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Smart Meters

Nightowlz — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:14:15 GMT

If you have one you might want to read your own meter so you can check it against your bill.

A lot of people set theirs up on monthly average & pay the same amount for their bill each month. We don't do that.

I noticed all summer my gas bill was $42 which I thought was high so I read our meter to check against our bill. It was off & to the Gas Companies advantage.

Right now 2-11 my meter is reading 5475. Their meter reading on 1-10 was 6187. I did not read our meter until 2-8 at which time it was 5466.

Gas Company just came out to check my reading plus their hand reader. He said he had to adjust it because it was not reading my meter correct. DUH!!!

He said if it's still off they will have to replace our meter which they already did not to long ago when the other one had a clog in the line.

Now I will keep track of it plus my water & electric.

Smart Meters are so Smart they rip you off. LOL!!!

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:22:46 GMT

@Nightowlz On the wellness forum I started a thread on smart meters recently. I chose to OPT OUT and keep my analog meter.... everyone has that choice, but you need to ask! Most people do not even know about the switch until it is done.

https://community.qvc.com/t5/Wellness/The-new-Smart-Electrical-Meters-Do-you-have-one-on-your-home/m-p/5191792/highlight/true#M152602

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:29:54 GMT

@Nightowlz This too!

https://blog.solidsignal.com/tutorials/your-smart-meter-might-be-wasting-your-money/

Re: Smart Meters

geezerette — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:30:17 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
@Nightowlz On the wellness forum I started a thread on smart meters recently. I chose to OPT OUT and keep my analog meter.... everyone has that choice, but you need to ask! Most people do not even know about the switch until it is done.

https://community.qvc.com/t5/Wellness/The-new-Smart-Electrical-Meters-Do-you-have-one-on-your-home/m-p/5191792/highlight/true#M152602

@SeaMaiden

Do you get charged extra for opting out of the smart meter? We just got a letter that our electric meters will soon be replaced with smart meters. They said you could opt out and keep your analog meter—for a price. $65 up front charge, then $26 each month to continue to have a meter reader come to the house.

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:35:21 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
@Nightowlz On the wellness forum I started a thread on smart meters recently. I chose to OPT OUT and keep my analog meter.... everyone has that choice, but you need to ask! Most people do not even know about the switch until it is done.

https://community.qvc.com/t5/Wellness/The-new-Smart-Electrical-Meters-Do-you-have-one-on-your-home/m-p/5191792/highlight/true#M152602
@SeaMaiden

Do you get charged extra for opting out of the smart meter? We just got a letter that our electric meters will soon be replaced with smart meters. They said you could opt out and keep your analog meter—for a price. $65 up front charge, then $26 each month to continue to have a meter reader come to the house.

@geezerette I will pay whatever the cost NOT to have this meter....it is for health reasons as well as over charges. That is just my feelings. I can adjust my budget easy to accommodate....🙂

Re: Smart Meters

Financialgrl — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:46:18 GMT

Ours was only for the electric meter but we never had the option of replacing or keeping old. We got the letter that all meters WERE being changed and they wanted us to know their might be techs on our property. Now that I see this, I'm gonna check it frequently - even tho my electric bills aren't exhorbitant but I assume that's cuz this is a mostly natural gas home.

Re: Smart Meters

Allegheny — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:01:54 GMT

I have a newer electric meter, it was replaced a few years back when the old dial meter stopped working. I was the one who reported it to them. It took them three weeks to come out. Anyway I don't think what we now have is a smart meter as we got a card last week that they will be out to replace it.

We cannot opt out. But I am going to start reading it and checking against my monthly bill. We haven't heard anything from the gas company yet.

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:04:47 GMT

@Financialgrl wrote:
Ours was only for the electric meter but we never had the option of replacing or keeping old. We got the letter that all meters WERE being changed and they wanted us to know their might be techs on our property. Now that I see this, I'm gonna check it frequently - even tho my electric bills aren't exhorbitant but I assume that's cuz this is a mostly natural gas home.

@Financialgrl that is what they do.....most people do not know they DO have a choice not to get a smart meter. They do the change rather sneaky.... when they were doing the meter changes in my neighborhood, I kept an eye out for the person doing the change out. I had in advance called the power company to say I opted out....but I also let the installer know too in person.

You still can Replace the smart meter back with analog meter if you decide to...you will have to pay an electrian to do it. Many people who had adverse health issues crop up after the new smart meters were installed have done this.... or have had over charges with the new meters. I suppose most people will not bother reading up on them, and just got the smart meter.... that is what the power company want the "HERD" to do.

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:46:55 GMT

@Allegheny wrote:
I have a newer electric meter, it was replaced a few years back when the old dial meter stopped working. I was the one who reported it to them. It took them three weeks to come out. Anyway I don't think what we now have is a smart meter as we got a card last week that they will be out to replace it.

We cannot opt out. But I am going to start reading it and checking against my monthly bill. We haven't heard anything from the gas company yet.

@Allegheny You must persist. You can opt out! Read this!

http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/action-now/

Re: Smart Meters

IamDoodles — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:00:30 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
@Allegheny wrote:
I have a newer electric meter, it was replaced a few years back when the old dial meter stopped working. I was the one who reported it to them. It took them three weeks to come out. Anyway I don't think what we now have is a smart meter as we got a card last week that they will be out to replace it.

