topic Re: CHECK OUT "NEW" HAIR CARE FINDS ON THE Q in WEN

CHECK OUT "NEW" HAIR CARE FINDS ON THE Q

Drythe — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:51:33 GMT

Hello fellow Wenners!

If you go up and click on the large red Q at the logo, then scroll down a bit, you will see a box which says 'explore these new hair care finds' or something similar. Click on it.

It is very interesting - see WHO IS THERE, AND WHO IS NOT.

Could not be MORE obvious.

Makes me angry and sad.

Wonder just how much money our very talented magician has pulled in for them over the years?

Sign me disgusted. Especially knowing that one of the listed was cited for using a known carcinogen. Were there consequences?

Re: CHECK OUT "NEW" HAIR CARE FINDS ON THE Q

ChynnaBlue — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:10:51 GMT

That page is for new hair care brands and products. WEN isn't a new brand to the Q and the newest WEN products are skincare and fragrances, not hair care items, so they wouldn't belong there anyway. WEN had a lot of new sets and items released in December, but there are no new WEN items this month.

WEN took a big hit from the lawsuit and the publicity and QVC's a business that has to react to that. We'll have to see where it goes from here.

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sailor_moon — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:21:59 GMT

@Drythe, I am more concerned about that particular brand being on Logical Harmony's cruelty free list.

Logical Harmony is against the use of lanolin, and guess who uses lanolin, so how did he get on their cruelty free list?

Re: CHECK OUT "NEW" HAIR CARE FINDS ON THE Q

Drythe — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:45:01 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
That page is for new hair care brands and products. WEN isn't a new brand to the Q and the newest WEN products are skincare and fragrances, not hair care items, so they wouldn't belong there anyway. WEN had a lot of new sets and items released in December, but there are no new WEN items this month.

WEN took a big hit from the lawsuit and the publicity and QVC's a business that has to react to that. We'll have to see where it goes from here.

@ChynnaBlue

I think you missed my point.

To your first point, WEN Light treatment spray is new.

To your other point, Nick is also not a new vendor to the Q.

Not wanting to, or going to fuss, just stating the facts, and inequities as I see them.

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Drythe — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:30:00 GMT

@sailor_moon wrote:
@Drythe, I am more concerned about that particular brand being on Logical Harmony's cruelty free list.
Logical Harmony is against the use of lanolin, and guess who uses lanolin, so how did he get on their cruelty free list?

@sailor_moon

I asked the same queston. He's NOT on leaping bunny, or PETA.
No answer was forthcoming.

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sailor_moon — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:36:57 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
@sailor_moon wrote:
@Drythe, I am more concerned about that particular brand being on Logical Harmony's cruelty free list.
Logical Harmony is against the use of lanolin, and guess who uses lanolin, so how did he get on their cruelty free list?

@sailor_moon

I asked the same queston. He's NOT on leaping bunny, or PETA.
No answer was forth coming.

@Drythe, I couldn't find him on leaping bunny or PETA, either; imo he shouldn't even be on Logical Harmony because some of his products contain lanolin.

Re: CHECK OUT "NEW" HAIR CARE FINDS ON THE Q

Drythe — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:42:21 GMT

@sailor_moon

One green planet has some interesting comments on lanolin (wax) and how it is harvested. You should read.

As to your other point ITA, but there doesn't seem to be any interested in the vality or lack of it.

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RipleyGirl — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:26:33 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
That page is for new hair care brands and products. WEN isn't a new brand to the Q and the newest WEN products are skincare and fragrances, not hair care items, so they wouldn't belong there anyway. WEN had a lot of new sets and items released in December, but there are no new WEN items this month.

WEN took a big hit from the lawsuit and the publicity and QVC's a business that has to react to that. We'll have to see where it goes from here.

I think a lot of us are pretty anxious right now and it can be difficult to see other products being pushed when a favorite isn't. Many would probably say they've felt the same way I imagine, but that doesn't make it any easier, does it.

