topic Re: Full Disclosure in Suggestion Box

Full Disclosure

BJRich — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 04:26:27 GMT

I believe QVC owes it to its customers to put on their website for every beauty/skincare product whether or not it is cruelty free, also I think they owe it to us to tell us where exactly an item is made..ex. just bought two beauty items..a foundation and some eye shadow pencils only to get them home and see that they're both made in China...I would not have bought them in the first place if I had known that...I know they are just trying to sell sell sell as much as possible, but as a long time customer...I believe they should be transparent with these things...they owe it to us...

Re: Full Disclosure

Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 08:45:10 GMT

It's not as easy as you think. Various manufacturers have facilities in more than one country.

For example, if a vendor has clothing factories in China, Thailand and India, there's really no telling which country your ordered sweater will actually come from. Then what?

Another example ... a vendor may assemble a blender in Mexico, but the parts come from Japan, Thailand and Sweden. Then what?

Just examples to make my point, of course.

It's obvious you don't buy only items made in the U.S., but usually QVC indicates "Imported" when manufactured elsewhere.

Re: Full Disclosure

Another new name Sue — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 11:57:09 GMT

Even when a product is "made in the USA," ingredients to make it can come from other countries, and often do. There are ingredients which are not available in the US or are astronomically expensive here.

Re: Full Disclosure

CalminHeart — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 12:28:47 GMT

@BJRich wrote:
I believe QVC owes it to its customers to put on their website for every beauty/skincare product whether or not it is cruelty free, also I think they owe it to us to tell us where exactly an item is made..ex. just bought two beauty items..a foundation and some eye shadow pencils only to get them home and see that they're both made in China...I would not have bought them in the first place if I had known that...I know they are just trying to sell sell sell as much as possible, but as a long time customer...I believe they should be transparent with these things...they owe it to us...

It's easy to get this information with a search on the internet.

Big deal if it's made in China. So many U.S. companies outsourced to China. So little is manufactured in the U.S. and that won't change until tax laws change to significantly punish U.S. companies that outsource.

Besides, we want China and other countries to buy from us so we have to buy from them. Just look at what the tariffs did to U.S. farmers when other countries went elsewhere for grain, corn, beef, pork, etc.

Who pays for those tariffs? You and me.

Who pays for all the government welfare handed out to (mostly rich) farmers? You and me.

Re: Full Disclosure

rms1954 — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 13:15:28 GMT

It's up to the manufacturer of the product which they should provide.

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Sweet Kitties — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 14:54:47 GMT

I agree! I don't want to wear eye makeup when it's so close to my eyes if it comes from China.

Re: Full Disclosure

vsm — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 15:52:00 GMT

@BJRich wrote:
I believe QVC owes it to its customers to put on their website for every beauty/skincare product whether or not it is cruelty free, also I think they owe it to us to tell us where exactly an item is made..ex. just bought two beauty items..a foundation and some eye shadow pencils only to get them home and see that they're both made in China...I would not have bought them in the first place if I had known that...I know they are just trying to sell sell sell as much as possible, but as a long time customer...I believe they should be transparent with these things...they owe it to us...

You should ssume that everything is made in China unless explicitly told otherwise. Unfortunately, that's the reality of the situation. The burden is on you, not on QVC. "Caveat emptor" is as true today as it ever was.

Re: Full Disclosure

Kachina624 — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 16:39:40 GMT

@Sweet Kitties wrote:
I agree! I don't want to wear eye makeup when it's so close to my eyes if it comes from China.

@Sweet Kitties It's kind of ironic that you're scared of Chinese-made cosmetics but have probably swallowed many Chinese-manufactured prescription and over-the-counter drugs.

Re: Full Disclosure

Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 20:29:49 GMT

@Sweet Kitties wrote:
I agree! I don't want to wear eye makeup when it's so close to my eyes if it comes from China.

@Sweet Kitties

Just curious .... just which countries ARE acceptable?

Re: Full Disclosure

Sooner — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 20:38:45 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Sweet Kitties wrote:
I agree! I don't want to wear eye makeup when it's so close to my eyes if it comes from China.

@Sweet Kitties

Just curious .... just which countries ARE acceptable?

Italy, France, England, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, and other countries that have standards. I do not put China in that category. I buy everything I can buy not from China. I have to, but I try to avoid it.

No apologies

Re: Full Disclosure

Venezia — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 20:39:07 GMT

@BJRich - QVC does not "owe it to us" to tell us the origin of any item they are selling, any more than any other retailer - online or B&M - does.

It's up to the individual consumer to research what's important and acceptable to her.

These days, you have access to all the information you need, right at the tip of your fingers. Research first; purchase second.

