topic Re: Question for Mods in Among Friends

Question for Mods

makeup addict — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:37:46 GMT

ive read Gloriajean's thread was closed since its religious. As many others have said, there is nothing in the standards that says we can't post about faith.

since you are removing threads that are deemed religious, you need to remove Kristne's blogs about the blessing of her adopted son, Dan Wheelers' blogs about his late wife Cakes and their strong faith, especially the emotional entry about her going Home to God; Jennifer Coffeys Mantras, Samdra Bennet's blog about being Married by Dan Hughes (since he's dressed as a man of the cloth) and there are probably many more blogs if I wanted to keep digging.

This is is not meant to be argumentative. I just want you to consider another perspective. I read those blogs and was especially moved by Dan Wheelers journey with his wife. I still read Lisa Mason's Facebook posts about their faith and how it's important to them. It's also important to the people who post here as well. They were a nice safe place for people to post as are many threads on this forum. But people asking for prayers and sharing positive messages is needed. It is a part of us who want to be there for people and lift them up instead of tearing them down.

You created a home for Gamers; maybe you can create a place for people of faith?

Re: Question for Mods

kjae — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:41:30 GMT

So beautifully stated and respectfully submitted... Okay, Mods, it's on you now to make an effort to understand and respect these points.

Re: Question for Mods

Apple Crisp — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:47:50 GMT

I totally agree with everything you stated so beautifully.

Re: Question for Mods

butterfly123 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:53:09 GMT

@makeup addict

Well written with respect.

As I understand the gamers section, you have to request to be added and it is not visible to others?

Re: Question for Mods

makeup addict — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:00:00 GMT

@butterfly123 hi, not sure how the gamers thing works since I'm not a gamer. There has to be a compromise. Yes this is a shopping site, but the most important shopping season is Christmas. Before Santa, there was a manger. Before the Easter bunny, there was a cross.

Passover, I believe is the most important day in the Jewish faith. All people of faith should be allowed to mention prayers and blessings. No one is trying to recruit anyone or talk trash people different faiths.

Re: Question for Mods

butterfly123 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:10:36 GMT

@makeup addict

Please look at my posts and you will see I am all for your idea.

The reason I brought up the gamers thread is because it is not visible to others.

I'm 100 percent behind your idea because it is the solution!

Much appreciation to you!

Re: Question for Mods

QVCkitty1 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:11:21 GMT

I just want to say that I'm not religious, and I have never read your posts. However it is everyone's free choice whether or not to read posts, and I don't think that you are being treated fairly. When they use religion to sell things, I guess that's all right.It's sad that something that provides comfort was taken away. No one was forced to read it.

Re: Question for Mods

Susan in California — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:26:41 GMT

I am not religious, and I feel it is fine for people to have a nice, safe place to communicate. I also loved Dan Wheeler's blogs about his wonderful wife.

I was moved by everything he shared.

I wish the moderators would be able to have a more open-minded, less reflexive, prospective.

Your opinion, @makeup addict, and @QVCkitty1 was well expressed.

I totally agree.

Re: Question for Mods

nana59 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:41:57 GMT

Quite a few hosts say, "I am blessed/you are blessed/we all are blessed." And Dan Wheeler ends his tv time with "God bless." So if the posters can't express their faith, then same should apply to hosts.........

Re: Question for Mods

kjae — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:58:39 GMT

I propose that the Q stop selling Christmas, Easter, and angel products in order to abide by their forum standard.

Re: Question for Mods

makeup addict — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:57:55 GMT

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this, all of you. I don't force my beliefs down people's throats and neither did these threads.

Faith is not a bad word. For me, it's what I turn to for strength and for peace. We need places that we can go to for strength and support.

Re: Question for Mods

makeup addict — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 03:02:08 GMT

@kjae wrote:
I propose that the Q stop selling Christmas, Easter, and angel products in order to abide by their forum standard.

@kjae No Christmas in July. I don't know; that might be a good thing! Lol

Re: Question for Mods

Bellabutterfly — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 03:20:56 GMT

Hi Makeup Addict...

Yes, I agree with you 100%.

Gloriajean was not hurting anyone...Those who did not like it did not have to even go onto this "Thread"!

However, those of us who felt blessed to be able to go to such a "Thread", feel very let down by you...QVC.

If QVC is going to interfer with our "Threads"...

Than QVC must STOP the "HOST's BLOGS" regarding "RELIGION" too.

QVC...Here are -2- "PERFECT EXAMPLE'S"...

Almost "EVERY HOST BLOG" refers to "RELIGION" in some way...

Yes, QVC this then must stop too!