On the Logical Harmony topic @sailor_moon @Drythe, did you email the woman that runs it. I haven't been on her site in awhile, so I can't remember her parameters for getting on the good list. I'm not going to read the lanolin bit. I'm having a hard enough time afer seeing the clip from the filming of the dog movie. I'm glad I didn't want to see it, although originally it was because I figured I'd blubber through the whole thing **she types as she shoves her dog's head out of the way of the keyboard**

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sailor_moon — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:37:42 GMT

@RipleyGirl wrote:
@ChynnaBlue wrote:
That page is for new hair care brands and products. WEN isn't a new brand to the Q and the newest WEN products are skincare and fragrances, not hair care items, so they wouldn't belong there anyway. WEN had a lot of new sets and items released in December, but there are no new WEN items this month.

WEN took a big hit from the lawsuit and the publicity and QVC's a business that has to react to that. We'll have to see where it goes from here.

I think a lot of us are pretty anxious right now and it can be difficult to see other products being pushed when a favorite isn't. Many would probably say they've felt the same way I imagine, but that doesn't make it any easier, does it.

On the Logical Harmony topic @sailor_moon @Drythe, did you email the woman that runs it. I haven't been on her site in awhile, so I can't remember her parameters for getting on the good list. I'm not going to read the lanolin bit. I'm having a hard enough time afer seeing the clip from the filming of the dog movie. I'm glad I didn't want to see it, although originally it was because I figured I'd blubber through the whole thing **she types as she shoves her dog's head out of the way of the keyboard**

@RipleyGirl, her parameters are confusing. Her definition of cruelty free means no animal testing, but the ingredients, used by a company, don't have to be cruelty free.

So basically, a company can make her list, even if they use an ingredient that's not cruelty free, as long as their finished product(s) is not tested on animals.

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Drythe — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 02:17:13 GMT

@sailor_moon wrote:
@RipleyGirl wrote:
@ChynnaBlue wrote:
That page is for new hair care brands and products. WEN isn't a new brand to the Q and the newest WEN products are skincare and fragrances, not hair care items, so they wouldn't belong there anyway. WEN had a lot of new sets and items released in December, but there are no new WEN items this month.

WEN took a big hit from the lawsuit and the publicity and QVC's a business that has to react to that. We'll have to see where it goes from here.

I think a lot of us are pretty anxious right now and it can be difficult to see other products being pushed when a favorite isn't. Many would probably say they've felt the same way I imagine, but that doesn't make it any easier, does it.

On the Logical Harmony topic @sailor_moon @Drythe, did you email the woman that runs it. I haven't been on her site in awhile, so I can't remember her parameters for getting on the good list. I'm not going to read the lanolin bit. I'm having a hard enough time afer seeing the clip from the filming of the dog movie. I'm glad I didn't want to see it, although originally it was because I figured I'd blubber through the whole thing **she types as she shoves her dog's head out of the way of the keyboard**
@RipleyGirl, her parameters are confusing. Her definition of cruelty free means no animal testing, but the ingredients, used by a company, don't have to be cruelty free.
So basically, a company can make her list, even if they use an ingredient that's not cruelty free, as long as their finished product(s) is not tested on animals.

@RipleyGirl

Heads Up This is is a long post, but it is both factual and heart felt.

Logical Harmony only speaks to horizontal certifications, meaning no Cruelty testing was done across the company, or in house, which you probably know. So there can be any ingredient no matter how cruel or how much in the product deck as long as it was NOT made or tested IN the company. Whatever is bought from outside the actual plant (in this case the salon) gets a free pass. ~ As an animal lover, this type of Cruelty Free Certification means nothing to me, zip, nada, I think it a disgrace to say a product is Cruelty Free when it can actually contain anything tested on animals as long as it was not made, or added in the owner of the products 'plant'.

Leaping Bunny & PETA test products vertically, meaning nothing contained, used IN the product can have been tested on animals NO MATTER where, or who the product came from, or where it was put it in. That means ALL ingredients bought from outside the company & EVERY ingredient in the bottle is researched and must be, MUST be Cruelty Free. ~ As Animal lover this is what I want to know. When I use a product I want to know it is absolutely, totally, 100% Cruelty Free! Gaining this level of Certification is a long, costly process, but some owners believe in being truly Cruelty Free and for them it's worth it. Thank Goodness for them.

*note: I do not agree with everything PETA, does, or espouses. However, in the matter of standards for Cruelty Free Certification I think they are spot on.