(And being a "long time customer" has no more bearing on it than being a brand new customer.)

Re: Full Disclosure

Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 20:40:04 GMT

@CalminHeart wrote:
@BJRich wrote:
I believe QVC owes it to its customers to put on their website for every beauty/skincare product whether or not it is cruelty free, also I think they owe it to us to tell us where exactly an item is made..ex. just bought two beauty items..a foundation and some eye shadow pencils only to get them home and see that they're both made in China...I would not have bought them in the first place if I had known that...I know they are just trying to sell sell sell as much as possible, but as a long time customer...I believe they should be transparent with these things...they owe it to us...

It's easy to get this information with a search on the internet.

Big deal if it's made in China. So many U.S. companies outsourced to China. So little is manufactured in the U.S. and that won't change until tax laws change to significantly punish U.S. companies that outsource.

Besides, we want China and other countries to buy from us so we have to buy from them. Just look at what the tariffs did to U.S. farmers when other countries went elsewhere for grain, corn, beef, pork, etc.
Who pays for those tariffs? You and me.
Who pays for all the government welfare handed out to (mostly rich) farmers? You and me.

@CalminHeart @BJRich

I'm not sure we can "punish" companies that outsourced in order to remain competitive ... and survive.

People love to act so self-righteous about only wanting to buy American, but I think that's a lot of hot air. If companies were to build manufacturing facilities in the U.S. and then hire American workers at union wage scales, the prices on everything would SKYROCKET.

And, frankly, most people want to get the best prices possible .... and that won't be by buying products made in our country.

It's a very complicated situation ... and, yes, we have many, many international trade agreements. Countries work together to support each others' imports and exports, to keep their economies from failing.

IMO, from what I've read, it's an economic fact of life ... and the whole world participates. This works ... and is nothing new.

Re: Full Disclosure

Sweet Kitties — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 21:37:43 GMT

Kachina624, Why must you always be so snarky? Is it fun for you?

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SilleeMee — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 03:22:32 GMT

Some small part, or some particular ingredient, in everything bought and sold comes from overseas and most likely from China.

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San Antonio Gal — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 04:39:34 GMT

@Sweet Kitties wrote:
Kachina624, Why must you always be so snarky? Is it fun for you?

@Sweet Kitties - I don't think @Kachina624 is intending to be snarky. She's just saying that the medicine you take - script or OTC - is more than likely from China.

Re: Full Disclosure

CalminHeart — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:57:39 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@CalminHeart wrote:
@BJRich wrote:
I believe QVC owes it to its customers to put on their website for every beauty/skincare product whether or not it is cruelty free, also I think they owe it to us to tell us where exactly an item is made..ex. just bought two beauty items..a foundation and some eye shadow pencils only to get them home and see that they're both made in China...I would not have bought them in the first place if I had known that...I know they are just trying to sell sell sell as much as possible, but as a long time customer...I believe they should be transparent with these things...they owe it to us...

It's easy to get this information with a search on the internet.

Big deal if it's made in China. So many U.S. companies outsourced to China. So little is manufactured in the U.S. and that won't change until tax laws change to significantly punish U.S. companies that outsource.

Besides, we want China and other countries to buy from us so we have to buy from them. Just look at what the tariffs did to U.S. farmers when other countries went elsewhere for grain, corn, beef, pork, etc.
Who pays for those tariffs? You and me.
Who pays for all the government welfare handed out to (mostly rich) farmers? You and me.

@CalminHeart @BJRich

I'm not sure we can "punish" companies that outsourced in order to remain competitive ... and survive.

People love to act so self-righteous about only wanting to buy American, but I think that's a lot of hot air. If companies were to build manufacturing facilities in the U.S. and then hire American workers at union wage scales, the prices on everything would SKYROCKET.

And, frankly, most people want to get the best prices possible .... and that won't be by buying products made in our country.

It's a very complicated situation ... and, yes, we have many, many international trade agreements. Countries work together to support each others' imports and exports, to keep their economies from failing.

IMO, from what I've read, it's an economic fact of life ... and the whole world participates. This works ... and is nothing new.

I completely agree. That's how economies work and how the world has to function to survive.

Sadly, some people prefer to believe propaganda spewed by politicians instead of learning how and why things function. People continue to vote against their own best interests and it all goes back to ignorance about how things really work.

All I meant by punishing companies that outsource is that they are all big corporations, which currently get most of the tax breaks. Congress has to change tax laws before companies start bringing production home.

Corporations will never bring production home. They prefer cheap labor, price gouging, and profits over people.

People need to stop whining about buying USA made. Sure, it'd be great, but it is not going to change.