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be forewarned

shortbreadlover — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:38:58 GMT

smithfield prok is owned by a company from china

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Nightowlz — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:44:21 GMT

Yep that happened a while back. Don't remember when but someone posted about it.

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kittyloo — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:46:50 GMT

why does it matter where the parent company is located?

the hams are not processed there. the meat i presume doesn't come from there either. ???

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blackhole99 — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 19:06:26 GMT

@kittyloo wrote:
why does it matter where the parent company is located?
the hams are not processed there. the meat i presume doesn't come from there either. ???

I wouldn't be so sure about that, I'll have to Goggle it. I buy local pork if I want a pork product.

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blackhole99 — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:01:54 GMT

I looked it up, the company is indeed owned by China now, but the pigs are raised in the US and processed in Virginia.

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shortbreadlover — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:02:21 GMT

some folks just do not want to do business with a company owned by china. i feel that the smithfield has cut corners when the company from china took over

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blackhole99 — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:11:34 GMT

@shortbreadlover wrote:
some folks just do not want to do business with a company owned by china. i feel that the smithfield has cut corners when the company from china took over

Of course that fact would not be covered in the news for the general public, unless someone on the inside complained. I don't doubt that it could be a concern.

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Jtdmum — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:13:36 GMT

Tarrifs maybe? Not local?

Smithfield is a big no for me- Glad I'm not a Ham or Bacon loving person.

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novamc1 — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:44:47 GMT

@shortbreadlover

The ownership change at Smithfield is old news.

The company's products are still grown and processed here in the U.S. (and extensively exported to China, which wants and needs the product, or at least it used to before whatever new tariff agreements have been worked out between the U.S. and China.)

Common sense dictates that it makes no sense to raise pigs and hogs here and export them to China for processing and then send them back to our grocery stores.

The sale of Smithfield to a Chinese company was a financial/economic move that probably saved the company and helped keep it operating in a poor economic environment. I seem to recall news reports to that effect.

One other aspect of the hog/pig business is that a large chunk of it got wiped out in eastern North Carolina because of the recent hurricane. Very sad what happened to the farms, one of which I visited many years ago. It was owned by the grandparents of a good friend of mine.

That entire region has taken a huge hit to its crops, livestock, and other things that support the economy--and this probably just raises food prices for the rest of us.

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phoenixbrd — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:32:29 GMT

I hate to think of the cruelty.

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MarkeieMark — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:37:19 GMT

China can keep them.

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novamc1 — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:53:10 GMT

It always helps to look up a company if its business or its products are in question.

https://www.smithfieldfoods.com/about-smithfield

We’re still based in the town where we were founded 80 years ago.

Based in Smithfield, Virginia, in the United States, we are the leader in numerous packaged meats categories with popular brands including Smithfield®, Eckrich®, Nathan’s Famous®, Farmland®, Armour®, Cook’s®, John Morrell®, Gwaltney®, Kretschmar®, Margherita®, Curly’s®, Carando®, and Healthy Ones®. Smithfield Foods is committed to providing good food in a responsible way and maintains robust animal care, community involvement, employee safety, environmental, and food safety and quality programs.

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Daysdee — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 21:04:08 GMT

This is really old news. A lot of discussion of this when Paula Deen was the rep. on QVC. Long time ago.

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Drythe — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 21:49:31 GMT

@novamc1 wrote:
@shortbreadlover

The ownership change at Smithfield is old news.

The company's products are still grown and processed here in the U.S. (and extensively exported to China, which wants and needs the product, or at least it used to before whatever new tariff agreements have been worked out between the U.S. and China.)

Common sense dictates that it makes no sense to raise pigs and hogs here and export them to China for processing and then send them back to our grocery stores.

The sale of Smithfield to a Chinese company was a financial/economic move that probably saved the company and helped keep it operating in a poor economic environment. I seem to recall news reports to that effect.

One other aspect of the hog/pig business is that a large chunk of it got wiped out in eastern North Carolina because of the recent hurricane. Very sad what happened to the farms, one of which I visited many years ago. It was owned by the grandparents of a good friend of mine.

That entire region has taken a huge hit to its crops, livestock, and other things that support the economy--and this probably just raises food prices for the rest of us.

@novamc1

Thank you for reminding everyone about the HUGE loses in this region, many had not even recovered from MATTHEW.

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Drythe — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 21:51:48 GMT

@phoenixbrd wrote:
I hate to think of the cruelty.

@phoenixbrd

I totally agree, cruel life, cruel death. 😭

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SandPiper — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 22:28:00 GMT

@phoenixbrd I agree. There are articles online about Smithfield if anyone is interested in reading them.

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phoenixbrd — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 22:50:16 GMT

@SandPiper @Drythe At Smithsfield 30,000 precious animals are slaughtered a day.

A typical slaughterhouse kills up to 1,100 pigs every hour. The sheer number of animals killed makes it impossible for them to be given humane, painless deaths. Because of improper stunning, many pigs are alive when they reach the scalding tank, which is intended to soften their skin and remove their hair.

I pray people will wake-up!

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shortbreadlover — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 22:57:56 GMT

i wish that they would too. people just have n idea

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Emmie1165 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:12:22 GMT

As do I... everyone please adopt a plant based diet. “Ham” “Pork” aka sentient being called a pig, is unhealthy to consume, physically and spiritually.

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SandPiper — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:48:28 GMT

@phoenixbrd Your statistics are staggering. For me, I started reading the horrifying articles. I forced myself to look at the horrendous and heartbreaking pictures. I had enough of it and adopted a plant based diet. Just wish I had done this long ago.