topic Re: Balls vs. Pumps in WEN

Balls vs. Pumps

SurferWife — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:51:31 GMT

I wonder why Chaz changed from number of pumps to golf balls. For me, it's easier to measure # of pumps rather than golf balls since ball size is more about perception, not as precise as counting pumps. What about y'all? Do you go by golf balls or # of pumps? I'm a pump kind of girl.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

Arianny — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:52:36 GMT

Pumps for me....

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

hopi — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:52:47 GMT

Balls

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

77yangya — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:12:40 GMT

Hi @SurferWife, I usually would count but since Chaz began suggesting golf ball sizes, I did that too. I mostly count though because my hair grows so daggone fast so if I don't add a few more pumps, my ends get too dry, so, yeah, I mostly count. LOL!!

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

Lucky Duck — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:37:02 GMT

When I started using Wen, I used the pump a couple times. I found out how much cleanser/conditioner I needed, removed the pump and never looked back. I keep my Wen upside down so it dispenses easily. I don't like using a pump.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

RipleyGirl — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:15:09 GMT

Balls for me and I apologize for giggling at this conversation

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

jpie — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:09:06 GMT

I prefer pumps for more accuracy. If I put too many "pumps" into the palm of my hand, the CC ends up sliding off of my hand and onto the shower floor. (No bueno!)

Plus, part of the wonderful Wen experience is counting out the pumps: one, two, three, or two, four, six (for the 32 oz size). Yep, I'm a pump kind of Wenner!

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

quadmimi — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:20:14 GMT

I do pumps, but into my "whipped up wen" container that I add water too..(thanks @x Hedge)...

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

geezerette — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:24:24 GMT

Neither, really. I also have gotten so that I can judge by how much I have in my hand. I usually use the same three or four formulas and know how much of each I need.

I’m pretty sure the golf ball analogy came about from the fact that we now have several different bottle sizes, and so the pump sizes are different too, which, of course, means that a different amount of product comes out of each size. It’s easier for Chaz to get across to new users how much to use talking size rather than having to explain how many pumps of each size bottle to use.

I’ve heard so many people calling in wondering how much CC to use, and all I can assume is that they weren’t paying attention to the presentation when he would explain the number of pumps depends on the size of the bottle!

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

ugabugabooooo — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 21:14:51 GMT

I use the "balls" method! LOL Have to laugh at this. It was diffucult for me to remember how many pumps because i had different size bottles and even the pumps on the 32 oz's would dispense different amounts.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

SurferWife — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 21:26:42 GMT

@RipleyGirl...after I posted this, I looked back at it and thought it might get removed. Yes, it's a giggly topic!

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

x Hedge — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 21:33:00 GMT

Oh BALLS!!
I dont even know my correct number of pumps for any size/type except the original 16oz Boston bottles. While the OCD compels me to count as I pump, I'm really just eyeballing the total amount, so I really measure by the approximate golf ball.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

VaBelle35 — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 21:37:27 GMT

I have some 16 and some 32 oz bottles and my hair is a little longer than JRT's and a little shorter than Jill's, so I think I do 7 pumps of the 32 oz and 14 of the 16 oz for each cleanse.

But, like someone else said, I sort of know by looking at it if it's the right amount.

I need the pumps for when I go to the salon. I need to give them a number and I usually round up 4 because I'm not sure if they know not to count the half pumps and the pumps that have mostly air as the product moves around when I travel with it.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

geezerette — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 21:40:28 GMT

wrote:
Oh BALLS!!
I dont even know my correct number of pumps for any size/type except the original 16oz Boston bottles. While the OCD compels me to count as I pump, I'm really just eyeballing the total amount, so I really measure by the approximate golf ball.

@x Hedge

😆😆😆

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

x Hedge — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 22:09:12 GMT

The classics and the seasonals are in Boston bottles. All Chaz had to explain was number of pumps from a 16oz vs a 32oz bottle.

When Chaz added the 613 and the Restoratives in cylinder bottles the confusion began. The 16oz Boston and the 16oz cylinder take two different pumps which dispense dissimilar amounts from the same size bottle. (Geezerette, different pump for each bottle size AND each bottle type)
So he could no longer say 'Use x number of pumps from a 16oz bottle'. Besides, the haters would always jeer at the emphasis on the 'number' of pumps.

I wondered how he settled on golf balls. I can picture a ping pong ball, but I'm only guessing a golf ball is about the same size.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

riley1 — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 22:50:02 GMT

@x Hedge - Thank you for the explanation. I never realized there were two different bottles/pumps. I must not be very observant, lol.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

jaxs mom — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:16:38 GMT

Maybe because of all the whining from the non Wen users about how it's just too much work for their poor feeble arms to pump 20 times or whatever?

Of course it's also possible it's because how many pumps one needed was dependent on the bottle/pump size.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

World Traveler — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 19:40:05 GMT

I got really tired of people at work asking me how many pumps to use and me asking them, well, what size bottle are you using? Sixteen pumps of one size versus sixteen pumps of a larger size bottle doesn't always work out. So I always tell everyone to use golf ball size amounts, the number of which depends upon how long their hair is.

For me, I just know what looks/feels right in my hand. Don't use any of the pumps; and I don't judge by size of a golf ball anymore.

Also, I find that the different formulas have something to do with how much I use. Not sure anyone finds that it differs for them too......different amounts depending upon the formula. I use more of the tea tree, but don't have to use as much of the white citrus. I use less of the vanilla mint to get the job done than I do of the ginger pumpkin.Go figure! ha!

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

jaxs mom — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 20:10:17 GMT

@World Traveler Yes, some formulas are more frothy on their own and so I don't need as much or need to dilute as much with water.

Re: Balls vs. Pumps

RipleyGirl — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 20:19:32 GMT

I actually eyeball it as well, but the visual of a golf ball does help me. If I'm washing my hair first thing in the morning, I'm sometimes not coherent enough to count into the double digits