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They are not jeans, they are pants

depglass — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 22:36:09 GMT

A jean has a real zipper and flat felled seams going down the legs. Like Levi's. These pull on tight leg almost leggings are not jeans.

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Kachina624 — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 22:45:16 GMT

Thats your definition. There are different styles, and while what I wear aren't Levis, they're jeans as far as I'm concerned.

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vermint — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 23:05:28 GMT

I agree with what @Kachina624 said!

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Bookplate — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 23:13:40 GMT

From Dictionary.com:

Jeans are a type of pants traditionally made from denim (a kind of cotton fabric).

The word most commonly refers to denim blue jeans. Jeans can be other colors, but they’re most commonly blue. The defining feature of most jeans is that they’re made out of some kind of denim or denim-like fabric. Most jeans have seams and pockets that are reinforced with rivets—small metal fasteners.

The word jeans can technically be used to refer to pants made from other materials, such as corduroy, but this isn’t common. For example, pants made out of corduroy are commonly called corduroys.

Jeans were originally worn as pants for rugged work, but they are now most commonly worn as casual attire.

Like the words pants and trousers, jeans is always used in the plural form when referring to the pants.

The word jean (without an s at the end) can be used to refer to the material and is typically used as a modifier to describe garments that are made of this material, as in jean jacket or jean shorts.

From Merriam Webster:

Definition of jean

1: a durable twilled cotton cloth used especially for sportswear and work clothes

2usually jeans \ ˈjēnz \ : pants usually made of denim or jean

Re: They are not jeans, they are pants

Love my grandkids — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 23:43:14 GMT

@depglass That's your opinion only. Not mine. Not everyone's.

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Foxxee — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 00:05:35 GMT

I may be the only one agreeing with you and not at all popular. Jeans are made from real denim, 100% cotton or with 2% spandex, not the faux denim they are selling on QVC.

Similar to faux leather used on clothing and shoes. It might resemble leather, but it isn't the real thing.

Real jeans don't have elastic waists, faux zippers and pockets. No leggings, jeggings, or crops. They do have belt loops around the waist. They sit at the waist, not below.

Yes, the original Levi's of yesteryear are real jeans.

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reviewer from sc — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 00:17:51 GMT

Agree with OP and Foxeee. Probably not a popular opinion, but it's hard to find "real" jeans today. It's why I shop ebay and other such sites (and consignment shops) for vintage clothing. Today's clothes are definitely different--in material and style.

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frenchie — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 00:22:42 GMT

To me any style pant made of denim material, no matter the color is a jean. Im old enough that I called them dungarees in my day. Ha!

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spumoni99 — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 00:39:12 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
Thats your definition. There are different styles, and while what I wear aren't Levis, they're jeans as far as I'm concerned.

Agree! Things like this are not forever static in their definition, one should go with the times.

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Kachina624 — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 00:57:58 GMT

What @depglass is describing is the original Levi jean of 50 or 60 years ago that came in one color, one cut. The early ones were not cut for women and we have visions of slim hipped young girls on the bed trying to pull up boy's jeans. Those of us broader in the hips wore something else.

Denim caught on, was discovered by designers and enterprising manufacturers and the next thing you know we had different shades of blue, gray, brown, white, olive and black along with a variety of leg shapes and widths. Flat felled seams were too stiff and heavy so they're often absent. New fibers were added to the traditional stiff cotton denim to make it softer, silkier and lighter weight for women. Elastic was added for comfort and convenience.

So, yes, they're different, but they're still jeans. They've just gone through an inevitable evolution. Thank goodness as the old ones were impossibly uncomfortable.

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TheMemphisVette — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 01:27:17 GMT

2022

Re: They are not jeans, they are pants

depglass — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:50:33 GMT

I formed my opinion as a men's sportswear buyer many years ago. So after reading these replies I thought "Perhaps things have changed." I went to the Levi's and Lee websites. They are still making jeans out of traditional denim with zippers etc. No "pants" were included. One thing I found was new, Lee now owns Wrangler, DH's favorite jean. .

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kindred cats — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 15:57:45 GMT

All opinions and definitions are very interesting to me. I will always search for the most comfortable "jean" style I can find or they won't get worn at all.

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CalminHeart — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:22:21 GMT

I don't care what they call them. Definitions change/evolve all the time. You can't do anything about it so let it go.

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LilMadi — Wed, 21 Sep 2022 23:09:46 GMT

Foxxee wrote: "

I may be the only one agreeing with you and not at all popular. Jeans are made from real denim, 100% cotton or with 2% spandex, not the faux denim they are selling on QVC.

Similar to faux leather used on clothing and shoes. It might resemble leather, but it isn't the real thing.

Real jeans don't have elastic waists, faux zippers and pockets. No leggings, jeggings, or crops. They do have belt loops around the waist. They sit at the waist, not below.

Yes, the original Levi's of yesteryear are real jeans. "

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You're not the only one, I agree with you and the op.

Re: They are not jeans, they are pants

Sooner — Wed, 21 Sep 2022 23:25:41 GMT

@depglass wrote:
A jean has a real zipper and flat felled seams going down the legs. Like Levi's. These pull on tight leg almost leggings are not jeans.

@depglass I think you are spot on. There are jeans, a fashion icon, and there are denim pants. Not the same thing.

If a real cowboy wouldn't wear them to the feed store, they aren't jeans.

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Katcat1 — Wed, 21 Sep 2022 23:44:09 GMT

The skin tight pants, levis need to go! They are not attractive on. If you want skin tight stick with your leggings.

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VancouverUSAgal — Thu, 22 Sep 2022 16:49:38 GMT

The same thing has happened with the term "sweatshirt." A true sweatshirt is ma de of the fabric that's smooth on the outside and fleece on the inside. They are now calling anything of a similar style sweatshirts no matter what the fabric. French terry is not a sweatshirt! Drives me crazy.