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ANewHue — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 01:59:05 GMT

@Drythe. Also there is a red carpet show from LA on the 28th. You know where my thoughts went when I saw that. It will be interesting to see, if I watch. I don't think the pick for host is appropriate sorry but she will never be a "Lisa"

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ChynnaBlue — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:23:10 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
@ChynnaBlue wrote:
That page is for new hair care brands and products. WEN isn't a new brand to the Q and the newest WEN products are skincare and fragrances, not hair care items, so they wouldn't belong there anyway. WEN had a lot of new sets and items released in December, but there are no new WEN items this month.

WEN took a big hit from the lawsuit and the publicity and QVC's a business that has to react to that. We'll have to see where it goes from here.

@ChynnaBlue

I think you missed my point.

To your first point, WEN Light treatment spray is new.

To your other point, Nick is also not a new vendor to the Q.

Not wanting to, or going to fuss, just stating the facts, and inequities as I see them.

Nick is not a new vendor, but all the Nick products listed on the page are tagged as "NEW" in the system. If you run a search with "Wen +new" in the system, nothing comes up, so nothing appears on the new hair care products page. WEN Light Treatment Spray is not available in the system, so it doesn't appear on the page. The computer is pulling hair care items tagged with the word NEW.

It's computer coding, not a plot.

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BrattyOne2 — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 06:27:37 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
Hello fellow Wenners!

If you go up and click on the large red Q at the logo, then scroll down a bit, you will see a box which says 'explore these new hair care finds' or something similar. Click on it.

It is very interesting - see WHO IS THERE, AND WHO IS NOT.

Could not be MORE obvious.

Makes me angry and sad.

Wonder just how much money our very talented magician has pulled in for them over the years?

Sign me disgusted. Especially knowing that one of the listed was cited for using a known carcinogen. Were there consequences?

@Drythe

Completely agree with you. On the homepage it's "New Haircare Brands & Arrivals", all the brands are new to the Q except for one brand who's been at the Q for years, years and more years. The items they're listing as new from this brand were on air during December. To me, they're no more new than WEN Light NBT. Plus, Chaz had the seasonal edp's that were new with many new fragrances in the sets.

I do feel they've been pushing two brands a lot more than WEN. Which is very sad to me. Regardless of the lawsuit, WEN still won as the best "shampoo" last year. I'm tired of seeing the other brands with their fried hair and pushing their hair products and styling products.

I CAN NOT WAIT FOR TEAM WEN TO ARRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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x Hedge — Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:54:48 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
Hello fellow Wenners!

If you go up and click on the large red Q at the logo, then scroll down a bit, you will see a box which says 'explore these new hair care finds' or something similar. Click on it.

It is very interesting - see WHO IS THERE, AND WHO IS NOT.

Could not be MORE obvious.

Makes me angry and sad.

Wonder just how much money our very talented magician has pulled in for them over the years?

Sign me disgusted. Especially knowing that one of the listed was cited for using a known carcinogen. Were there consequences?

@Drythe,

I think since starting BeautyIQ , QVC has had a lot of requests for more new beauty products and more product variety from the audience they're trying to cultivate. I think this atention grabber was aimed at the QVC audience that feels they have already seen all the beauty products QVC has to offer, and this list of NEW come-ons is just a response to that. BeautyIQ still devotes pre-scheduled weekly airtime to WEN'sDay.

p.s. Yes, I'd like a 24/7 WEN channel too.

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77yangya — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 11:53:11 GMT

Well, it's just that it isn't among those large pictures of other items but if you navigate to the link beauty and click Wen is there along with all the other beauty brands. It's nice you want to stick up for Chaz. The other poster is right in that Wen is really not new to the Q.

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77yangya — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:04:29 GMT

Sorry to post twice but something struck me, I don't think that bogus law suit really means anything because Wen sells big time. We all know and they all know the REAL grudge is against Guthy Renker who is located in El Sigundo, CA which I think is the low end of CA. I think alot of people had a grudge against them because of their awful business practices and one of them is out sourcing to down right bullying. They took it out on Chaz and Wen. We all know and they all know there is nothing in Wen that harmed anyone. I saw a video on Google with this girl named Selena Esparza. She's in what looks like a garage and washing her hair in a sink that I would not wash my shoes in and on the phone telling Guthy Renker that she has Wen in her hair and it's falling out. Notice that the camera does not show the top of her head, it only shows some hair hanging down. She's crying the blues, boo hoo and at finish she holds up a section of hair all matted. To me it honestly looked like a wig. There were NO bald spots at all, in fact her head had so much hair, it was enough for two people. We all know Wen does not make hair knotted or matted, it does just the opposite, it makes hair soft, silky and tangle free. Sorry, had to vent.

