topic Re: Mousse question in WEN

Mousse question

jaxs mom — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:24:17 GMT

Other than the extra aminos in the 613 mousse, are the other ones all the same formula other than scent? I can't remember anymore, even though I'm sure it's been discussed. I'm mostly looking for something to set and hold my wurls.

Re: Mousse question

Lipstickdiva — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:35:55 GMT

I don't know the answer to your question but I was watching some of the Saturday show with Jill. I am dipping my toe into the WEN waters so to speak.

I was shocked when Chaz was showing that model with the super short blonde hair and said he would put 10 pumps of mousse in her hair. My hair is chin length and I only put about 2 pumps of the mousse I'm using now in my hair.

Why so much? If he would do 10 pumps in her hair, mine would need about 15 I would think. I have a small size of the mousse that I got in a discovery kit but I've not used it yet. I did order the replenishing mist in the jasmine because it was an awesome deal but it was on waitlist.

Sorry to hijack your thread.

Re: Mousse question

jaxs mom — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:37:53 GMT

No it's fine. I think the amount you use might depend on what you want it to do.

Re: Mousse question

Lipstickdiva — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:34:01 GMT

Thanks.

I decided to give the mousse a try this morning. It's the lavendar formula. I think I did do about 10 pumps. I was very skeptical because this mousse is very thin. The mousse I use now has a lot of body to it.

Anyhow, color me happy because my fine hair has tons of volume!! I love it.

Re: Mousse question

Nicole WI — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:29:05 GMT

Hi @jaxs mom!

I am not certain this is a big deal, but the MIF and BGT mousse contain the 4 tea complex and bamboo water. They are not exactly the same, but for my hair my favorite mousse is 6 13 or MIF. 😊 I have tried all of the seasonal mousse formulas that have come out. Some work better than others for me. SHP and FVWP are two great seasonal mousses in my opinion (based solely on performance)! 👍🏻

Re: Mousse question

jaxs mom — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:16:26 GMT

Thanks @Nicole WI I'm not sure if I should avoid the BGT one because my hair doesn't like the CC. I'm not sure why I have issues with it, if it's the bamboo water or something else.

Re: Mousse question

Hilary77 — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:56:26 GMT

I think the classic mousses are all pretty much the same. The bamboo and MIF mousses have different ingredients. However, I did notice that the bamboo and MIF mousses do not have aminos. This makes me happy!! I just ordered the MIF mousse. I have to be careful not to use too many aminos, or my hair gets dry.

Re: Mousse question

jaxs mom — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:00:22 GMT

Thanks @Hilary77 I hadn't checked the ingredient deck yet but I thought the BGT and MIF might have the extra aminos like the CC versions do. good to know they don't. I also have to be careful of too many aminos and protein.

Re: Mousse question

Hilary77 — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:11:25 GMT

@jaxs mom wrote:
Thanks @Hilary77 I hadn't checked the ingredient deck yet but I thought the BGT and MIF might have the extra aminos like the CC versions do. good to know they don't. I also have to be careful of too many aminos and protein.

I wish Chaz would consider making more of the seasonal products without the amino acids. I know some people need the extra protein, but some don't. I can use aminos occasionally, but not all the time.

Re: Mousse question

ChynnaBlue — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:19:34 GMT

@jaxs mom wrote:
Other than the extra aminos in the 613 mousse, are the other ones all the same formula other than scent? I can't remember anymore, even though I'm sure it's been discussed. I'm mostly looking for something to set and hold my wurls.

Have you used any of the WEN Mousses before, @jaxs mom? Obviously, everyone is going to get different results, but I found that they did very little for my curls, especially on days where it's humid.

I had to use a LOT of the mousse to get any definition and hold - like 15-20 pumps for my hair. (My hair is thin and touches my bra strap in the back.) The formula is liquid, like water, and it foams up when you pump, so even though I used a lot, the product didn't get used up super fast, it was just a pain to use 15 pumps. He showed Maria, who has shoulder length hair, and she had 30 pumps of mousse in her hair and usually uses 15. So be ready to use way more than you think you should. The more I used, the better it would work.

The 613 mousse did leave my hair glossier than my other styling products, but that was the only real positive experience. This morning I pulled out a Mandarin Italian Fig Mousse I got from a TSV and used it over my HG curly product, Curl Keeper. It gave me no real definition and little hold. (The Curl Keeper prevents frizz even in 90% humidity, so I'm good there!)

