfortable in the application process, at least you tried. 'Nothing ventured, nothing gained.'

'More or less', 'Right or wrong', 'In general', and 'Just thinking out loud ' (as usual).