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To Moderators

jubilant — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 12:54:11 GMT

I am appalled at how you allowed the character assassination of one of your hosts go on and on this past week. This cannot be good for anyone. We all know that there are quite a few here just waiting for an excuse to make a host they dislike a target for character assassination. I am tired of it. If it hadn't been this host...... it would have been another host. Until you, the moderators, can tell the difference between a genuine complaint or an outright "verbal attack" on another person..... or have a place where people can complain that doesn't humiliate the host....I think it wise not to even mention a host's name here. You guys and gals didn't stop it.....so the host was forced to. How sad when it gets to that point. She was right to defend herself and I say "bully for her"! I may have a favorite host and not know this host very well...but this host works hard and has come a long way. She didn't deserve what she got.

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151949 — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 13:21:25 GMT

ITA , OP. The mods should have stopped it, since the posters seem to be toom immature to stop themselves.

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PINKdogWOOD — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 13:37:11 GMT

I report these type of posts myself as 'inappropriate'. This kind of activity is just not at all necessary.

My Dad always taught us that "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything". Thank you Dad for your words of wisdom.

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shopontv — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 13:40:04 GMT

To Jubilant - Point very well taken! I so agree!

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gmkb — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:01:52 GMT

I have tried to understand why this woman's words, posts, blogs bring out the worse side of both supporters and non supporters. Non supporters take issue with everything she says and does and supporters resort to the worse name calling imaginable.

It invariably gets ugly.

Hosts, supporters and non supporters all need to weigh their words and moderators need to be diligent in shutting down anything that hints of dissension before it ever gets going.

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millieshops — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:45:52 GMT

@PINKdogWOODGood move. I wasn't here for whatever ugliness went on, but reporting something really egregious just makes sense to me.

I can't imagine being a moderator - being expected to read each post faster than lightening and deciding to pull the unwanted. Giving them a heads-up is good community relations; they can always choose what they feel is the appropriate action.

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Buck-i-Nana — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:46:39 GMT

For the record, I dont' condone attacking anyone - hosts, vendors or other forum participants. That said, I read Shawn's FB posting and she specifically talked about instagram, not this forum. Instagram apparently became a war-zone between some animal rights folks and some Shawn fans/protectors - both sides contribute to those wars. We've seen that behavior here as well. The moderators here did remove those posts that went over the top here as well as the posts that got personal from one poster to another. They have since of course locked the thread.

I don't see how Shawn's posting on FB solves anything, honestly. I understand she was hurt, but she needs to step back and think about what many people posted regarding the topic in a reasonable manner. What many folks tried to convey was that it isn't something to joke about because torture and killing of black cats around Halloween is an ugly problem. It would have gone a long way, IMHO, if Shawn at least acknowledged that, admitting she was unaware it was such an awful thing and apologize! We all make mistakes, don't compound it by not learning from them.

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ValuSkr — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:57:39 GMT

Oh, it was Shawn and the black cat thread, I was wondering. Thank you @Buck-i-Nana.

I didn't read everything that was written but it seemed to be much ado about nothing. So, she's superstitious - a lot of people are, especially around Halloween. I don't believe she said she wanted to harm the poor animal.

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Buck-i-Nana — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 15:04:16 GMT

@ValuSkr wrote:
Oh, it was Shawn and the black cat thread, I was wondering. Thank you @Buck-i-Nana.

I didn't read everything that was written but it seemed to be much ado about nothing. So, she's superstitious - a lot of people are, especially around Halloween. I don't believe she said she wanted to harm the poor animal.

She didn't say she wanted to harm it, no, and I viewed it as just more of the silliness that QVC seems to insist on these days. The problem though is, in this case, that silliness and joking about "oh a black cat, I'm doomed" makes light of a significant problem that many people who are involved in animal rescue see all too often around Halloween - that being the torture and mutilation of black cats out of superstition or sick fun....it's really not something to joke about. JMHO.

ETA - this is such an issue that in my area, the cat rescues and animal shelters do not adopt out any black cats during Oct. People were actually purchasing them to torture and kill them. We need to stop perpetuating the black cats are evil or a jinx stories.

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PenneyT — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 15:20:10 GMT

I too feel that it was mainly a pile-on against a host that some people seem to really dislike.

It looked like she had taken a photo of a small, young cat, not a tiny kitten, through a side-light on a front door.

Lots of people are afraid of certain animals, have had bad experiences with animals, etc..I love cats and dogs and birds, but not everyone is prepared to contact a strange animal.

The telling point to me was the amount of rage focused at the host, and very little being said about whoever dumped the cat, if it even was dumped and not simply wandering its territory.

