Adoption and conceiving through IVF - Page 6

GingerPeach · ‎03-12-2010

@Trinity11 wrote:
@GingerPeach wrote:
No it's not, @Trinity11
It's only offensive because some humans think of pets as beneath us.
There is no such thing as "just a dog." Or "just" any creature.

If we honored animals, they wouldn't be lesser beings in any sense.

It's the fault of humans that we do not understand more about animals. Dogs sure do their best to understand us and love us no matter what.

@GingerPeachI have a dog.....many of them over the years and sorry but I would never compare the adoption of my grandson or myself to the adoption of an animal.

That's fine, @Trinity11. But maybe the problem this world has is that people don't take ENOUGH care with adopting a pet. If we put more care and thought into that, why should it be offensive?

Some dogs are as noble as some humans. (And some are not.) It's an individual thing. It's not a "class" thing.

It's not based on anything but the fact that all of us exist in this world with other sentient creatures.

Humans are not superior; animals are not inferior.

I respect pretty much all your posts that I've ever read but disagree with you on being offended by animal comparisons. I think it's more complex than what we've been led to believe over the years.

So let's just shake hands and go have a cup of tea and talk about something else.

[was Homegirl] Love to be home . . . thus the screen name. Joined 2003.

occasionalrain · ‎03-10-2010

What possible reason would I have for "damage control"?

I have nothing to lose or gain. I'm not a people pleaser. I'm not upset if someone dislikes me unless they have some power to affect my life like an employer who can give me a raise or fire me.

I have my views and you have yours. We both have the same opportunity to share them on the BB.

suzyQ3 · ‎03-09-2010

I would have no qualms telling my biological daughter that she was "chosen" and that she is "special." I see nothing deceitful in doing so and nothing deceitful in any parent telling their child that, regardless of the cirumstances.

Sometimes it's a deficit to be so darn literal.

~Who in the world am I? Ah, that's the great puzzle~ Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

proudlyfromNJ · ‎05-01-2010

@Trinity11. There are a few, well maybe more than a few posters that are not worth bothering with. Best to skip over their posts, the lecturers, know it alls, etc. Makes reading the board so much nicer. Just be glad you don't know them in real life. I certainly am.

Shanus · ‎05-17-2010

@occasionalrain wrote:
A falsehood no matter how well intended is still deceit. I know of no one, no couple who wanted a child and didn't turn to adoption only after finding they were unable to produce a biological child. How is that not a second choice or even a last resort?

That does not mean the adopted child is not loved or cherished and considered a blessing. The issue I have is the dishonesty. The fairytale story of being chosen as though there were several babies from which to choose when the only choice was to adopt or remain childless.

@occasionalrain Anjolina Jolie comes to mind.....adopted many children and also had biological children. I’m sure there are so many more parents with huge hearts who give children homes, as well as getting pregnant. BTW, most people are advised never to tell their adopted child that they were chosen. I never used that word with my son. We didn’t “choose” him. We waited on a list for 2 years and then he was placed in our family knowing that he’d be treated equally if I did get pregnant. The social workers and interviewers and attorneys involved make darn sure of that. We’re talking about a child’s life....not a puppy.