topic Re: Wen Is Going NOWHERE BUT TO STAY in WEN

Wen Is Going NOWHERE BUT TO STAY

77yangya — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:04:07 GMT

If everyone would just ignore all this nonsense. Wen is patented, global and climbing. don't you all see? In this world of the "almighty buck" Chaz is now a force to reckon with and they cannot stand it and talk is mightier than the sword. Just ignore and stop even talking about this nonsense and it will go away. I don't see Chaz very worried about it. STOP IT and it will go away. NO Wen product has been pulled as these idiots are posting. Stop sitting in a corner and letting them scare you all. Boy they got you all coming and going. ohhhhh oooohhh, brother! Chaz did nothing amiss. They must love the power they have getting everyone on the run. Well, I use my own mind that God gave geese!

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Cookie2025 — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:49:53 GMT

I do not know of anyone, personally, who has changed their minds about Wen.

Some people may remember when the auto industry launched a huge campaign against the Suzuki Samuri. There where claims the Samuri was easily flipped. At the time there where whispers and later proven Ford was behind the slander. Suzuki was taking their business.

I owned one of those baby Jeeps - the Samuri - and it was nice. I also owned a Jeep at the same time. I trusted the Samuri more than the Jeep. It sat lower to the ground. Suzuki evenutally pulled the vehicle. It was one of the funniest vehicle I owned.

I had a patch of hair fall our when I used Wen. It was also discovered I had Hypothyroidism. I had hair breakage when I used Pantene. eryone's experience is different. My Mother swears by Pantene (ewww).

Chaz was on TV yesterday. I couldn't listen to what he had to say. I had to change the channel. I felt so bad for him.

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January121 — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:43:20 GMT

@77yangya wrote:
If everyone would just ignore all this nonsense. Wen is patented, global and climbing. don't you all see? In this world of the "almighty buck" Chaz is now a force to reckon with and they cannot stand it and talk is mightier than the sword. Just ignore and stop even talking about this nonsense and it will go away. I don't see Chaz very worried about it. STOP IT and it will go away. NO Wen product has been pulled as these idiots are posting. Stop sitting in a corner and letting them scare you all. Boy they got you all coming and going. ohhhhh oooohhh, brother! Chaz did nothing amiss. They must love the power they have getting everyone on the run. Well, I use my own mind that God gave geese!

I don't think ignoring this issue is the way to go .... anyone who uses Wen should read everything they can about it and then make an intelligent decision based on their own experience with the product .... everybody is different & what works for some does not work for others ..... if you use Wen & love it then by all means continue to do so .... ignoring something is never a good thing especially when it comes to your health.

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Desertdi — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:49:31 GMT

I get a rash from peaches..........never thought of suing orchard owners

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Zita — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:47:22 GMT

I can't believe the fanaticism and irrational replies about Wen. So, it's a class action suit of more than 200 people. They can't all be kooks or have health issues that influence the use of this product.

Fine, if you like it, but the fact remains that Chaz Dean and his company will have to mount a defense -- and perhaps admit that some ingredients can indeed cause bad effects. In which case, it's a case of Caveat Emptor.

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77yangya — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:53:08 GMT

I mean really now. Ignoring garbage rumours IS the best way to go. I mean we're talking something to cleanse hair with not something for medicinal use. In the beginning when it was first introduced, years ago, all Chaz said was if you know how to use shampoo then you can use Wen. It's that simple but like always you have some that have to bash and make a big deal out of nothing. Anyone that doesn't like a product just don't use it. I don't believe Wen can make anyone's hair fall out either. Now, like any product someone may have an allergic reaction to an ingredient but if that happens all that is needed is to stop the usage and it will go away. For instance. I used anti bacterial liquid hand soap on mucus membrane area on me in the shower and I suffered a nasty reaction. It was a dumb thing to do but I just don't do that anymore and it went away. I did not know it was strictly for hands. Anyway, the 613 body treatment is so amazing that my skin is better now than when I was in my teens and I'm 60. LIke the other poster said. If they had a reaction to peaches they're not gonna sue an orchard or something like that and I agree with that. Should I have sued the liquid hand soap company? Well I'm not gonna. I just know not to use it. It's really lousy how people have to down others that are successful.

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RipleyGirl — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:22:01 GMT

I'm just so baffled that people don't see how using Wen is pretty much the same as using a water-soluble cleansing cream/lotion on your face. There's the added difficulty of removing the product through your hair, but that just takes some practice and a bit of (gentle) elbow grease. If I used lather on my face to wash every day, my skin would be pulling apart at the seams, no matter how gentle the soapy cleanser. My scalp's the same. I'm also baffled that people don't read up on the ingredients if they're so concerned. There's plenty of good info that proves there's nothing that outlandish in Wen. IMHO, it's just a well-formulated product. i can see people not liking the menthol and/or scents, but to say there's some magically malicious ingredient in Wen(?!). I imagine if it was so horrific Paula Begoun's crew would be on the warpath after it, but they're not.

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oceanbreezy — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 01:44:56 GMT

There aren't any harsh detergent chemicals in the Wen cleansing conditioner that would cause anyone's hair to fall out leaving bald spots. There are reasons too numerous to mention that could result in hair loss, health, diet, hormones, stress, illness, and many other hair products. I used a popular, well known hair shampoo bought from another shopping channel that left my hair dry, brittle and a tangled mess. Even the companion hair conditioner that suppose to soften my hair just made things worse. It was either scissor cut my hair or pull my hair out to remove the tangles. I loss a lot of hair. This shampoo even left my hands dry, irritated and peeling. I simply decided not to order or use the product again, not sue the company.