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qtrmoonlady1 — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 13:01:07 GMT

@77yangya wrote:
Sorry to post twice but something struck me, I don't think that bogus law suit really means anything because Wen sells big time. We all know and they all know the REAL grudge is against Guthy Renker who is located in El Sigundo, CA which I think is the low end of CA. I think alot of people had a grudge against them because of their awful business practices and one of them is out sourcing to down right bullying. They took it out on Chaz and Wen. We all know and they all know there is nothing in Wen that harmed anyone. I saw a video on Google with this girl named Selena Esparza. She's in what looks like a garage and washing her hair in a sink that I would not wash my shoes in and on the phone telling Guthy Renker that she has Wen in her hair and it's falling out. Notice that the camera does not show the top of her head, it only shows some hair hanging down. She's crying the blues, boo hoo and at finish she holds up a section of hair all matted. To me it honestly looked like a wig. There were NO bald spots at all, in fact her head had so much hair, it was enough for two people. We all know Wen does not make hair knotted or matted, it does just the opposite, it makes hair soft, silky and tangle free. Sorry, had to vent.

@77yangyaYes, I saw the same video - Utter nonsense! The hair in the sink looks like extensions strategically placed and the video never shows the hair actually coming off her head (probably, of course, because it DIDN'T really come off her head). I'm sure GR let her have her WEN for free when she complained. What a crock!

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RipleyGirl — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:15:50 GMT

@77yangya wrote:
Sorry to post twice but something struck me, I don't think that bogus law suit really means anything because Wen sells big time. We all know and they all know the REAL grudge is against Guthy Renker who is located in El Sigundo, CA which I think is the low end of CA. I think alot of people had a grudge against them because of their awful business practices and one of them is out sourcing to down right bullying. They took it out on Chaz and Wen.

I've had the same thought about GR. I would say the one unfortunate thing with Wen is the GR connection. People don't realize there's a difference between Chaz' salon and GR's products. I do want to add that there's not a product out there that hasn't caused someone to have an allergic reaction, so I'm not discounting that in some cases.

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x Hedge — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:33:06 GMT

Quite right @RipleyGirl. I never bought Wen from Guthy Renker and didn't realize they distributed a different formula of SAM until I read it in a post HERE, in the last month or two.

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sailor_moon — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:50:00 GMT

@qtrmoonlady1 wrote:
@77yangya wrote:
Sorry to post twice but something struck me, I don't think that bogus law suit really means anything because Wen sells big time. We all know and they all know the REAL grudge is against Guthy Renker who is located in El Sigundo, CA which I think is the low end of CA. I think alot of people had a grudge against them because of their awful business practices and one of them is out sourcing to down right bullying. They took it out on Chaz and Wen. We all know and they all know there is nothing in Wen that harmed anyone. I saw a video on Google with this girl named Selena Esparza. She's in what looks like a garage and washing her hair in a sink that I would not wash my shoes in and on the phone telling Guthy Renker that she has Wen in her hair and it's falling out. Notice that the camera does not show the top of her head, it only shows some hair hanging down. She's crying the blues, boo hoo and at finish she holds up a section of hair all matted. To me it honestly looked like a wig. There were NO bald spots at all, in fact her head had so much hair, it was enough for two people. We all know Wen does not make hair knotted or matted, it does just the opposite, it makes hair soft, silky and tangle free. Sorry, had to vent.
@77yangyaYes, I saw the same video - Utter nonsense! The hair in the sink looks like extensions strategically placed and the video never shows the hair actually coming off her head (probably, of course, because it DIDN'T really come off her head). I'm sure GR let her have her WEN for free when she complained. What a crock!

@77yangya @qtrmoonlady1, I noticed two things about that "bogus" video.

1) she started to detangle her hair from the roots down, instead of starting at the ends; or maybe she just stuck a comb in her tangled hair, and never tried to get the tangles out.

2) showing the shed hairs in the sink (without counting them, individually) was misleading, because her hair's really long; so when one strand of hair coils and overlaps on itself, it can look like multiple strands.