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[UpNorthGorgy]

@JoyFilled Warrior. QVC closed ALL accounts,  autoship, orders, wait list, etc.including  Q card due to someone hacking  and using my Master Card. I had a M.C. on file in my Q account with a Qcard. I had to enroll in a new Q account all over again, including this forum. I had several thousand posts.

 I received a new Master Card in a week and all charges went to fraud that were not mine. I gave up on the Q card has had to prove my identity with a video etc.and since I wasn't the hacker refused.

Any Synchrony Bank cards were automatically canceled. I just tossed my JC Penny CC Card (Synchrony) which was my very first charge card I obtained in 1974.  I had a QCard before they became involved with Synchrony ,25 years at least. 

[JoyFilled Warrior]

Well, in that case,  @UpNorthGorgy 

                          

I had my Card/Bank Acct/Full Attaché Case hacked from work, yrs ago.  Sucks! 

And later, my Full Attaché Case stolen (from my then, now, broken into Car Trunk).

       Included, with slaved-over, Binder with ~200+ Xerox Copies of Front/Back Clothes Sewing Patterns, I'd slowly copied, so I could take this Binder to the Fabric Store, love a fabric I saw, & thumb thru, & know how much material I need to buy for my selected, given Clothes pattern.  SOOO MUCH WORK!!

So much work fixing all that mishegoss! 

My sympathies! @UpNorthGorgy 

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[UpNorthGorgy]

@JoyFilled Warrior. Wow!  Thank you.  ...And Wow to your seamstress skills! You sound organized!

I knew women who would make newspaper patterns. My Mother loved to sew.  My Grandmother made all the Grandkids Pjs for Christmas cut out of heavy flannel,sewn on a Treadle Machine.

My Mother  had thread boxes ,full one of every color. I gave it to a Quilter when she passed. Patterns cut out and never finished. Donated for lap covers for Veterans to use up the pieces. She taught Tailoring in Vocational School. All the saved buttons, zippers and trims.  I liked to sort out the buttons. I never could do sewing perfect enough for her, as a perfectionist. I made most of my clothes in High School.

[JoyFilled Warrior]

Hi @UpNorthGorgy 

Yeah, too sooo long, I never replaced that Book of Patterns, front/back, but WOW, sure came in handy when material shopping.  Esp when a new/old fabric caught my eye.

Y'know, there's some SUPER DUPER handy ppl on Chat in here.

There's a great knitter, and a terrific crafter, and a gal who dresses up a famous doll.

I can hunt them up and post their nicks here if you want.  No reflection on these wonderfully talented nicknames.  It's do to my awful memory which is like a sieve - full of bunchs of holes.  heh

All of thesegals are sooo incredibly talented.  I visit them all the time to see what's new with them

  It's so delightful to see their ideas and what they produce.

Let me know if you want me to post their nicknames, k?  No problem locating them. 

[Tinkrbl44]

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@Snowpuppy wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

If you don't think lonliness comes from being alone, then you haven't been alone and have no right to say that. 

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Some of the lonlilest people I've ever known are married and living with their spouse, kids, extended family.  They have never made a life for themselves.

AF is filled with posters who failed to make a life for themselves and lack the skills to live a life after a death or divorce.

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@Snowpuppy 

What is "AF" ?  

[Tinkrbl44]

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@busymom22 wrote:

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@Mom2Dogs wrote:

I have a friend that is lonely, needy, bored, etc.... and there are plenty of people that care for her.  Unfortunately her constant neediness is driving people away.

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I think this is an issue that comes up with the topic of elderly lonliness.

There's a woman in my church I've known for years. She's 68 and is very needy and all the interactions she has with people is them fulfilling her needs,taking her to dr appointments, talking to her about what she wants to talk about,her ailments, family drama, etc.  For me it's exhausting and frankly I am way too busy with my own elderly parents and other family that I simply don't have the bandwith to spend time with her. It's unfortunate, but no matter what your age or living situation friendships are two-way and if one person dominates the other person will just not be interested in maintaining the relationship. It may leave a person feeling alone and not knowing why.

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@busymom22  @JoyFilled Warrior 

Some of the comments here are a little surprising.

Personally, I don't think some people who feel "lonely" are really lonely.  

They often have people around them ... right?  

I've always felt that many lonely just CRAVE ATTENTION.    You might term it another way.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@Sooner wrote:

I have been bashed for not thinking really older people having children is a great idea.  In many situations those kids could grow up around adults only and early in life be taking care of old parents while being alone with no family remaining.  Even your cousins are old enough to be your parents.

It isn't easy.  People who want kids need to put all of that into context before having them at a very old age.  And no, money doesn't make up for it.  

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@Sooner 

No money doesn't make up for it, but if you have younger parents there's still no guarantee they'll be around as long as you want them.  

Sometimes young men leave and leave the young wife with kids he's not prepared to deal with. 

Seems to happen too often, unfortunately.

[Sooner]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

I have been bashed for not thinking really older people having children is a great idea.  In many situations those kids could grow up around adults only and early in life be taking care of old parents while being alone with no family remaining.  Even your cousins are old enough to be your parents.

It isn't easy.  People who want kids need to put all of that into context before having them at a very old age.  And no, money doesn't make up for it.  

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@Sooner 

No money doesn't make up for it, but if you have younger parents there's still no guarantee they'll be around as long as you want them.  

Sometimes young men leave and leave the young wife with kids he's not prepared to deal with. 

Seems to happen too often, unfortunately.

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There is a pretty good guarantee that if you have a 45 year old dad, both the youngest of their families, when you are born and a 35 year old mother that you will spend a good part of your life consumed with their issues if they are fortunate enough to live long.  Talk about a sandwich situation. 

Also that you won't know your cousins, who are old enough to be your parents.  You can say oh someone might die, but in fact people who want children should consider if that child will have anyone to be family in the future. Also, do you expect that child to be an adult all their lives because you aren't young?  I've seen it happen to more than me.

I have lived this.  You can't really understand unless you have.   

[UpNorthGorgy]

@JoyFilled Warrior. I have followed Toni the doll who gets cute costumes and outfits. Thank you.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@Sooner wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

I have been bashed for not thinking really older people having children is a great idea.  In many situations those kids could grow up around adults only and early in life be taking care of old parents while being alone with no family remaining.  Even your cousins are old enough to be your parents.

It isn't easy.  People who want kids need to put all of that into context before having them at a very old age.  And no, money doesn't make up for it.  

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@Sooner 

No money doesn't make up for it, but if you have younger parents there's still no guarantee they'll be around as long as you want them.  

Sometimes young men leave and leave the young wife with kids he's not prepared to deal with. 

Seems to happen too often, unfortunately.

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There is a pretty good guarantee that if you have a 45 year old dad, both the youngest of their families, when you are born and a 35 year old mother that you will spend a good part of your life consumed with their issues if they are fortunate enough to live long.  Talk about a sandwich situation. 

Also that you won't know your cousins, who are old enough to be your parents.  You can say oh someone might die, but in fact people who want children should consider if that child will have anyone to be family in the future. Also, do you expect that child to be an adult all their lives because you aren't young?  I've seen it happen to more than me.

I have lived this.  You can't really understand unless you have.   

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@Sooner 

I understand your point.   However, no matter what, you can't guarantee what will happen in the future. 

Many times I've seen remarks in passing that if you don't have children, WHO is going to take care of you when you're old?   

IMO, Other cultures often see this differently than we do.