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[shoekitty]

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@beach-mom wrote:

@shoekitty - I was in the middle of answering another post from you when a message came up and I couldn't.

 I wanted to clarify I didn't mean here on the forums! I meant on the Internet in general, like articles from different sources. It seems like news outlets, magazines,etc. hire writers who don't review their work. They are probably paid well, and they are probably 12 - LOL!

It's different here. We're informal with each other, almost like we're talking to each other. I know a lot of times when I'm typing, I'm in a hurry, something distracts me, or DH comes in and needs something right now! Once in a while I will notice a mistake after I've already posted! I think that probably happens to a lot of us!  

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@beach-mom   no worries!  No, I don't think most of the publishers have in house editors anymore they are more scanners. lol. Usually you hire your own, then when after submission, before final copy goes to print it is checked. But I have seen errors or misprints in several works. Back in mid 70's to early 80's all publishers had editors that were assigned to books. Some authors were charged, others not. Usually a writer hires an editor before submission and before final copy goes to print.  then it is handed over to in house editor. In those days they not only looked for errors but "smut", or the "5 bad word list".  Because books could be downgraded. lol. That was my experience. 

[monicakm]

@SurferWife 

Fear not!  Relief is here.  According to multiple sources on the Internet, ending a sentence with a preposition is now legal   I don't foresee changing how I feel about that and who ok'd the change??? Sometimes I don't end a sentence with one because to do so sounds too formal for the conversation.

[occasionalrain]

@monicakm 

Avoiding a preposition at a sentence ending can be challenging and involve, in which...As soon as in which gets involved, the tone of the sentence is altered.

[AuntG]

Our language is quite complicated. I put something on the board that had me stumped, so I just picked which word to use. Maybe someone could tell me if I was correct.

In answering another poster's question about a fish lunch, I realized the word "perch" is singular and plural, and we each had one butterfly piece. Should I say "perch has a pleasant taste", or "perch have a pleasant taste"? 

[Desert Lily]

@monicakm  In the past, I've often used the Purdue (University) OWL website as the resource for current accepted practices in grammar, punctuation, usage, format, etc.

The APA is an excellent source for structure & clarity in writing academic text.

[monicakm]

@occasionalrain 

Avoiding a preposition at a sentence ending can be challenging and involve, in which...As soon as in which gets involved, the tone of the sentence is altered.

Not gonna lie, that makes zero sense to me lol

[monicakm]

@Desertdi 

A proper response to "thank you" ("you're welcome", is a rare thing these days.  It's usually "no problem", "sure" or "don't worry about it" and even "yep".  I'm a "you're welcome" or "you're so welcome" girly.  

[santorini]

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@monicakm wrote:

@occasionalrain 

Avoiding a preposition at a sentence ending can be challenging and involve, in which...As soon as in which gets involved, the tone of the sentence is altered.

Not gonna lie, that makes zero sense to me lol

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@monicakm It had to read that several times too. 

I think if she had written it this way, it would have made more sense:

Avoiding a preposition at the end of a sentence can be challenging.  Once you add the words "in which," it seems to take on a more formal tone.  

[monicakm]

@santorini 

If that's what she meant, it's the same thing I said earlier in the thread.  I would like to avoid ending a sentence in a preposition, but more often than not, it sounds too formal for the setting.  I guess all that is a moot point now that SOMEone, SOMEwhere with SOME special credentials has deemed it a non-issue.  You know you don't have enough on your proverbial plate if this is what keeps you up at night lol

[JoyFilled Warrior]

I remember..   Eons ago, as students, one of our "Junior High School" Teacher's,  Homework Assignments was: 

      We students were to submit, minimum (5) English/Grammar Mistakes we located on TV Commercials, at that time:

I was Shocked!   Finding (5), bonafide, Teacher-approved such speaking/presented English TV errors was soo Easy-Peasy!!      Go figure!  

I mean, this erring "stuff" was, & still is "Media fed" to us all the time!     

Having said that, be as it may, later on in my professional life, when I was fortunate enough to be assigned my own Sec'y, & Staff, my English, then went to  *******        I still see evidence of it, even, esp,  when I succeed in remembering to use "QForum spellcheck" here!!     And I'm sure, it still doesnt catch everything!