topic Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins? in WEN

Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

HarwichHelen — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:40:45 GMT

I love the idea of Wen and the scents, but when I add a bit of CC as a leave-in, or add any other products like styling cream, my hair looks dull and dry, never shiny. I know I'm rinsing out all the CC when I wash. If I use no leave-ins at all, my hair does look shiny. My hair is extremely fine and shoulder length. Has anyone else found the same thing, especially with fine hair?

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

lrmuffin — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:51:38 GMT

Are you adding the leave in to soaking wet hair? In the beginning, I didn’t do that, so my results weren’t great.

My hair became dry with 613 styling creme , just like the CC. When I changed to a seasonal styling creme, I had good results.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

HarwichHelen — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:10:43 GMT

Yes, my hair is soaking, dripping wet when I add the CC as a leave-in. I also find that the mousse is sticky, and even the RTM feels a little sticky to me, although I use it anyway because I love the scents. And I only use the seasonals.

I notice that when I see the Wen girls in other presentations (after Chaz is gone), often their hair doesn't look especially shiny or moisturized. So I wish I could be there to see exactly what he uses on them for the Wen shows, especially Kate, who has fine hair too.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

rochelleS — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:19:05 GMT

@HarwichHelen I'm sure others will offer their thoughts and opinions but why not just call the salon too? Possibly you may not be using enough leave in product was my initial thought...are you air or blow drying?

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

HarwichHelen — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:19:17 GMT

I should add though that I love the oils, and my favorite trick is to add several drops of oil to the RTM. Just be sure to shake it well before you spray since the oil will always separate and float to the top. There's nothing like oil to add shine, especially to dry ends.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

HarwichHelen — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:21:51 GMT

I rarely go to a salon...except for the occasional trim. When I tried to add more product, as Chaz recommends, my hair got duller. I always air dry, don't own a blower. I think maybe my hair is just too fine to tolerate adding anything.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

geezerette — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:23:12 GMT

I’m sure I’ll be the lone exception to reply this way, but except for the Replenishing Treatment Mist—which I love—I don’t use any leave-ins. I didn’t find much difference in appearance or performance using or not. I also didn’t care for the feel of my hair with all that stuff left on. And my hair took a lot longer to dry with the extra products.

Yes, I used them correctly. And I tried several different formulas. I just tried the CC as a leave-in again after I heard Chaz going on and on about it this visit. Nope. Still don’t like it.

However, I don’t “style” my hair. I stick it all up on my head and the only other product I use is the Volumizing Treatment Spray on dry hair instead of hair spray.

I think you should use any product the way it works for you and however you’re happy with it.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

millieshops — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:23:36 GMT

LOng before there was WEN, my hair always looked better without any leave-ins. Even my favorite stylist never tried to sell me leave-in products becasue he felt the fewer products he used the better my hair looked.

I still occasionally use the replenishing spray on days I don't cleanse, but virtually no other leave-ins.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

geezerette — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:25:30 GMT

@HarwichHelen wrote:
I rarely go to a salon...except for the occasional trim. When I tried to add more product, as Chaz recommends, my hair got duller. I always air dry, don't own a blower. I think maybe my hair is just too fine to tolerate adding anything.

@HarwichHelen

I think @rochelleS meant why don’t you call Chaz’ WEN salon? He is always saying if you have any questions or problems to call him.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

HarwichHelen — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:33:16 GMT

Thanks, geezerette, it's a good idea to contact the WEN salon. And thank you for your reply about not using other product except the RTM...I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one!

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

geezerette — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:43:31 GMT

@HarwichHelen wrote:
Thanks, geezerette, it's a good idea to contact the WEN salon. And thank you for your reply about not using other product except the RTM...I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one!

@HarwichHelen

Don’t give me the credit for that suggestion—it was @rochelleS. I didn’t even think of that!🤗😁

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

HarwichHelen — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:11:42 GMT

Thanks for your reply! I think I get caught up in the marketing sometimes... I'm sure the extra Wen products work well for lots of people, but I remember when Wen first started and CC was all there was...

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

MalteseMomma — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:52:01 GMT

@HarwichHelen wrote:
Thanks for your reply! I think I get caught up in the marketing sometimes... I'm sure the extra Wen products work well for lots of people, but I remember when Wen first started and CC was all there was...

@HarwichHelen

... and I remember when Chas said WEN was ALL that we ever needed and we can throw away all those shelves of products lining our bathroom walls.We only need WEN conditioner!!

I think of that everytime I buy or watch Chaz selling a leave in product!!!!

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

World Traveler — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:59:37 GMT

It took a long time for me to get into the habit of leave-in. I didn't see the point. But I kept being told I need to do that. Now it is just second nature to add it, and I find that my hair air-dries without any fizziness or fly-aways. It really is better for my fine hair if I add it.

