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[Moonchilde]

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@catwhisperer wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@1MrsT wrote:

I'd rather people cuss like a sailor and show true kindness and acceptance of others. I know people who never curse, but they think nothing of cheating on their taxes and their spouses, and yet look down on everyone they come into contact with.

So for me...morality is something more than language, though I have to say I cringe when I hear JC or GD used. I guess we all have something that trips our triggers.

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Those who frequently speak of morals and morality in a superior fashion (not meaning you) are often those who look down on everyone who isn't their personal clone, and aren't shy about expressing it. They also frequently express that "mama taught" them not to say/do certain things. Bless their hearts, I think mama left out the lesson on being superciliously rude.

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@Moonchilde.... as always, you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, I grew up in a household where profanity was a daily occurance. As I posted previously, I let it fly every day, but in my own home, not in public. I was not raised with a silver spoon in my mouth and don't claim to be better than anyone else, so I just cringe and roll my eyes when I read some of the posts on these forums. Some people seem to have the need to let others know how perfect and wonderful they are. Oh, look at me, I volunteered today, I did this, I did that. Gag me with a spoon.

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Interestingly, I grew up in a household where I was taught not to use 4-letter words because they weren't "ladylike", although ladylike or not, my mother would occasionally swear, though never used the f-word.

She never failed to chastise me, whenever we were together throughout my life, if I let fly with any 4-letter words. She also never failed to tell me she didn't like my hair - ever ;-)

Yet I swear anyway. Not routinely around others or in public, and not knowingly around those I know don't like it. To me, "don't approve" is different than "don't like"; I respect the latter but not the former ;-)

As has been said before, swearing in times of physical pain lessens the perception of that pain (scientifically studied and appears to be true); for me at least it also mitigates emotional stress and anger. I think few would disagree that using the f-word is better than driving someone off the road in a rage, as an example I can think of where I would not personally be inclined to do such a thing, but many others would, and do, every day.

So yeah, it has its place and its uses, and no Church Lady is going to "shame" me otherwise. I use the CL term not to denigrate religion per se, but only the type of person personified by Dana Carvey's character, complete with pursed lips/prune face.

[catwhisperer]

@Moonchilde...you go girl!

[Annabellethecat66]

I read up to the end of page 4 but it was pretty much the same (as it would be if I were saying stuff).

Ahhhh!!!  That famous F word.  So here's something I've always wondered (I've pondered for many a year)......

Who decided which words were 'inappropriate, curse words....and so on"?  I searched long and hard and never been ever to find the answer.

I have had people use the F word in front of me and then gasp and apologize.  I look at them and say, "That's OK, there are times when it just 'fits':".  I really feel that way.

To me they are just words.  Do I want people sitting (or standing) and spouting them out?  NO!  Did my late husband and I curse in front of our daughters?  No!  

Even when they became adults, we seldom did.  I've never believed in the old adage, "Do as I say, not as I do".  

I've heard my daughters use a few curse words, but not very often.

I once said to my granddaughter, (while trying to climb some steps), "Honey!  Grandma's too fat for this".  She said, "Grandma that's a bad word".  I said, "What's a bad word?"  She said, "Fat".  I had to explain to her (which I'm sure my daughter has already done) it's wrong to use it to be mean to people.

I love being around my guy friends.  There are a few of them when it's appropriate I'll use a few choice words.

I can't say I know anyone who curses all of the time or much at all.  It just doesn't make sense.

I don't like the way people can now sometimes cuss on TV.  I really believe if society is going to continue to evolve in the right direction, it needs to have citizens who are civil to each other and that includes not spouting out constant cuss words......

But then, like I said, "I don't think there are many people who sit and cuss just to be doing it".

Oh!  I almost forgot.  I was just this week telling my friend that my daughter was a lifeguard at a large waterpark when she was in high school.  A young guy she worked with had Touretts.  I didn't realize it and I heard him spouting out cuss words like crazy.....I asked her about him.

She said, "Oh!  That's John!  He's a really neat guy.  He has Turrets.  He only cusses like that when he gets nervous and usually he's in the back area."  She said, "His mom says to him they are just words and she's explained he shouldn't use them in public."

I think I must be more liberal about things than I had any idea because I've never judged someone about their looks, their clothes or if they throw out a few F words now and then.

I think many of you feel similar to me.  I could hang out with many of you and if I used the F word (and it fitted) I don't think you'd put a bar of soap in my mouth......would you?

ps....Hello to sweet @ECBG

[Moonchilde]

@catwhisperer, I have never taken well to holier or more worthy than thou in any of its varied forms 😏

As good as, certainly, but not better than. To me, deeds done or NOT done define a person in the end. We are all of us (me included) sometimes caught up in exteriors, and this thread has been a reminder to me of that. I need to "watch it" ;-)

[ECBG]

@Annabellethecat66Are you on?  Let's move to FB.

[Annabellethecat66]

@ECBG Just got home.....Just got on...where do you want me?