Inspire Me (106 ITEMS)

My faith has carried me through so many dark times & constantly gives me comfort, purpose, and clarity. I love keeping inspirational items around to remind me that I'm not in charge, God's in control. If I put my faith in Him, everything will be fine.

by on

I have been blown away by, and so grateful for, your prayers these past few weeks for my family. My mom relishes in telling people that our family has a whole “prayer chain of QVC viewers” and it brings a choke to her throat and my dad’s to know they are being lifted up by countless beautiful loving strangers.

Re: Question for Mods

AuntG — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:58:35 GMT

OP stated it perfectly. Someone's spouse passes away and they ask for prayers. A host has a baby and they say they are thankful to God. Some posters talk about their faith in an agreeable manner, and QVC bans their discussion. Seriously?? My feeling is that if QVC is going to remove posts "deemed religious" than should not be so hypocritical as to shove Christmas at us for five months of the year in order to make money. I'm not one who boycotts companies to make a point, but I'm done shopping with QVC simply because of their hypocrisy. Purchased a lot of things since 1988 when I first got cable, but times have changed and there are many other companies who will gladly take my business.

Re: Question for Mods

Mimi 1883 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:59:49 GMT

@kjae wrote:
I propose that the Q stop selling Christmas, Easter, and angel products in order to abide by their forum standard.

It's NOT QVC's fault...It has nothing to do with Christian religions!

Re: Question for Mods

SharkE — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:06:08 GMT

I wish they would put all these type of threads over here in Among Friends lump them all in together. We got them scattered thru all the forums.

Religious, personal day to day business, pictures of animals, etc.

They need to really enforce the title of the thread to just that and not allow

off topic stuff to take over.

Re: Question for Mods

Kachina624 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:12:25 GMT

@makeup addict wrote:
ive read Gloriajean's thread was closed since its religious. As many others have said, there is nothing in the standards that says we can't post about faith.

since you are removing threads that are deemed religious, you need to remove Kristne's blogs about the blessing of her adopted son, Dan Wheelers' blogs about his late wife Cakes and their strong faith, especially the emotional entry about her going Home to God; Jennifer Coffeys Mantras, Samdra Bennet's blog about being Married by Dan Hughes (since he's dressed as a man of the cloth) and there are probably many more blogs if I wanted to keep digging.

This is is not meant to be argumentative. I just want you to consider another perspective. I read those blogs and was especially moved by Dan Wheelers journey with his wife. I still read Lisa Mason's Facebook posts about their faith and how it's important to them. It's also important to the people who post here as well. They were a nice safe place for people to post as are many threads on this forum. But people asking for prayers and sharing positive messages is needed. It is a part of us who want to be there for people and lift them up instead of tearing them down.

You created a home for Gamers; maybe you can create a place for people of faith?

@makeup addict I would be willing to bet there are hundreds of websites where people of faith can express themselves. This is a SHOPPING FORUM. There's a time and place for everything and religion has no place here.

Surely you can discern the difference between promoting a doctrine and reporting an event like a wedding where a clergyman officiated.

Lisa Mason's Facebook page has nothing to do with QVC. In fact, Facebook might be a good place for people to express their spirituality. Other groups have taken their discussions there. What QVC employees do and say is a personnel matter where the company will have to set policy. The board monitors have nothing to do with that.

The mods have said you can still offer and receive prayers if you wish. I don't think anyone objects to sharing a positive message as long as religion is not involved.

Re: Question for Mods

Moonchilde — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:36:29 GMT

@SharkE wrote:
I wish they would put all these type of threads over here in Among Friends lump them all in together. We got them scattered thru all the forums.
Religious, personal day to day business, pictures of animals, etc.

They need to really enforce the title of the thread to just that and not allow
off topic stuff to take over.

And therein lies one of the issues - religious discussion, cutting and pasting of religious messages and Bible verses, proselytizing, witnessing, whatever - injected into threads that had nothing to do with religion, and starting such threads in forums anywhere in the forums.

The actions of a relative few and the sense of entitlement of some, took things to the point where QVC made a decision. Did everyone who enjoyed the threads do this? No. But enough did that QVC apparently agreed/decided on this action. There more than likely would not have been as many complaints if any accommodation had been made by a few posters. But there are always a few for whom proving a point or being at the front of the confrontational march is most important.

I don't feel QVC made this decision quickly or lightly. It took them months to a year to come to this action.

Re: Question for Mods

HeresLucy — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:00:38 GMT

Ok. Going with your argument that religion has no place on a shopping forum. How about these forums, that in my opinion, also have no place.

Sports

TV and Movies

Book Club

Gamers

Pet Lovers

Mom to Mom

I'd be willing to bet there are 1000's of websites and 100's of facebook forums and pages where these folks can go and discuss their interests.

I call it like I see it. Ridiculous, huh?

Re: Question for Mods

nana59 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:08:15 GMT

Gloriajean's thread is already gone--but Dan Wheeler's post today mentioned "God" and "Heaven." When is Qvc going to make things right........