I keep a 16-ounce bottle of Winter White Forest in the shower for my leave-in and pump out just a little bit for my very short hair, no matter what other scent I used for my second cleanse.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

Bhvbum — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:42:26 GMT

After about 10 years and trying many of the different WEN Formulas, I gave up! My hair always looked frazzled but this was so expensive I was determined to finish everyone I tried before I moved onto the next WEN Formula.My hair is dyed about every five weeks and is fine and thin.

About two years ago I started the curly girl method, and my hair has never looked better. You only clean with a conditioner, and there are some very specific rules but the pay off is spectacular. Even my hairdresser asks me every time to tell her exactly what I’m doing. Google it, and look at the before and after pictures.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

untitled — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:58:13 GMT

well really Chaz is not asking one to buy any additional product you just are using the same CC. The styling cream - is a heat protectant - the oil is to treat the scalp. So choose whatever you want or nothing at all.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

vermint — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:16:25 GMT

@HarwichHelen While I do use mousse & styling creme, adding the CC back as a leave-in has never been my "thing". Combined with the other products it was just too much, even for my thick hair!

If I'm not going anywhere, though, I will add some CC as a leave-in, just for the extra conditioning. On those days, I don't use any other products...and it's still "too much", but I like the conditioning benefits.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

lynne6was7 — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:58:28 GMT

I have fine hair and have found that my hair does better using a few sprays of RTM on my soaking wet hair as a leave-in, rather than CC. I also use styling creme (tea tree) because I blow dry, and mousse (319). Once my hair is dry and styled, I very lightly spray the crown with VTS (sweet almond) for hold.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

77yangya — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 19:12:22 GMT

@World Traveler wrote:
It took a long time for me to get into the habit of leave-in. I didn't see the point. But I kept being told I need to do that. Now it is just second nature to add it, and I find that my hair air-dries without any fizziness or fly-aways. It really is better for my fine hair if I add it.

I keep a 16-ounce bottle of Winter White Forest in the shower for my leave-in and pump out just a little bit for my very short hair, no matter what other scent I used for my second cleanse.

Me too, World Traveler! I always put in leave in, mousse and styling creme. I found that if I let my hair air out around an hour after my shower, hey that rhymes! oh boy...LOL anyway, I found that if I do that, then I blow dry, it only takes around ten minutes to dry it. I used to rough dry then go in with the round brush. Chaz says frizz is caused by what we're doing to our hair and I'm inclined to seriously believe that. My hair will go WILD if I don't control it so I blow dry but I use warm and cold air never hot. My hair is starting to go past my shoulders so it would take half hour but doing it after it just stayed in the air it only took ten minutes. My fingers could actually distinguish the very damp hair from the blow dried hair that way too which I always tried to do and never could. The leave in stuff creates that bounce and shine. My hair bounces from just riding in the car. DEEP luster too. Did you hear that caller named, Beth? She was a riot! She told Chaz that anyone that does not like Wen is not using it right and she, herself said at first she was not using it right. It took me a while too. I feel leave in stuff is essential. I just use whatever I cleansed with that day. Sometimes I mix in 613 and use that as my leave in. World Traveler, have you noticed Katies hair? She's the one that's the school teacher. She has long blonde hair. Around a year or so ago, I always thought, wow, I'm not too crazy about her ends but her hair is just okay. Enter Bella Cleansing Conditioner and Indigo. HER HAIR BLOSSOMED LIKE CRAZY! Now, I'm not a fan of blonde hair, I prefer dark hair but her texture is beyond amazing. It's like large strips of satin cloth and did it grow FAST.

Re: Hair looks better without any leave-ins?

qtrmoonlady1 — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:07:21 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be the lone exception to reply this way, but except for the Replenishing Treatment Mist—which I love—I don’t use any leave-ins. I didn’t find much difference in appearance or performance using or not. I also didn’t care for the feel of my hair with all that stuff left on. And my hair took a lot longer to dry with the extra products.

Yes, I used them correctly. And I tried several different formulas. I just tried the CC as a leave-in again after I heard Chaz going on and on about it this visit. Nope. Still don’t like it.

However, I don’t “style” my hair. I stick it all up on my head and the only other product I use is the Volumizing Treatment Spray on dry hair instead of hair spray.

I think you should use any product the way it works for you and however you’re happy with it.

@geezerette I also find that my hair takes much longer to dry when I use the CC as a leave-in. Eventually it turns out nice, but I'm pressed for time in the morning and blowdryng takes forever with the leave-in. I usually give up and have to leave the house with damp hair (not good in the winter). The other morning I also added the mousse - that just made things worse. Next time I wash my hair, I'm foregoing the leave-in. I have no problem with just the styling cream or just the mousse. I agree, however Wen (or any product) makes you happy is how you should use it.