Give it a try, but I recommend passing on the WEN styling products and using curly-specific products.

Let us know how it works for you!

Re: Mousse question

jaxs mom — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:53:57 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@jaxs mom wrote:
Other than the extra aminos in the 613 mousse, are the other ones all the same formula other than scent? I can't remember anymore, even though I'm sure it's been discussed. I'm mostly looking for something to set and hold my wurls.
Have you used any of the WEN Mousses before, @jaxs mom? Obviously, everyone is going to get different results, but I found that they did very little for my curls, especially on days where it's humid.

I had to use a LOT of the mousse to get any definition and hold - like 15-20 pumps for my hair. (My hair is thin and touches my bra strap in the back.) The formula is liquid, like water, and it foams up when you pump, so even though I used a lot, the product didn't get used up super fast, it was just a pain to use 15 pumps. He showed Maria, who has shoulder length hair, and she had 30 pumps of mousse in her hair and usually uses 15. So be ready to use way more than you think you should. The more I used, the better it would work.

The 613 mousse did leave my hair glossier than my other styling products, but that was the only real positive experience. This morning I pulled out a Mandarin Italian Fig Mousse I got from a TSV and used it over my HG curly product, Curl Keeper. It gave me no real definition and little hold. (The Curl Keeper prevents frizz even in 90% humidity, so I'm good there!)

Give it a try, but I recommend passing on the WEN styling products and using curly-specific products.

Let us know how it works for you!

@ChynnaBlue I haven't tried any of them yet. My only experience with mousse was back when my hair was really short. I've been playing around with gel trying to get more definition and hold for my wurls so it's less poofy when it dries. My hair is the same length as yours now.

I'm not even sure how much gel to use. My hair is medium texture and pretty thick. So far I've tried 1 quarters worth of gel and 2 quarters worth. One quarter is definitely not enough. I think two probably wasn't enough either. I'm getting good hold and wave at my roots with the larger amount but I still lack some definition on some of my length. I think it might be that I need to work on distributing it better on my ends. I've been applying it bend over with my hair hanging down and cupping it in. I was afraid to use too much though.

Re: Mousse question

Nicole WI — Wed, 12 Oct 2016 01:40:39 GMT

@jaxs mom wrote:
Thanks @Nicole WI I'm not sure if I should avoid the BGT one because my hair doesn't like the CC. I'm not sure why I have issues with it, if it's the bamboo water or something else.

Do you know how some people mention your hair can get too much of 6 13 CC? I can see how that could happen and I think to some extent I find it true with BGT and MIF CC too. I was going along fine with my MIF mousse and all the sudden I just knew I needed to change it up for a bit. I switched to 6 13 mousse and then gave the FVWP a try as well. I find as many times as I try different mousse formulas, I always come back to 6 13.

Of course everyone's hair can react differently to different formulas of CC, mousse, or any product so this is just my experience over the last... wow, I guess seven years this coming December!

Re: Mousse question

ChynnaBlue — Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:13:58 GMT

@jaxs mom wrote:
@ChynnaBlue I haven't tried any of them yet. My only experience with mousse was back when my hair was really short. I've been playing around with gel trying to get more definition and hold for my wurls so it's less poofy when it dries. My hair is the same length as yours now.

I'm not even sure how much gel to use. My hair is medium texture and pretty thick. So far I've tried 1 quarters worth of gel and 2 quarters worth. One quarter is definitely not enough. I think two probably wasn't enough either. I'm getting good hold and wave at my roots with the larger amount but I still lack some definition on some of my length. I think it might be that I need to work on distributing it better on my ends. I've been applying it bend over with my hair hanging down and cupping it in. I was afraid to use too much though.

@jaxs mom, gel is always tricky for me, too. How much I need depends on the exact gel I'm using, how much humidity is in the air, how long my hair is, and whether or not it's a Tuesday. I'm kidding about that last one, but that's how tricky I think it can be getting used to a new gel.

When I use gel, I put it on my soaking wet hair and then blot dry with a t-shirt. That helps ease some of the crunch you can get with gel. I only learned this recently, so I'll share in case you hadn't heard this yet. Gel forms a "cast" around the hair when it's drying and while it's doing that, you shouldn't touch it. I air dry, so I put it in and arrange my curls, then leave it to dry completely before I touch it again. Once it dries, I scrunch out any crunch and break the cast, which then gives me the hold without that crunch.