Educating people about animal abuse is one thing, treating a person as an animal abuser is another.

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Karnerblue — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:02:18 GMT

There's no accounting for class. People show their true souls through their words.

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QVCkitty1 — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:48:38 GMT

I don't see much character to be assassinated . If this seems harsh so be it.

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Samara — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 22:56:29 GMT

Yes, once again it is now the qvc moderators fault and the posters fault for character assassination for her mess. The thread was closed and innocent posters had posts deleted that never mentioned anyone just personal stories early on. When these posts got deleted the tone changed. Obviously, by starting this thread it is still not good enough for the host's fan base.

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Peoplearenuts — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 00:24:48 GMT

When is QVC going to get it that Shawn's behavior and "soap box" issues are so divisive? Someone needs to reign her in or let her go. She is there to sell products - not to keep expressing her personal beliefs and opinions.

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Moonchilde — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 01:14:00 GMT

Basically, QVC needs to create a blanket taboo - no forum members may comment on any host or vendor, good or bad, period. The end.

No poster has the "right" to trash another poster. Why should they assume they can trash hosts

ad nauseum? It is not constructive criticism. It is not "I would think QVC would want to know." No matter what the protestations of innocence, or "helping" the host or QVC, IT.IS.BASHING - and it will continue forever - and is much, much worse and more frequent on the new forums than the old.

Moderator: This person has started 5 host-bashing threads in 4 days. That's enough. Make note of her IP, warn her, and if she starts #8 she's out."

The rest of the forum: Yaaay!

It's sad that a few people with the emotional maturity of 13 year olds have to make something like that necessary.

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Lorik62 — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 01:14:54 GMT

No one is forcing you to watch her. Time to let it go.

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MaggieMack — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 02:01:43 GMT

When the entity QVC thought it was a great idea to have their hosts all have QVC host Facebook pages, they opened the doors. Ditto Instagram or Twitter. And they push people to these pages! So, if the hosts don't want to engage the universe and receive posts that are less than all sweetness and light, those hosts should be prepared to post only innocuous comments that no sensible person can disagree with. It's why I don't post on a FB page. Not worth the potential vitriol that it could generate. IMO, SK didn't think through her post before hitting return. Maybe she needs a gatekeeper over her posts and another one to fact check the statements she's made through the years. I used to adore her, lately it just seems like a nonstop sales pitch. Good for QVC, not so good for her.

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GingerPeach — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 02:11:03 GMT

@Buck-i-Nana wrote:
For the record, I dont' condone attacking anyone - hosts, vendors or other forum participants. That said, I read Shawn's FB posting and she specifically talked about instagram, not this forum. Instagram apparently became a war-zone between some animal rights folks and some Shawn fans/protectors - both sides contribute to those wars. We've seen that behavior here as well. The moderators here did remove those posts that went over the top here as well as the posts that got personal from one poster to another. They have since of course locked the thread.

I don't see how Shawn's posting on FB solves anything, honestly. I understand she was hurt, but she needs to step back and think about what many people posted regarding the topic in a reasonable manner. What many folks tried to convey was that it isn't something to joke about because torture and killing of black cats around Halloween is an ugly problem. It would have gone a long way, IMHO, if Shawn at least acknowledged that, admitting she was unaware it was such an awful thing and apologize! We all make mistakes, don't compound it by not learning from them.

Here is, I think, the heart of the issue (in bold). All I read on Instagram was a whole lot of defensiveness and not one word about responsibility from SK. Well said, @Buck-i-Nana

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jubilant — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 12:07:58 GMT

When I saw that segment with Shawn...my first reaction was..."poor kitty". When I saw the picture, I thought...."this does not look like a small kitten and is probably an older or "teen" cat. That made it better right there. Then I thought to myself, it looks pretty well fed, and it's probably not cold there. That is called giving people the benefit of the doubt. When some here don't like a host as a host (or a person, I might add) they go after that person with a vengeance and do far more harm than she ever could or would do to a cat. Not a kitten. I will take Shawn any day over any person here that does this to another human being. Yes, evil happens to animals, but this was not the case here and we know it for sure now and those same people still are doing it to her on this topic. I knew they would and sure enough, some of them showed up. Good! Please take notice moderators.

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NativeJax — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:00:32 GMT

I think there are some posters on here who are like the bullies in grade school. I usually just get on here on the weekends because I work a lot and use to enjoy reading the forums and still do but I am growing weary with how people use this as a soapbox or hidden agendas.....if your into special interests why not post on your special interests blogs....I am sure they are out there. If you don't like the hosts and vendors, fine don't watch and many claim they don't watch but they sure know every move and word these people say. They look for something to moan about.....anyway to me it's very childish....