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Insect friend - praying mantis

GingerPeach — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:33:43 GMT

A praying mantis egg sac on the house wall. If you see something like this on your wall or on a shrub this year (or next, for those of you already with wintery weather), you are in luck and will have a friend in the garden.

And here is a young one in the asparagus fern hanging plant, peeking at me through the window. (The older ones are tan/brown.)

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Susan Louise — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:41:58 GMT

@GingerPeach They are not always a 'friend'. We patrol our gardens to keep they out. They will eat Hummingbirds!

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GingerPeach — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:56:47 GMT

You're right, @Susan Louise . Sadly, I forgot about that.

One article I read is that this practice is increasing due to humans' tendency to both attract hummingbirds with feeders and then releasing mantises for insect control.

I guess we all know that nature is all too often best left alone. Not that I'm perfect, but I no longer feed hummingbirds but instead grow salvia and other flowers that they really like. I hope I never find a hummer that a mantis has grabbed. It's pretty disturbing, isn't it, SusanLouise? Wow.

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Susan Louise — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:20:36 GMT

@GingerPeach wrote:
You're right, @Susan Louise . Sadly, I forgot about that.

One article I read is that this practice is increasing due to humans' tendency to both attract hummingbirds with feeders and then releasing mantises for insect control.

I guess we all know that nature is all too often best left alone. Not that I'm perfect, but I no longer feed hummingbirds but instead grow salvia and other flowers that they really like. I hope I never find a hummer that a mantis has grabbed. It's pretty disturbing, isn't it, SusanLouise? Wow.

@GingerPeach Insects are very intelligent and for the most part we don't give them enough credit. Of coarse it is just their instinct, but even so. About once or twice during each Fall migration period we even have to remove them from Hummingbird feeders. They will stay perched and stalk waiting for a victim...for lunch or dinner that is.

I have been trying to search my pic files on the laptop because I know I have taken a pic of two of them on a feeder, but having difficulty locating the pics. I don't remember what folder they are in...

If I find one I'll post a pic.

As for you growing Salvias, you are growing plants to attract hummingbirds. Salvias are one of their favorites

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Carmie — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:42:52 GMT

When I was a young girl, I saw these on a forsythia bush. I cut a few branches and brought them indoors to force the blooms. I didn't know what the egg cases were, but though they were interesting.

Imagine my surprise when we got up on Sunday morning and the praying Mantis eggs hatched. There were thousands of them all over the kitchen. Some even got into my sister's coconut cake. We had to vacuum them up as fast as we could.

Never again will I ever bring one indoors.

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fthunt — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:40:28 GMT

Interesting..........well I learned something new today. But....re: hummingbirds - do the praying mantis eat/destroy hummer's eggs or what? Hummers are fast - can't imagine any 'bug' catching one.

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Susan Louise — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:58:13 GMT

@fthunt wrote:
Interesting..........well I learned something new today. But....re: hummingbirds - do the praying mantis eat/destroy hummer's eggs or what? Hummers are fast - can't imagine any 'bug' catching one.

@fthunt @GingerPeach Just google "praying manthis eats hummingbird". You will see an image.

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GingerPeach — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 01:00:50 GMT

@Susan Louise wrote:
@fthunt wrote:
Interesting..........well I learned something new today. But....re: hummingbirds - do the praying mantis eat/destroy hummer's eggs or what? Hummers are fast - can't imagine any 'bug' catching one.

@fthunt @GingerPeach Just google "praying manthis eats hummingbird". You will see an image.

Be ready to cover your eyes, @fthunt

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Susan Louise — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 01:20:02 GMT

@GingerPeach wrote:
@Susan Louise wrote:
@fthunt wrote:
Interesting..........well I learned something new today. But....re: hummingbirds - do the praying mantis eat/destroy hummer's eggs or what? Hummers are fast - can't imagine any 'bug' catching one.

@fthunt @GingerPeach Just google "praying manthis eats hummingbird". You will see an image.
Be ready to cover your eyes, @fthunt

@GingerPeach Good suggestion, but it does help prove what I've been saying and saves me from searching for our pics...LOL

Every aspect of nature is driven by survival mode

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ValuSkr — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 01:29:38 GMT

I'd heard about hummers and praying mantises (mantii? lol) but saw it for myself five years ago. My hummingbird feeder was hanging under the deck, only six to eight inches from a vertical deck support. A praying mantis was on the deck support next to the feeder, just hanging out and waiting for its prey. It was creepy; the mantis could stand on the vertical support and reach out with its two front legs. It didn't catch anything while I was watching, and I would have intervened if things got dicey.

At any rate, here are some rather graphic photos from birdwatchersdigest. View at your own risk. The author, from West Chester, PA, describes how the praying mantis attacks the hummer.

https://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/bwdsite/learn/hummingbirds/mantis-hummer.php?sc=migrate

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fthunt — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 01:37:33 GMT

I'll take your word for it.

Learned something new...............

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JustJazzmom — Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:00:55 GMT

The egg cases look whitish when freshly laid and they oxidize to a light tan/brownish color over time.

As one of you found out, they hatch in response to temperature! EEK!

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MoonieBaby — Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:04:02 GMT

oh my GOD - you're so LUCKY!

I absolutely adore them.

A a kindergarten kid our teacher hatched a mantis egg sack and had all 20 liddle-kiddles sit out back on the grass and told us not to move - the egg sack was hatching and she wanted us to see the wonder of this WONDEFUL bug.

These lil brown critters about the size of a nickle walked all over the kids. We behaved like statues as not to harm them.

She read us several "stories" from the encyclopedia about them as we watched them.

To this day when one is in my yard (concrete yard in Philly rowhouse) I place 'im on one of my plants.

I really do love them and thank her for the experience 52 years later for allowing me to not be scared of these marvelous creatures.

Thanks for sharing Homegirl!!!!

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GingerPeach — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:03:17 GMT

That's an unforgettable memory, @MoonieBaby

YOU were lucky to have a great teacher!