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Bird Feeder Question

Ainhisg — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:04:43 GMT

I have never had a bird feeder. We have started feeding squirrels, and birds have started hanging around, so I am considering getting a bird feeder. What kind of feeder (and feed) will encourage cardinals and other desirable birds? Is there a bird feeder that cardinals will use but not blackbirds? I bought some Pennington wild bird seed and broadcast it on the ground just to see what would happen. Blackbirds came quickly and devoured it...not all of it...but a lot. lol

Thank you for all recommendations. If you could post a screenshot of the feeder you recommend and where to get it, that would be so very helpful!

ETA: Will robins eat from a bird feeder? If not, how do I attract them to our yard?

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on the bay — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:10:47 GMT

@Ainhisg,

I've found that cardinals and robins like to eat from the ground. I have a new bird feeder now and the squirrels love it! I've only seen 2 birds (not cardinals or robins) use it quickly.

I think any bird feeder needs to have good drainage for when it rains, so it doesn't get moldy seeds etc.

I'll look forward to any suggestions too!

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drizzellla — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:18:04 GMT

We have several birdfeeders in our backyard.

The cardinals hang around the 360 degree feeder that has a roof and ledge at the bottom. The birds sit on the ledge and the birdseed falls down onto the ledge. Every bird, except doves, seem to hang out on that feeder.

There are certain birdseeds that attract cardinals and will say so on the label.

We have finch feeders too. But every bird also hangs on the finch feeder, even woodpeckers.

The starlings come in all the time. They are able to empty the large 360 degree feeder in no time. They chase all the other birds away because there are so many. Have not been able to discourage them. So we buy 50 pound bags of various seed and 5 boxes of peanut suet every couple of weeks. We are regulars at the bird feed store.

PS Last night I looked out at the bird feeders. Momma Cardinal was the only bird out there (it was dark and all the other birds had gone to bed). She was eating the seeds that had fallen to the ground. And lots of seeds fall to the ground. The bag of food has "attracts Cardinals and Finches" on the package.

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on the bay — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:23:01 GMT

@drizzellla,

That sounds more like ones I used to have. How do you clean the inside? Is that where the seeds are falling onto the ledge from?

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Icegoddess — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:33:16 GMT

I have one of those bird feeders that close up if something too heavy gets on it. It's supposed to be squirrel-proof, but they have figured out how to hang from the top of it and eat. I'm not denying the squirrels, although I'm mad at them right now for digging up my freshly planted hosta. But, I have another large feeder hanging on the fence for them.

I ONLY use black oil sunflower seed in my feeders. This attracts the desirable birds, but the other birds aren't interested. I tried the finch feeder with the niger seeds and they completely ignored it. I get cardinals, nuthatches, chickadees, bluebirds (but not blue jays), finches, etc. at that feeder. The cardinals do feed at the feeder, Robins never come to the feeder, but they'll follow me around when I'm pulling weeds or digging hoping for some worms. I had a pair of Rose-Breasted Grosbeaks at my feeder yesterday. They're migratory and are just passing through, but they show up every year. Pic below.

I also have a suet feeder for the woodpeckers and another small feeder with mealworms mostly for the bluebirds.

The problem with squirrels is they will tear up your feeders, so get sturdy metal ones if you're going to share.

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Ainhisg — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:46:36 GMT

@Icegoddess thank you so much! I will look for those seeds. In your photo, was the slinky thing already attached to the pole, or is that something you bought separately? I'm assuming that's to keep the squirrels at bay.

ETA: Where is the cheapest place to get the sunflower seeds?

Re: Bird Feeder Question

drizzellla — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:41:52 GMT

@on the bay wrote:
@drizzellla,
That sounds more like ones I used to have. How do you clean the inside? Is that where the seeds are falling onto the ledge from?

My husband fills the feeders up almost once a day. The finch feeder is open all around so it has to be cleaned out after a steady rain. He dumps all the seeds on to the ground and spreads it out so the seed doesn't get moldy.

The 360 degree feeder with ledge, get emptied by the starlings so often that it is cleaned out almost on a daily basis.

Yes, the seeds fall onto the ledge. so the birds just sit on the ledge and eat. He also puts meal worms, peanuts and cracked corn for all the other guys that hang out at the bird feeder.

And we are always are on the look out for cats and other critters, fox, hawks etc.They are now saying we have a coyote in the area.

We make sure that there is always something for all the regulars. That way they keep coming on a regular basis.

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piperbay — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:46:50 GMT

I have different types of feeders.

A square basket one with mesh that I put woodpecker mix in, which has seeds that have have shells on them. It collects all the mess so it's not on ground.

A ceramic hanging dish that I put no mess (shelled) bird seed in

A hanging tube feeder with niger seed for goldfinch

Also a plastic birdbath saucer on a stand for water for birds

I also throw seeds on cement on ground and the blue jays love the peanuts.

The robins do prefer the ground. I have seen cardinals eat from feeders and ground.

Also, a good quality seed matters. I buy mine at the feed store.

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on the bay — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:53:44 GMT

@drizzellla,

thanks for that good info. It is so much fun to watch the birds come every day.