[happygolfcartrider]

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@catwhisperer wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@1MrsT wrote:

I'd rather people cuss like a sailor and show true kindness and acceptance of others. I know people who never curse, but they think nothing of cheating on their taxes and their spouses, and yet look down on everyone they come into contact with.

So for me...morality is something more than language, though I have to say I cringe when I hear JC or GD used. I guess we all have something that trips our triggers.

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Those who frequently speak of morals and morality in a superior fashion (not meaning you) are often those who look down on everyone who isn't their personal clone, and aren't shy about expressing it. They also frequently express that "mama taught" them not to say/do certain things. Bless their hearts, I think mama left out the lesson on being superciliously rude.

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@Moonchilde.... as always, you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, I grew up in a household where profanity was a daily occurance. As I posted previously, I let it fly every day, but in my own home, not in public. I was not raised with a silver spoon in my mouth and don't claim to be better than anyone else, so I just cringe and roll my eyes when I read some of the posts on these forums. Some people seem to have the need to let others know how perfect and wonderful they are. Oh, look at me, I volunteered today, I did this, I did that. Gag me with a spoon.

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Interestingly, I grew up in a household where I was taught not to use 4-letter words because they weren't "ladylike", although ladylike or not, my mother would occasionally swear, though never used the f-word.

She never failed to chastise me, whenever we were together throughout my life, if I let fly with any 4-letter words. She also never failed to tell me she didn't like my hair - ever ;-)

Yet I swear anyway. Not routinely around others or in public, and not knowingly around those I know don't like it. To me, "don't approve" is different than "don't like"; I respect the latter but not the former ;-)

As has been said before, swearing in times of physical pain lessens the perception of that pain (scientifically studied and appears to be true); for me at least it also mitigates emotional stress and anger. I think few would disagree that using the f-word is better than driving someone off the road in a rage, as an example I can think of where I would not personally be inclined to do such a thing, but many others would, and do, every day.

So yeah, it has its place and its uses, and no Church Lady is going to "shame" me otherwise. I use the CL term not to denigrate religion per se, but only the type of person personified by Dana Carvey's character, complete with pursed lips/prune face.

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[Moonchilde]

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@happygolfcartrider wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@catwhisperer wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@1MrsT wrote:

I'd rather people cuss like a sailor and show true kindness and acceptance of others. I know people who never curse, but they think nothing of cheating on their taxes and their spouses, and yet look down on everyone they come into contact with.

So for me...morality is something more than language, though I have to say I cringe when I hear JC or GD used. I guess we all have something that trips our triggers.

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Those who frequently speak of morals and morality in a superior fashion (not meaning you) are often those who look down on everyone who isn't their personal clone, and aren't shy about expressing it. They also frequently express that "mama taught" them not to say/do certain things. Bless their hearts, I think mama left out the lesson on being superciliously rude.

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@Moonchilde.... as always, you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, I grew up in a household where profanity was a daily occurance. As I posted previously, I let it fly every day, but in my own home, not in public. I was not raised with a silver spoon in my mouth and don't claim to be better than anyone else, so I just cringe and roll my eyes when I read some of the posts on these forums. Some people seem to have the need to let others know how perfect and wonderful they are. Oh, look at me, I volunteered today, I did this, I did that. Gag me with a spoon.

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Interestingly, I grew up in a household where I was taught not to use 4-letter words because they weren't "ladylike", although ladylike or not, my mother would occasionally swear, though never used the f-word.

She never failed to chastise me, whenever we were together throughout my life, if I let fly with any 4-letter words. She also never failed to tell me she didn't like my hair - ever ;-)

Yet I swear anyway. Not routinely around others or in public, and not knowingly around those I know don't like it. To me, "don't approve" is different than "don't like"; I respect the latter but not the former ;-)

As has been said before, swearing in times of physical pain lessens the perception of that pain (scientifically studied and appears to be true); for me at least it also mitigates emotional stress and anger. I think few would disagree that using the f-word is better than driving someone off the road in a rage, as an example I can think of where I would not personally be inclined to do such a thing, but many others would, and do, every day.

So yeah, it has its place and its uses, and no Church Lady is going to "shame" me otherwise. I use the CL term not to denigrate religion per se, but only the type of person personified by Dana Carvey's character, complete with pursed lips/prune face.

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@Moonchilde You are being very disrespectful of men and women that donate their time to volunteer. 

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No, I'm not.  No cigar.

I expressed my opinion of people who behave like the fictional character created by Dana Carvey. I hardly think ALL men and women who volunteer resemble this character. The great majority of those whose "volunteering" involves a religious body hardly resemble the character, either.

[catwhisperer]

@happygolfcartrider...I think you have me confused with @Moonchilde. She did not make reference to people who volunteer, I did. Please refer to my post #70 that I edited regarding that issue. Thank you.

[happygolfcartrider]

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@catwhisperer wrote:

@happygolfcartrider...I think you have me confused with @Moonchilde. She did not make reference to people who volunteer, I did. Please refer to my post #70 that I edited regarding that issue. Thank you.

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My apologies to @Moonchilde