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KingstonsMom — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:45:38 GMT

@77yangya wrote:
If everyone would just ignore all this nonsense. Wen is patented, global and climbing. don't you all see? In this world of the "almighty buck" Chaz is now a force to reckon with and they cannot stand it and talk is mightier than the sword. Just ignore and stop even talking about this nonsense and it will go away. I don't see Chaz very worried about it. STOP IT and it will go away. NO Wen product has been pulled as these idiots are posting. Stop sitting in a corner and letting them scare you all. Boy they got you all coming and going. ohhhhh oooohhh, brother! Chaz did nothing amiss. They must love the power they have getting everyone on the run. Well, I use my own mind that God gave geese!

Wow, I must be lucky because God gave me a much bigger mind than what he gave to geese.

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willomenia — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:16:54 GMT

Touche!

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Cakie — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:51:29 GMT

For anyone who is researching this topic, here is a link to an article from EWG (Environmental Working Group.org.) http://www.ewg.org/enviroblog/2015/12/wen-hair-care-products-linked-hair-loss

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Ladyzep — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:50:25 GMT

This is all well and good for you to champion Wen as you are - maybe you do not have any hair loss - YET. But for those thousands of women out there who have all had hair thinning and hair loss from this product, they have been irreparably (not to mention emotionally) damaged. And I'm sure they would all say the same thing; BEWARE. And keep an eye on your hair if you are using Wen!! Educate yourself to BOTH sides of this issue! Google "Wen and hair loss" and start reading and then make your own intelligent decision!

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77yangya — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:27:39 GMT

Ooooooh. I'm really scared!

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bruingirl — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:30:41 GMT

DTTB

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sonechko — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:36:51 GMT

What's the meaning of "DTTB"? TIA!

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TKeys — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:51:28 GMT

I don't think sweeping statements like this help anyone. It is a product. There is a law suit. The companies and plaintiffs will need to use the legal system to sort it out. People should read labels and do research and decide for themselves what they want to use (or not). There are chemicals in Wen. There are chemicals in most hair and skin products. Some people have reactions to them. Some of those people complain. Whether or not they have a viable legal claim is something the system will figure it out. That will cost time and money. It is unlikely that the product will be recalled as a result of this suit. It is possible that Chaz Dean will agree to remove one or more chemicals from the ingredient list (or may do it to prevent future complaints). That will be a business decision. The person likely to make the most money off this suit is the attorney. Announcing that the product is here to stay doesn't accomplish anything. Yes, it is annoying that people keep posting that there is a law suit and they lost hair. Okay. I am sure that they want to spread the word. If there is a problem for some people, getting all the facts and identifying the issue is important.

The law suit is public information. As an informed consumer, I checked out all of that before I decided whether or not to buy. The law suit will likely deter some people. It won't affect others.

And again, patents are not an indication of quality or safety on any product; they simply give an inventor who created something novel the right to be the sole producer/distributor of the product for a period of time. A patent is hard to get because you have to prove that what you made is original, yours, and non-obvious. And for the record, in my cursory search of the US Patent database, I don't see any actual patents listed for Wen or Chaz Dean. I think he just has trademarks...which is protection for your business name/logo.

I am sure Chaz Dean's company appreciates all the people that continue to support the products. But the people who are concerned have just as much a right to post their concerns, too, and decide not to use the products. Probably best to let them say what they want to say, and keep doing your thing. No need to engage or argue about it - there will eventually be a resolution that is posted. I think it is important to be informed and to keep an eye out for possible problems. I read the side effects on medication bottles, too, and the warnings before trying new adventure places, etc.

Just my $.02 for what it is worth.

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FleaMktQn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:01:14 GMT

@sonechko wrote:
What's the meaning of "DTTB"? TIA!

@sonechko It means "Don't take the bait"

but I know you so much fun with the haters you may not be able to stop yourself

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sonechko — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:06:38 GMT

I wish that few of us Wenners would stop creating threads that serve as a "bait" to discuss Wen and all that law suit and balding from Wen hoop-la.

This sends a "special invitation" to Wen bashing crowd, or so called "concerned" individuals. They seem to just love to squeeze their "message" anywhere they can, and even on the Wen Board.

Some of these "do-gooders" truly believe in carp that this product is for sure, and in fact causing problems, and they may be "sincere" in their hate for it. This fact is NOT proven and remains to be proven yet.

But in reality, there are a few of those, very persistent individuals, who are simply "trolling" here and everywhere, creating negative publicity effect, to bent general public opinion, trying to help the ongoing legal suit, or maybe help some competitive brands to sell more of their brand products, while they think it is a good time to kick and bash Wen, because now is a "window of opportunity".

So, the conclusion is - always watch your own body/skin/hair reaction to ANY new product you are using, since we all may react differently to anything in any product,

and also beware of trolls, who may have their own agenda for posting. You never know.

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quadmimi — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:08:45 GMT

@FleaMktQn wrote:
@sonechko wrote:
What's the meaning of "DTTB"? TIA!
@sonechko It means "Don't take the bait"

but I know you so much fun with the haters you may not be able to stop yourself

Yep just let them flap on while we all fling our Wen air...

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TKeys — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:09:32 GMT

Well said .