We cannot opt out. But I am going to start reading it and checking against my monthly bill. We haven't heard anything from the gas company yet.
@Allegheny You must persist. You can opt out! Read this!

http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/action-now/

ABSOLUTELY stay away from smart meters. Agenda 2035

Re: Smart Meters

Love4cats — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:29:11 GMT

My husband was diagnosed early last year with Marginal Zone Lymphoma. His Oncologist told us that we should have the Smart Meter removed and have the old Analog Meter put back on, which our electric company did. These Smart Meter's can cause different health issue's.

Re: Smart Meters

Lucky Charm — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:32:26 GMT

Is it okay if the smart meter is outside your home?

Re: Smart Meters

Nightowlz — Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:17:33 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
@Nightowlz On the wellness forum I started a thread on smart meters recently. I chose to OPT OUT and keep my analog meter.... everyone has that choice, but you need to ask! Most people do not even know about the switch until it is done.

https://community.qvc.com/t5/Wellness/The-new-Smart-Electrical-Meters-Do-you-have-one-on-your-home/m-p/5191792/highlight/true#M152602
@SeaMaiden

Do you get charged extra for opting out of the smart meter? We just got a letter that our electric meters will soon be replaced with smart meters. They said you could opt out and keep your analog meter—for a price. $65 up front charge, then $26 each month to continue to have a meter reader come to the house.

@SeaMaiden

We were not given an option. The Electric company showed up one day took off the old electric meter so they could install the new.

The water company dug up their old meter & installed one that's read by solar power. The water meter has a picture of a faucet on it. If there's a drip coming from the faucet that means you have a leak.

I think they did our gas when a line was clogged so they had to do some work. DH was in the shower & all the sudden no hot water. LOL!!!

Re: Smart Meters

Nightowlz — Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:22:38 GMT

@Lucky Charm wrote:
Is it okay if the smart meter is outside your home?

@Lucky Charm

I'm not sure but I doubt it. I would have to do some research.

If they are like the DECT phones people have in their homes today it omits radiation 24/7. Older phone only omitted radiation while the phone was in use. Not these new ones. Plus it can go through the walls of your home in through the walls of your neighbors homes. I read it's like having a mini cell tower in your home. Not good for it to be sitting on your night stand next to your head while you are sleeping.

We can't get away from all the EMF's.

Re: Smart Meters

carmandees — Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:59:57 GMT

interesting reading. Thanks for the thread @Nightowlz.

Re: Smart Meters

missy1 — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:31:52 GMT

They made us have them .Not a good thing, Read up on them, and you will see.

Re: Smart Meters

missy1 — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:31:11 GMT

@Lucky Charm wrote:
Is it okay if the smart meter is outside your home?

Ours are outside. Who would want that in their home?

Re: Smart Meters

missy1 — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:45:40 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
Is it okay if the smart meter is outside your home?
@Lucky Charm

I'm not sure but I doubt it. I would have to do some research.
If they are like the DECT phones people have in their homes today it omits radiation 24/7. Older phone only omitted radiation while the phone was in use. Not these new ones. Plus it can go through the walls of your home in through the walls of your neighbors homes. I read it's like having a mini cell tower in your home. Not good for it to be sitting on your night stand next to your head while you are sleeping.
We can't get away from all the EMF's.

Plus they can turn it off anytime. Allow only a certain amount of use. They know exactly what appliance uses what amount. That is why they have smart in the name.

They can make frequency sounds, only certain people can hear. They are like the 5G cell towers that are coming.

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:23:46 GMT

Here is another reason to not have smart meter put in especially if your home is older.

This is from my "next door" news feed. A neighbor having issues with the new smart meter in his older home( the age of most homes here where I live including my own) Glad I opted out.

New dIgital meter units
Early last week PSE came and swapped out our old analog electrical meter for a new digital one. Many of you have probably had this done. This morning we had what appeared to be a cascading electrical failure in our home. To make a long story short, a PSE serviceman came out, pulled the new meter and you can see in the attached picture we had a fried female connector. This is one of the two 120V lines that come into every home. The other line is fine. This means we have 110V power to most of our home but without both functional lines we have no 220V power to run our water heater, furnace, range, or dryer. Since it’s an all electric home we have no heat, hot water or range to heat water. Serviceman said that the problem is in the meter box, not the meter itself, so the problem is ours to resolve as it’s part of the home. I think PSE bears some responsibility since it’s been fine for 30+ years and would still be fine if they hadn’t installed the new meter in our 42 year old house. Has anyone else suffered a similar failure since they installed the new meters? If not, you will probably be good but there have been some issues with these. I purchased a new meter box and can install it myself, but it requires a permit and PSE to shut off power from the street. Anyone know an electrician who has experience with this?

Re: Smart Meters

SeaMaiden — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 20:50:49 GMT

And ANOTHER very recent update ( March 1st). ....customers in Iowa against the smart meter

https://ktvo.com/news/local/smart-meters-cause-concerns-utility-corporation-responds