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Icegoddess — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:58:35 GMT

@Ainhisg wrote:
@Icegoddess thank you so much! I will look for those seeds. In your photo, was the slinky thing already attached to the pole, or is that something you bought separately? I'm assuming that's to keep the squirrels at bay.

ETA: Where is the cheapest place to get the sunflower seeds?

@Ainhisg I mostly buy my seed at Lowes. My Home Depot doesn't have the big bags. I just price compare between Ace & Lowes & Tractor Supply. The last time I got seed, Tractor Supply had the best price and it was significantly a better price. I also noticed it had a lot less inedible junk in it. If you have a Wild Birds Unlimited store in your area, that might be a good start. I used to shop from them before they moved their store and I bought the seed in large buckets with lids that I still use to store my seed in.

Yes, that's a slinky on the shepherd's hook and it's to keep the squirrels away, although I did see one that figured out a way to get to it the other day. It helps if you have no way for them to jump to it, and there's a stump there. I used to have two trees in that bed and I hung the feeders from them, but they both died. The only way for me to have nothing for them to jump from would be to put the feeders in the middle of the yard. DH would not be happy.

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Ainhisg — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:03:51 GMT

@Icegoddess perfect! Just what I needed to know! Did the pole already come with the slinky? we do have a birds unlimited here, and it is less than a couple of miles from my house. My husband, too, would not want a pole in the middle of the yard. I will have to think about where the birdfeeder can go.

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goldensrbest — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:52:08 GMT

Black oil sunflower seeds, try walmart cardinals like to eat off ground, if you have a low shallow container,put seed in it , buy a really good feeder, one that squirrels can not get into,will look up the name of mine.

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goldensrbest — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:57:34 GMT

Brome,and droll.

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goldensrbest — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:34:52 GMT

Yes, tractor supply has good black oil sunflower seeds,better price also.

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PA Mom-mom — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:52:48 GMT

@Ainhisg We use a combo of black sunflower and safflower seeds. We get them wherever they are the least expensive. Right now, it's Amazon. We also use squirrel baffles on all of our feeders. They have worked without fail for many years. Also, don't put your bird feeders directly under or too near a tree. The squirrels can jump. The birds, however, like to have cover near the feeders, so they can stage there and swoop in to feed when they feel safe.

If you want to feed the squirrels, do so away from the bird feeders and use more squirrel friendly food, like peanuts, etc.

We get a great variety of birds. Right now we have two pair of nesting bluebirds; at least two pair of cardinals; goldfinch pairs, as well as other finches. In the winter, we get lots of winter birds. We see robins at the feeders in early spring before the worms can be teased out of the ground.

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Ainhisg — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:44:14 GMT

Thank you @PA Mom-mom ! As is evidenced by my post, I know NOTHING about feeding birds. I can't even identify most birds. We've always had dogs that had a doggy door, so no bird was safe in the backyard. Unfortunately, we lost BOTH of them last year--51 days apart. I thought my heart would never stop hurting, but it finally hurts a bit less.

What has helped my heart heal is that we have some baby squirrels in the backyard, so we decided to put out a squirrel feeder. I put an an ear of corn in the middle and peanuts all around it, and we have so enjoyed watching them! So I was doing that part right and feeding them the right things.

But the birds have come like crazy. They peck around on the ground where the corn kernels fall, but there is nothing there for them. So this is how my interest in feeding the birds developed. But I want to do it the right way and with the right feeders, baffles, feed, etc. My favorite birds to watch are the cardinals.

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cheriere — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:59:44 GMT

@Ainhisg

Thanks for posting such a great question.💝

Ive learned so much reading this thread, I'm excited about getting some new bird seed.

I have a couple squirrel feeders that take corn. They love these.

My current bird feeders attract a big variety. I guess I've been fortunate it has really attracted any blackbirds or crows.

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PA Mom-mom — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:00:07 GMT

@Ainhisg So sorry for the loss of your beloved dogs. I know that feeling well. I hope you can find a space for the squirrels and the birds. The presence of the corn might be what attracts some unwanted birds. I've watched birds all my life, although not as intensely as since I've been retired. They are a joy!

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cheriere — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:02:35 GMT

@Ainhisg

I too am so sorry for the loss of your dogs. That's one of the biggest heartbreaks we can experience. I hope you can find some peace watching the beautiful wildlife.💝💝💝

Re: Bird Feeder Question

on the bay — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:02:25 GMT

Since reading all this info, I got the incentive to ditch my current bird feeder which I knew I should.

It was very pretty and a gift and a tube like thing with mosaic glass, a little hood and a tiny ledge.

The problem is every time it rained the rain would get in all the seeds which didn't always drop down into the tray. I would pour out the rain when I could but saw a large brick of old seeds inside the tube. I was afraid of it getting moldy too and I just couldn't see scraping it out each time with a knife or something.

I might try to find one that is more cleaning friendly and doesn't collect the rain with all the seeds.

The squirrels loved hanging upside down on the tree and eating the seeds from the tray. They were so fun to watch even though it was supposed to be a bird feeder!