topic Re: Climbing Roses in Garden

Climbing Roses

Lilysmom — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 15:13:22 GMT

@JustJazzmom, I am looking for a hardy climbing rose that will eventually help cover a huge granite rock at my lakeside. I have already planted a climbing hydrangea on one side.

Do you have any comments about this? I am looking for hardier than zone 5. Any other thoughts? I am not going to do ivy as I have seen it take over a friend's yard and it is an endless battle for them to get rid of it.

I don't have one rose bush on my property. Strange isn't it? I think I avoided them because I thought they were thorny and fussy. Maybe it's time to start. LM

PS, the boulder is at 20' high.

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Junker2327 — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:17:02 GMT

I am in zone 5 or 6. I have grown NEW DAWN and WHITE DAWN climbers for years and they out grow any other climber that I know of. But...... they are only pale pink or white.

Beckyblu

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ValuSkr — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:01:02 GMT

There are some climbing varieties of the Knock-Out Rose. But they seem to be hardy only to Zone 5. On the other hand, Knock-Outs in general are practically indestructible. I've seen them on fences, not sure if they'd climb on a large rock.

Good thought to avoid English Ivy!

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sweetee2 — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:14:10 GMT

If your in a hurry, I'd buy Cottage Farm Rose booster. They revived my 30 years old roses and they grue like weeds.

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151949 — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:42:34 GMT

Climbing roses are my favorite in a cottage garden. I would love to have a trellis with a climbing rose on each side at our camp where you walk down a path to enter our site from the road.

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Lilysmom — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:11:18 GMT

Thank you all for your feedback. I do have an ulterior motive. This huge rock causes water to runoff in large volumes during heavy rain. As a partial solution, I have planted wild irises below that grew in very wet land. That stops some of the runoff. The Irises are doing very well there.

There used to be some soil and scrub growth on the top of this rock but it got removed because it was so ugly. Sadly, that soil had a job which was to absorb some of the water. Now I am seeking alternate solutions. My climbing hydrangea took very well and is climbing the trellis that leads to the rock.

I will try to post some photos but must look for them as my computer is new. LM

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Lilysmom — Tue, 21 Feb 2017 09:23:24 GMT

Here is my rock of Gilbraltor...

Here is my rock of Gilbraltor... @JustJazzmom, @ValuSkr @Junker2327 @151949 @sweetee2

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pattypeep — Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:17:11 GMT

@Lilysmom

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ValuSkr — Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:39:12 GMT

@Lilysmom I love it! Nice the way you've planted around it. I see no need to grow a plant on it - rocks in gardens are beautiful. If the rock has nooks and crannies, you may be able to get some sedum started.

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Lilysmom — Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:27:47 GMT

@ValuSkr, I am looking for a way to slow down the waterfall from this rock in a heavy rain. That is why I want have a climbing plant. I agree that the granite rock looks lovely on it's own but it is a water issue I am trying to deal with. We are very fortunate to have a lot of large granite rocks in our area. I have learned to incorporate them into my garden plan. Much easier to work with Mother Nature than not!!! LM

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Lilysmom — Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:25:53 GMT

@ValuSkr, if I could get up on that rock, I would love to plant some sedum. It is a great idea but the rock is way too tall. I am pretty sure 20' is a conservative estimate, probably more like 25-30. After just recovering from a broken foot, I am loath to do that😩. LM

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stets — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 14:34:51 GMT

Daylillies might work to stem erosion at the base, too. Not sure, though. I agree with others that the rock provides nice visual interest. Rocks belong in Nature, so it might be good to get comfy with them. If you look at Japanese gardens, they build their garden scape around rocks and stones. This rock is your friend. You have done a wonderful job softening its environment. Love your other features, too. Happy gardening.

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Lilysmom — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:35:42 GMT

@stets, do you think lilies could survive in such a wet location? The irises that thrive here came from a wetland area and love the water.

I do love the rocks. They are a major part of our landscape. I am not trying to hide them but trying to staunch the rapid flow of water in heavy rains. That is why I want something that will climb the rock. LM

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JustJazzmom — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 21:17:12 GMT

@Lilysmom wrote:
@stets, do you think lilies could survive in such a wet location? The irises that thrive here came from a wetland area and love the water.

I do love the rocks. They are a major part of our landscape. I am not trying to hide them but trying to staunch the rapid flow of water in heavy rains. That is why I want something that will climb the rock. LM

You may have to see how wet the soil gets or remains after any rains. I like the using adapted to wet soil plants so maybe googling wetland type plants might expand your choices.

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ValuSkr — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 22:58:40 GMT

@Lilysmom I wonder if these "groundcover roses" that Phillip presented today would work. They're hardy through zone 4. Phillip said they send out runners; I don't know if that's above ground or below, or if they'd climb onto something. They'd certainly trail over the rock, if you wanted them to.

M26370 Groundcover Roses

It would be nice to know the actual name of this rose; I doubt "groundcover rose" is it.

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Lilysmom — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:26:03 GMT

@ValuSkr, I really like those. Love the yellow color although if I was looking for strong contrast the purple is probably better. I am in Canada so I will probably visit a nursery where I know the nurseryman. He is very good with indigenous plants.

@JustJazzmom, the ground in front of the rock is very wet but the ground on either side is dry. I put wild Irises in the wet spot and they are thriving. I put a climbing hydrangea on one side and it is beginning it's climb up a trellis. Eventually, I am hoping it will eventually find the rock. I have some fine netting to help it climb. I would like to put a climbing rose on the other side. LM

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mousiegirl — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 01:36:44 GMT

@ValuSkr wrote:
@Lilysmom I wonder if these "groundcover roses" that Phillip presented today would work. They're hardy through zone 4. Phillip said they send out runners; I don't know if that's above ground or below, or if they'd climb onto something. They'd certainly trail over the rock, if you wanted them to.

M26370 Groundcover Roses

It would be nice to know the actual name of this rose; I doubt "groundcover rose" is it.

@ValuSkr @Lilysmom I have these roses in lavender, and they root in the ground, only one foot high, so unless your rock is small, and I think you are speaking of the enormouse rock you have, , these roses would not do the trick.

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JustJazzmom — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:37:14 GMT

I just read the fine print on both the golden & lavender and these are mini or miniature roses. Sending out runners? I think he meant the canes or stems are long. And if so, you can peg the canes along the ground so you get blooms on the canes.

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ValuSkr — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 03:12:18 GMT

He did say they "send out runners." Strange for roses, I thought. That's why I wish Q would give the actual plant names, so we can look them up online.

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JustJazzmom — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:31:29 GMT

@ValuSkr wrote:
He did say they "send out runners." Strange for roses, I thought. That's why I wish Q would give the actual plant names, so we can look them up online.

Runners can be interpreted in 2 ways -- above or below ground. I think of them as both depending on the plant. Runners underground for strawberries/invasive bamboo. Runners above ground for groundcover or low landscape roses.